Italy's Salvini May Face Trial for 'Kidnapping' Migrants

[Liriena]

They will if those are their orders.

Plus the convention explicitly states that the rescuing party needs to be "informed of their [lost at sea] distress"

Can't be informed if you choose to not care
(b) to proceed with all possible speed to the rescue of persons in
distress, if informed of their need of assistance, in so far as such
action may reasonably be expected of him;

Well since you want Italy to abandon its territorial waters I suppose it follows that you want Italy to stop having coast guard patrols.

It's kinda weird that you say that the moral thing to do is rescue people, but also you seem to want very badly to find a way to justifiably let them drown.

It's the typical far right performativity. It's impossible to be both far right and a moral person who deserves to be taken seriously, but they can't just act like absolute scumbags all the time or people will catch on to the fact that they are bad faith actors, so they sprinkle a bit of lip-service to morality, propriety, civility, etc.

It's kind of like when a fast food restaurant puts out ads about the dangers of diabetes.

[Alvecia]

Well since you want Italy to abandon its territorial waters I suppose it follows that you want Italy to stop having coast guard patrols.

It's kinda weird that you say that the moral thing to do is rescue people, but also you seem to want very badly to find a way to justifiably let them drown.

It's the typical far right performativity. It's impossible to be both far right and a moral person who deserves to be taken seriously, but they can't just act like absolute scumbags all the time or people will catch on to the fact that they are bad faith actors, so they sprinkle a bit of lip-service to morality, propriety, civility, etc.

It's kind of like when a fast food restaurant puts out ads about the dangers of diabetes.

McDonalds fruit bags

[Liriena]

It's the typical far right performativity. It's impossible to be both far right and a moral person who deserves to be taken seriously, but they can't just act like absolute scumbags all the time or people will catch on to the fact that they are bad faith actors, so they sprinkle a bit of lip-service to morality, propriety, civility, etc.

It's kind of like when a fast food restaurant puts out ads about the dangers of diabetes.

McDonalds fruit bags

And their vegan stuff.

[Alvecia]

McDonalds fruit bags

And their vegan stuff.

Fuck me, didn't even know about that.

[Lamoni]

Prove it

Prove it

Mixing cultures would create new identities, actually.

Depends on the capitalist.

Oh, look. Another Communist. There is evidence of refugees often destroy the economy of the areas they are in.

But to be honest my biggest problems with illegal immigrants is that they are often exploited by criminals

Attack the argument, not the player. iLoom.

[Liriena]

And their vegan stuff.

Fuck me, didn't even know about that.

I'd rather eat raw tofu than buy a McDonald's soy burger

[The Greater Ohio Valley]

How many African poverty-escapers do you host in your house?

Applying similar logic, and likely correctly assuming that you’re a nationalist, do you have plans to respect the wishes of British nationalists and move back to Poland?

[The Greater Ohio Valley]

Toss em overboard all the time do you?

No just smirk and shout "AY LMAO" out of the window as I see them walking on the motorway in Calais.

That’s some bottom barrel cringe.

[Yusseria]

Not my fault your triggers are so sensitive is it

"Lol u triggered lib??!!!" I giggle while Doritos-colored diarrhea runs down my pasty white legs, staining my border wall-patterned pants and pooling inside my China-made MAGA crocs. I am very cool and special.

>pasty white legs

Somehow I get the sense you're just as white as he is.

[Phoenicaea]

^ @Yusseria ..this citation about 'pants' from @Liriena is brilliant. i propose it will be remember as the 'pants' citation. it is brilliant. i applaud.

[Ifreann]

"Lol u triggered lib??!!!" I giggle while Doritos-colored diarrhea runs down my pasty white legs, staining my border wall-patterned pants and pooling inside my China-made MAGA crocs. I am very cool and special.

>pasty white legs

Somehow I get the sense you're just as white as he is.

I dunno, Liriena might have a tan.

[Thermodolia]

Not my fault your triggers are so sensitive is it

"Lol u triggered lib??!!!" I giggle while Doritos-colored diarrhea runs down my pasty white legs, staining my border wall-patterned pants and pooling inside my China-made MAGA crocs. I am very cool and special.

Please I just ate

[Bienenhalde]

That's the scenario. In this case someone had a near deadly accident, you rescued them, took them onto the relative safety of the bridge, and said "you aren't getting out of here unless you jump." That's Saw shit.

This gets filed under the "too bad" bookcase.

