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Postby Neanderthaland » Sun Mar 17, 2019 2:17 pm

Australian rePublic wrote:
Hammer Britannia wrote:Doesn't the bible proclaim Yahweh lives in the sky?

Where does it say that? Also, the writters of the Bible (at least the NT) knew that the Earth were round, so I don't see how that would have been possible

Presumably somewhere in the Old Testament then. The number of references to the Earth being supported by pillars, and other textual clues indicate that much of the Old Testament supports a fairly common Mesopotamian understanding of the Earth as being suspended by pillars between primordial waters under a crystal (or possibly Bronze) dome of sky.
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Postby The New California Republic » Sun Mar 17, 2019 2:21 pm

Australian rePublic wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:

Evidence?

Evidence? You can look at the book that Washington Resistance Army mentioned. Also here:

Officially, Mount Olympus was the formal residence of essentially all of the gods, although this was meant more in a symbolic than literal sense.

https://study.com/academy/lesson/mount- ... ology.html
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Postby Australian rePublic » Sun Mar 17, 2019 3:00 pm

The New California Republic wrote:
Australian rePublic wrote:Evidence?

Evidence? You can look at the book that Washington Resistance Army mentioned. Also here:

Officially, Mount Olympus was the formal residence of essentially all of the gods, although this was meant more in a symbolic than literal sense.

https://study.com/academy/lesson/mount- ... ology.html

Why are you so quick to defend peganism, but as quick to bash Christianity?
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Postby The New California Republic » Sun Mar 17, 2019 3:04 pm

Australian rePublic wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:Evidence? You can look at the book that Washington Resistance Army mentioned. Also here:


Why are you so quick to defend peganism, but as quick to bash Christianity?

I'm not defending it, I'm just showing you that Mount Olympus in mythology is generally considered to be separate from the actual Mount Olympus.
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Postby Salus Maior » Sun Mar 17, 2019 3:07 pm

Hammer Britannia wrote:
Australian rePublic wrote:Where does it say that? Also, the writters of the Bible knew that the Earth were round, so I don't see how that would have been possible

It doesn't, I was strawmanning your religion just like you were ours.

Also, 1 Chronicles 16:30, Psalm 93:1, Psalm 96:10, Psalm 104:5. While it doesn't prove that they thought the Earth is flat, it does show that the bronze-aged barbarians of the Middle East weren't expert cosmologists either


Hey, civilization was built off of "bronze age barbarians". Including those ones in particular.

And I don't think when Paul said "the earth cannot be moved" I don't think he was referring to the earth revolving around the sun.
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Postby Farnhamia » Sun Mar 17, 2019 3:18 pm

Salus Maior wrote:
Hammer Britannia wrote:It doesn't, I was strawmanning your religion just like you were ours.

Also, 1 Chronicles 16:30, Psalm 93:1, Psalm 96:10, Psalm 104:5. While it doesn't prove that they thought the Earth is flat, it does show that the bronze-aged barbarians of the Middle East weren't expert cosmologists either


Hey, civilization was built off of "bronze age barbarians". Including those ones in particular.

And I don't think when Paul said "the earth cannot be moved" I don't think he was referring to the earth revolving around the sun.

He hadn't read his Archimedes, then, because more than 250 years before Paul, that man said (more or less), "Give me a place to stand and a lever and I will move the earth."
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Postby Korhal IVV » Sun Mar 17, 2019 3:22 pm

Hammer Britannia wrote:
Australian rePublic wrote:The core texts of Hellenic peganism state that the gods live on top of Mt. Olymous, right? Okay, let's fly to Greece then charter a helicopter...

Doesn't the bible proclaim Yahweh lives in the sky?

It is called a Hebrew figure of speech.
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Postby Salus Maior » Sun Mar 17, 2019 3:23 pm

Hammer Britannia wrote:
Australian rePublic wrote:The core texts of Hellenic peganism state that the gods live on top of Mt. Olymous, right? Okay, let's fly to Greece then charter a helicopter...

Doesn't the bible proclaim Yahweh lives in the sky?


I think they usually say the Heavens.
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Postby The Galactic Liberal Democracy » Sun Mar 17, 2019 3:24 pm

CrvenaParsa wrote:Because he is bigger than your god:


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Postby The New California Republic » Sun Mar 17, 2019 3:45 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Salus Maior wrote:
Hey, civilization was built off of "bronze age barbarians". Including those ones in particular.

