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Postby Heloin » Thu Feb 14, 2019 11:28 am

Dogmeat wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:Dr Who has the latter power? :?

That Sonic Screwdriver has a lot of uses.

It's got three settings.

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Postby Heloin » Thu Feb 14, 2019 11:29 am

The Grims wrote:
Dogmeat wrote:Now you know why he pronounces "China" like that.


That Sonic Screwdriver has a lot of uses.


As the first female Doctor said "oooh, it has THREE settings".
Pity she is not canon.
Though that could be a wish...

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Postby The Caleshan Valkyrie » Thu Feb 14, 2019 12:31 pm

Bassoe wrote:Wish #1
Prevent the universe from being possibly rendered inhospitable to life via altering the laws of physics so that whenever quantum decay takes place an equivalent amount of hydrogen atoms materialize randomly in unoccupied areas of interstellar space, therefore preventing the heat death and "reinforce" physics to prevent vacuum-energy-collapse, Big Crunch, Big Rip, the waking of Azathoth and/or any other such disasters rendering the universe unsuited to human and posthuman life.

Wish #2
The development of a functional means of antigravity/FTL equivalent to Roxolani hyperdrive/orbital launch technology and everyone’s memories getting modified to view me as its inventor.

Wish #3
The development of a device that serves as an infinite source of power and technological specifications for said device. Said device consists of a mass of seemingly random clockwork machinery complex enough it would not likely be discovered by chance but could be replicated by any decent metalworker which will rotate at ten KPH as a perpetual motion machine regardless of the amount of force it has to push against letting it generate electricity without fuel. Again, everyone’s memories have been modified to think I’m the inventor.


Huh, I don’t see many folks who read that Turtledove story. Always liked it tho.

Anyway:

Wish 1: The ability to alter the universe with a thought (and maybe a confirmation signal, don’t want to accidentally extinguish the sun)

Wish 2: To know where extraterrestrial life exists so I can go on a great big conquest—I mean sightseeing tour...

Wish 3: Free any and all genies, just to make sure nobody else can pull off what I did.
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Postby Cetacea » Thu Feb 14, 2019 2:12 pm

Wish 1. I agree the OPs 'Persuade anyone of anything' ability sounds awesome, so i'll take that first. Being able to persuade anyone of anything would essentially mean I could convince girls to drop panties, creditors to wipe my debts and shop keepers to give me stuff, so I'm not sure what the point of endless money would be since I no longer need it :) as such

Wish 2. The ability to conjure any object or structure I desire into existence in front of me, be it an sandwich in my hand, a new vehicle in my driveway, the latest computer system, a fully furnished 100 room mansion, a new AR entertainment center, a technology hub - literary anything:)

Wish 3. the ability to engender perfect and lasting health (physical, mental, emotional, social etx) on myself and everyone around me - I don't want immortality if noone else has it, however having everyone I know and love perfectly healthy and living fulfilling lives (via wish 2) would be much better


The Caleshan Valkyrie wrote:Wish 3: Free any and all genies, just to make sure nobody else can pull off what I did.


Thats a really bad idea, by canon Genies are Evil and Malevolent beings who are bound in servitude by the Seal of Solomon, if you free them all, they will all be free to slaughter everyone and everything you hold dear.
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Postby Trollzyn the Infinite » Thu Feb 14, 2019 2:58 pm

Well, first I'd wish for a backpack full of cash that automatically replenishes itself every twenty-four hours for as long as I'm alive. Then I'd wish I was back home (genie in toe, so I can make the final wish), and finally I'd give the genie his freedom.

I mean really, if I had infinite money I could fix all my own problems and a lot of other peoples' to boot so there's really nothing else I need to wish for. It's less about the money and more about what I can do with it: help people (and myself, because Lord knows I need it too).
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Postby Valrifell » Thu Feb 14, 2019 3:53 pm

Is wishing for confidence and happiness to sad, pathetic, and/or cliche?

Asking for... uh... friend.

The persuasion thing sounds cool, too, though
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Postby Auze » Thu Feb 14, 2019 7:04 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:\
Actually no, scratch that, my last wish would be to speak fluent Arabic.

Which dialect?
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Thu Feb 14, 2019 7:05 pm

Auze wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:\
Actually no, scratch that, my last wish would be to speak fluent Arabic.

Which dialect?

All of them
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Postby Auze » Thu Feb 14, 2019 7:31 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Auze wrote:Which dialect?

All of them

In that case, why not go big or go home, and ask to be able to forever speak, write, and understand every Semitic language? Aramaic (the languages of Christ and modern day Assyrians)? Done. Hebrew? Done. Razhi? Done. Amharic, Oromo, and Tigrinya? Done. Maltese? Done. Modern South Arabian languages? Done. A bunch more Ethiopian languages? Done.

