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Postby Risottia » Wed Feb 13, 2019 11:26 am

Ifreann wrote:
Democratic Deutschland wrote:So... people are now being arrested for stopping Illegal Immigration in their Country?

Jeez... I don't even think he should be punished.

He hasn't been arrested and wasn't stopping illegal immigration.

Concepts like "ministers are bound by law and Constitution" are wasted on some.
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Postby Vojelneit » Wed Feb 13, 2019 11:34 am

Lol. Honest people that want to protect their economy and identity by not letting in uncontrolled hordes of migrants now risk being put on trial.
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Postby Vassenor » Wed Feb 13, 2019 11:34 am

Vojelneit wrote:Lol. Honest people that want to protect their economy and identity by not letting in uncontrolled hordes of migrants now risk being put on trial.
Curious world we live in.


So how is this doing either of those things? What economic damage would these people actually cause?

Also >protect their identity

#notaracistbut
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Postby Risottia » Wed Feb 13, 2019 11:36 am

Reichsstaaten von Germania wrote:In my opinion, nothing wrong was done. Italy can’t take every schmuck who wants to come and yes they are illegal immigrants even if refugees because they are still attempting to enter Italy without going through the immigration process which is,again in my opinion, unfair that they can just enter freely while others who want to come legally and are doing the immigration process have to wait for acceptance.

Your opinion is unfounded and thus meaningless, as international treatises to which Italy is a party state that asylum seekers can enter freely the borders, provided they declare themselves to the nearest police office after the border. We're discussing people who were already on Italian territory (an Italian military ship) and declared themselves to a military police force (the Coast Guard).
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Postby Reichsstaaten von Germania » Wed Feb 13, 2019 11:37 am

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Vojelneit wrote:Lol. Honest people that want to protect their economy and identity by not letting in uncontrolled hordes of migrants now risk being put on trial.
Curious world we live in.


So how is this doing either of those things? What economic damage would these people actually cause?

Also >protect their identity

#notaracistbut


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Postby Vassenor » Wed Feb 13, 2019 11:38 am

Reichsstaaten von Germania wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
So how is this doing either of those things? What economic damage would these people actually cause?

Also >protect their identity

#notaracistbut


#letsjustthroweveyonescultureintoafuckingblenderinsteadofpreservingwhatmakestgemunqiue


So what actual damage are these people going to cause to culture?
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Postby Kustonia » Wed Feb 13, 2019 11:40 am

Vassenor wrote:
Reichsstaaten von Germania wrote:
#letsjustthroweveyonescultureintoafuckingblenderinsteadofpreservingwhatmakestgemunqiue


So what actual damage are these people going to cause to culture?


They're going to decimate it so that it no longer exists, which is the goal of globalism.
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Postby Vassenor » Wed Feb 13, 2019 11:41 am

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So what actual damage are these people going to cause to culture?


They're going to decimate it so that it no longer exists, which is the goal of globalism.


OK, put that dogwhistle down and try again. With actual evidence to support your point.
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Postby Des-Bal » Wed Feb 13, 2019 11:44 am

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They're going to decimate it so that it no longer exists, which is the goal of globalism.


Culture isn't some monolothic force it's just the collection of things a group of people do. If your culture is so inferior that upon exposure to other cultures it will die out why do you feel it's worthy of existing?
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Vassenor wrote:
Reichsstaaten von Germania wrote:
#letsjustthroweveyonescultureintoafuckingblenderinsteadofpreservingwhatmakestgemunqiue


So what actual damage are these people going to cause to culture?

They break the spaghetti in half! No, wait, that's what Germans do.
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Postby Vojelneit » Wed Feb 13, 2019 11:45 am

Vassenor wrote:
Vojelneit wrote:Lol. Honest people that want to protect their economy and identity by not letting in uncontrolled hordes of migrants now risk being put on trial.
Curious world we live in.


So how is this doing either of those things? What economic damage would these people actually cause?


These people have to be housed and taken care of, despite most of them living off social aids and not working, at least where I live.

Vassenor wrote:Also >protect their identity

#notaracistbut


Literally at what point did I talk about race?
If I don't want my culture to fade away into the abysses of time by letting in enormous amounts of immigrants who rarely assimilate properly, I'm a racist?
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Postby Vassenor » Wed Feb 13, 2019 11:48 am

Vojelneit wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
So how is this doing either of those things? What economic damage would these people actually cause?


These people have to be housed and taken care of, despite most of them living off social aids and not working, at least where I live.