And I don't think when Paul said "the earth cannot be moved" I don't think he was referring to the earth revolving around the sun.

He hadn't read his Archimedes, then, because more than 250 years before Paul, that man said (more or less), "Give me a place to stand and a lever and I will move the earth."

Someone on Quora said that said lever would actually need to be longer than the known Universe. Not sure how accurate that claim is though.
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Postby Farnhamia » Sun Mar 17, 2019 3:53 pm

The New California Republic wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:He hadn't read his Archimedes, then, because more than 250 years before Paul, that man said (more or less), "Give me a place to stand and a lever and I will move the earth."

Someone on Quora said that said lever would actually need to be longer than the known Universe. Not sure how accurate that claim is though.

There are formulas for figuring that out, so it could be right. They specified 100 pounds of force, which could easily be increased. Anyway, Archimedes tended to be a little ... enthusiastic. I mean, okay, you figured out how to tell if the crown was gold or an alloy, but seriously, dude, put some clothes on.
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Postby The New California Republic » Sun Mar 17, 2019 4:12 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:Someone on Quora said that said lever would actually need to be longer than the known Universe. Not sure how accurate that claim is though.

There are formulas for figuring that out, so it could be right. They specified 100 pounds of force, which could easily be increased. Anyway, Archimedes tended to be a little ... enthusiastic. I mean, okay, you figured out how to tell if the crown was gold or an alloy, but seriously, dude, put some clothes on.

I'd like to think his fellow Hellene Diogenes was discovering something profound every day, but I know that his behavior wasn't really down to a discovery as such, but rather acting as a mirror of society by being a troll.


Eternal Lotharia wrote:What separates my God from yours is that he's mine. I no share. :p

Have you created your own deity?
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Postby Australian rePublic » Mon Mar 18, 2019 1:46 am

Eternal Lotharia wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:


Have you created your own deity?

Nein.

Christian.

But I no share.

>: c

*Proceeds to hog the cross and Jesus*

That's okay. I can still have the Father and Holy Spirit
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Postby Korhal IVV » Mon Mar 18, 2019 1:49 am

Eternal Lotharia wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:


Have you created your own deity?

Nein.

Christian.

But I no share.

>: c

*Proceeds to hog the cross and Jesus*

*does nothing as God is omnipresent*
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Postby Australian rePublic » Mon Mar 18, 2019 2:01 am

Korhal IVV wrote:
Eternal Lotharia wrote:Nein.

Christian.

But I no share.

>: c

*Proceeds to hog the cross and Jesus*

*does nothing as God is omnipresent*

Image
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Postby The New California Republic » Mon Mar 18, 2019 3:39 am

Australian rePublic wrote:
Korhal IVV wrote:*does nothing as God is omnipresent*

Image

Sick burn.
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Postby Australian rePublic » Mon Mar 18, 2019 4:11 am

The New California Republic wrote:
Australian rePublic wrote:Image

Sick burn.

Cheers, I guess
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definition
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The Foxes Swamp wrote:definition

Hm? The definition of god? In what respects?
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The New California Republic wrote:
The Foxes Swamp wrote:definition

Hm? The definition of god? In what respects?



what is god?
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Postby Dogmeat » Mon Mar 18, 2019 10:24 am

The Foxes Swamp wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:Hm? The definition of god? In what respects?



what is god?

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Postby Kowani » Mon Mar 18, 2019 9:27 pm

Eternal Lotharia wrote:
Australian rePublic wrote:That's okay. I can still have the Father and Holy Spirit
**yanks them away from you whilst you're preoccupied by crusifixes**


Yeah, the chess playing grandpa who barely knows how to play chess and the holy spirit who thinks it's funny to throw eggs at everybody and fart.


I get the guy who makes free food.


Profit.

Not just free food, but free wine.
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Postby Lanorth » Mon Mar 18, 2019 9:31 pm

I don't believe in God. I am a Buddhist. I don't know why I feel the need to let everyone know. I don't know why I am posting this.
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Postby Psukhe » Tue Mar 19, 2019 2:03 pm

Lanorth wrote:I don't believe in God. I am a Buddhist. I don't know why I feel the need to let everyone know. I don't know why I am posting this.

Does anyone actually know why anyone does absolutely anything? It's all conjecture based on what could be erroneous perception.
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