Need I say any more?
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Postby Trinadaed » Thu Feb 14, 2019 7:33 pm

1. unlimited bread

2. Destroy North Korea

3. Make Poland the best European country. Or is it Belgium? Idk now.
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Postby Kombinita Socialisma Demokratio » Thu Feb 14, 2019 7:35 pm

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Postby Godular » Thu Feb 14, 2019 7:35 pm

Cetacea wrote:Wish 1. I agree the OPs 'Persuade anyone of anything' ability sounds awesome, so i'll take that first. Being able to persuade anyone of anything would essentially mean I could convince girls to drop panties, creditors to wipe my debts and shop keepers to give me stuff, so I'm not sure what the point of endless money would be since I no longer need it :) as such

Wish 2. The ability to conjure any object or structure I desire into existence in front of me, be it an sandwich in my hand, a new vehicle in my driveway, the latest computer system, a fully furnished 100 room mansion, a new AR entertainment center, a technology hub - literary anything:)

Wish 3. the ability to engender perfect and lasting health (physical, mental, emotional, social etx) on myself and everyone around me - I don't want immortality if noone else has it, however having everyone I know and love perfectly healthy and living fulfilling lives (via wish 2) would be much better


The Caleshan Valkyrie wrote:Wish 3: Free any and all genies, just to make sure nobody else can pull off what I did.


Thats a really bad idea, by canon Genies are Evil and Malevolent beings who are bound in servitude by the Seal of Solomon, if you free them all, they will all be free to slaughter everyone and everything you hold dear.


No they won't. I'll identify any such entities and make them dead courtesy of wish number 1.
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Postby Wunderstrafanstalt » Thu Feb 14, 2019 7:50 pm

1. I wish for the power to disassemble and reassemble protons, neutrons, electrons, and energy forms into new configurations very easily, with the energy generated/required from it teleported from distant stars, i.e alchemy. (Literally become God: creating anything from rice to gold to orbital weapons out of literal thin air, heath-based immortality, etc)

2. I wish for all the world's social/scientific knowledge and the ability to thoroughly understand and comprehend them and it doesn't strain my mental health at all.

3. I wish for all existing genies and all their possible magical counterparts, imcluding God if he exists, minus me, to be trapped in a ring forever which I will wear for eternity and the ring does not emit any harm/pain/disturbance to me, and they cannot get out or do anything without my permission.

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Postby Geneviev » Thu Feb 14, 2019 10:58 pm

1. I would wish to go back to my home.
2. That people can't get sick.
And 3. That everyone goes to heaven.
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Postby Dangine » Thu Feb 14, 2019 11:06 pm

1. To become more Social
2. Be able to speak every language in the world
3. Have a ape as a bodyguard
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Postby Wunderstrafanstalt » Thu Feb 14, 2019 11:13 pm

Geneviev wrote:1. I would wish to go back to my home.
2. That people can't get sick.
And 3. That everyone goes to heaven.


3) You might want to word that more carefully, will everyone go to heaven when they die or now?

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Postby Geneviev » Thu Feb 14, 2019 11:13 pm

Wunderstrafanstalt wrote:
Geneviev wrote:1. I would wish to go back to my home.
2. That people can't get sick.
And 3. That everyone goes to heaven.


3) You might want to word that more carefully, will everyone go to heaven when they die or now?

I meant when they die.
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Postby Wunderstrafanstalt » Thu Feb 14, 2019 11:17 pm

I think the OP should include a disclaimer of how can genies do horrifying word tricks.

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Postby The Blaatschapen » Fri Feb 15, 2019 12:33 am

Geneviev wrote:1. I would wish to go back to my home.
2. That people can't get sick.
And 3. That everyone goes to heaven.


On three, sorry but I really prefer to live first :p
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Postby The Grims » Fri Feb 15, 2019 1:49 am

Geneviev wrote:
Wunderstrafanstalt wrote:
3) You might want to word that more carefully, will everyone go to heaven when they die or now?

I meant when they die.


But what if they prefer reincarnation, Valhalla or any other afterlife ?
And are you certain you want the gates of heaven to let just everybody in? All the nonbelievers, all the bad people, all the ones who never did any works getting the same rewards, meaning how one behaved in life does not matter?

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Postby Multiversal Venn-Copard » Fri Feb 15, 2019 1:53 am

The Grims wrote:
Geneviev wrote:I meant when they die.


But what if they prefer reincarnation, Valhalla or any other afterlife ?
And are you certain you want the gates of heaven to let just everybody in? All the nonbelievers, all the bad people, all the ones who never did any works getting the same rewards, meaning how one behaved in life does not matter?

I liked my afterlife wish a little better: everyone gets what they'd prefer.

I do personally think that everyone who wants to be happy deserves it, and nobody has to share an afterlife with a bad person if they don't want to feel jealous or offended!

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Postby Cetacea » Fri Feb 15, 2019 2:26 am

Godular wrote:
No they won't. I'll identify any such entities and make them dead courtesy of wish number 1.


well one of the stipulations is no killing people, I would presume that free genies count as people

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Postby Jetan » Fri Feb 15, 2019 2:44 am

My first wish would be for the genie to grant my wishes properly, as I mean them, instead of as it interprets them. Second and third wish I'd have to think about a bit first.
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Postby Marginal Territory » Fri Feb 15, 2019 10:37 am

Okay, so this takes a bit of explaining. I would wish for the ability to sit down at any point, impartially decide what I'm going to do, and commit to doing it, and then my body will automatically do that unless I slam on the breaks, and I'm just along for the ride. Basically unlimited executive function.
Then I would wish for the ability to just basically feel okay about most things, to be able to cope with pretty much anything life throws at me.
Then I would wish for the ability to stop time at any point and spend as much subjective time as I want in like this vast, comfy library with billions of books in it. When I come back to the real world, it's at exactly the same moment I left.
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