Vassenor wrote:Also >protect their identity

#notaracistbut


Literally at what point did I talk about race?
If I don't want my culture to fade away into the abysses of time by letting in enormous amounts of immigrants who rarely assimilate properly, I'm a racist?


So how are these people going to cause that?
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Des-Bal wrote:
Kustonia wrote:
They're going to decimate it so that it no longer exists, which is the goal of globalism.


Culture isn't some monolothic force it's just the collection of things a group of people do. If your culture is so inferior that upon exposure to other cultures it will die out why do you feel it's worthy of existing?


It's not just "exposure to other cultures". It's a massive amount of immigration that cannot be sustained by the host country. These immigrants are often poorly assimilated in their host country's culture, reduce the feeling of national cohesion even further, which eventually leads the culture to fade away.
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Postby Vassenor » Wed Feb 13, 2019 11:50 am

Vojelneit wrote:
Des-Bal wrote:
Culture isn't some monolothic force it's just the collection of things a group of people do. If your culture is so inferior that upon exposure to other cultures it will die out why do you feel it's worthy of existing?


It's not just "exposure to other cultures". It's a massive amount of immigration that cannot be sustained by the host country. These immigrants are often poorly assimilated in their host country's culture, reduce the feeling of national cohesion even further, which eventually leads the culture to fade away.


Where was that poll where the Muslim population in the UK felt more strongly British than the native one...
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Postby Farnhamia » Wed Feb 13, 2019 11:51 am

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And so we're back at the only thing making them illegal being his say-so.


The Italian Government says so

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Postby Des-Bal » Wed Feb 13, 2019 11:53 am

Vojelneit wrote:
It's not just "exposure to other cultures". It's a massive amount of immigration that cannot be sustained by the host country. These immigrants are often poorly assimilated in their host country's culture, reduce the feeling of national cohesion even further, which eventually leads the culture to fade away.


That's exposure. See, you're talking about people coming in and not being beaten into the shape of the existing culture by some outside force. That is nothing except a culture meeting an apparently superior one.
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Postby The United Duchy Of Baltica » Wed Feb 13, 2019 11:53 am

Farnhamia wrote:
Reichsstaaten von Germania wrote:
The Italian Government says so

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Postby Kustonia » Wed Feb 13, 2019 11:56 am

Vassenor wrote:
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They're going to decimate it so that it no longer exists, which is the goal of globalism.


OK, put that dogwhistle down and try again. With actual evidence to support your point.


https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2000/sep/03/race.world
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Wed Feb 13, 2019 11:57 am

Kustonia wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
So what actual damage are these people going to cause to culture?


They're going to decimate it so that it no longer exists, which is the goal of globalism.

Culture changes all the time. Italian culture is going to change even if more migrants of different backgrounds dont move to italy.
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Kustonia wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
OK, put that dogwhistle down and try again. With actual evidence to support your point.


https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2000/sep/03/race.world


So your evidence is an op-ed from two decades ago?
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Postby Kustonia » Wed Feb 13, 2019 11:59 am

Des-Bal wrote:
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They're going to decimate it so that it no longer exists, which is the goal of globalism.


Culture isn't some monolothic force it's just the collection of things a group of people do. If your culture is so inferior that upon exposure to other cultures it will die out why do you feel it's worthy of existing?


Cultures aren't inferior, they're identities that races create. Each race has its own culture and when you strip them away, you're unconsciously promoting genocide.
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Kustonia wrote:
Des-Bal wrote:
Culture isn't some monolothic force it's just the collection of things a group of people do. If your culture is so inferior that upon exposure to other cultures it will die out why do you feel it's worthy of existing?


Cultures aren't inferior, they're identities that races create. Each race has its own culture and when you strip them away, you're unconsciously promoting genocide.

Each race has a vast myriad of cultures. There is no one culture for each race.
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Kustonia wrote:
Des-Bal wrote:
Culture isn't some monolothic force it's just the collection of things a group of people do. If your culture is so inferior that upon exposure to other cultures it will die out why do you feel it's worthy of existing?


Cultures aren't inferior, they're identities that races create. Each race has its own culture and when you strip them away, you're unconsciously promoting genocide.


So what is White Culture?
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So your evidence is an op-ed from two decades ago?


Science is relevant no matter the decade and data can last decades, even centuries.
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Postby Des-Bal » Wed Feb 13, 2019 12:01 pm

Kustonia wrote:
Cultures aren't inferior, they're identities that races create. Each race has its own culture and when you strip them away, you're unconsciously promoting genocide.


Cultures mix, when one thoroughly outperforms another it's superior. That's just what the word means.
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