The country doesn't want them, and law cannot be changed. The only option is to flout the law in the name of common sense.

Wrong. The only option is to obey the law regardless of what the majority of the people want.

[Liriena]

>pasty white legs

Somehow I get the sense you're just as white as he is.

I dunno, Liriena might have a tan.

I wish. ;-;

[Trumptonium1]

How many African poverty-escapers do you host in your house?

Applying similar logic, and likely correctly assuming that you’re a nationalist, do you have plans to respect the wishes of British nationalists and move back to Poland?

which ones?

This gets filed under the "too bad" bookcase.

The country doesn't want them, and law cannot be changed. The only option is to flout the law in the name of common sense.

Wrong. The only option is to obey the law regardless of what the majority of the people want.

the law is crap

[Bienenhalde]

the law is crap

Well, the job of a judge is to enforce the law. The subjective opinion of some random person in a foreign country about that law does not matter.

[Neutraligon]

Not my fault your triggers are so sensitive is it

"Lol u triggered lib??!!!" I giggle while Doritos-colored diarrhea runs down my pasty white legs, staining my border wall-patterned pants and pooling inside my China-made MAGA crocs. I am very cool and special.

Well since you want Italy to abandon its territorial waters I suppose it follows that you want Italy to stop having coast guard patrols.

It's kinda weird that you say that the moral thing to do is rescue people, but also you seem to want very badly to find a way to justifiably let them drown.

It's the typical far right performativity. It's impossible to be both far right and a moral person who deserves to be taken seriously, but they can't just act like absolute scumbags all the time or people will catch on to the fact that they are bad faith actors, so they sprinkle a bit of lip-service to morality, propriety, civility, etc.

It's kind of like when a fast food restaurant puts out ads about the dangers of diabetes.

*** Liriena, given your history you get a 3 day ban for flaming and trolling in the above posts. ***

[Trumptonium1]

the law is crap

Well, the job of a judge is to enforce the law. The subjective opinion of some random person in a foreign country about that law does not matter.

okay so what?

i'm not disputing that's not the job of the judge, so what's your point?

majority of Italians agree that in order to fix Italy you need someone who is willing to break the constitution, and as I've stated on page 1, I want Salvini to be arrested.

all i'm saying is, take the route to common sense.

because your route is sleepwalking to fascism.

[Bienenhalde]

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all i'm saying is, take the route to common sense.

because your route is sleepwalking to fascism.

I am pretty sure that disrespecting the rule of law is what is leading Italy to fascism. Establishing an arbitrary tyranny that simply wields power without following laws sounds fascist to me.

[Trumptonium1]

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all i'm saying is, take the route to common sense.

because your route is sleepwalking to fascism.

I am pretty sure that disrespecting the rule of law is what is leading Italy to fascism. Establishing an arbitrary tyranny that simply wields power without following laws sounds fascist to me.

pretty sure that weimar germany respecting the rule of law to the letter is precisely what led them to fascism.

[Valrifell]

pretty sure that weimar germany respecting the rule of law to the letter is precisely what led them to fascism.

Pretty sure it was the Nazis that lead Wiemar to fascism.

What? Are you saying it's the Fascists' fault that Fascism rooted in Germany? Manipulating the law to get their way?

Nonsense, clearly it just happened.

[Kustonia]

pretty sure that weimar germany respecting the rule of law to the letter is precisely what led them to fascism.

Pretty sure it was the Nazis that lead Wiemar to fascism.

The Wiemar Republic was not a fascist state, is was a liberal democratic state. However relevant, not the topic of this thread.

[Des-Bal]

The Wiemar Republic was not a fascist state, is was a liberal democratic state. However relevant, not the topic of this thread.

It's totally relevant, if you don't ignore the laws that liberals made you agree to and not alter and let migrants drown then you support nazism.

[Kustonia]

The Wiemar Republic was not a fascist state, is was a liberal democratic state. However relevant, not the topic of this thread.

It's totally relevant, if you don't ignore the laws that liberals made you agree to and not alter and let migrants drown then you support nazism.

>all non-liberals are Nazis

Nice strawman

[LiberNovusAmericae]

I'm for controlled immigration. That's probably the term I should have used. Only people who are willing to assimilate and can prove said willingness should be allowed to enter and stay.

So you're in favor of greatly increased immigration?

I doubt that would be the result of my policies, and what I wrote is still very vague. Either way, I care not about how many immigrants come in, but how many radical Islamists and other hoodlums are kept out or deported.