Italy's Salvini May Face Trial for 'Kidnapping' Migrants

[Kustonia]

"A special tribunal has ruled that Interior Minister Matteo Salvini can face trial for 'illegally confining' people rescued at sea aboard an Italian coastguard ship, despite an earlier recommendation to drop the case."

"Shortly afterwards Sicilian prosecutors opened an investigation into the interior minister for suspected 'illegal confinement, illegal arrest and abuse of power', only to recommend in November that the case be dropped."

"Yet this week a special tribunal in Catania overturned that recommendation, ruling that Salvini could indeed stand trial."

Matteo Salvini responded on Twitter:

"I could face between three and five years in prison for having stopped illegal migrants landing in Italy. I'm speechless. Fear? Zero. I'll continue to work to defend my country's borders and Italians' safety!"

https://www.thelocal.it/20190125/italy-salvini-may-face-trial-for-kidnapping-migrants-diciotti

Should Salvini face trial for stopping illegal immigration? What would be the consequences for Italy?

[Democratic Deutschland]

So... people are now being arrested for stopping Illegal Immigration in their Country?

Jeez... I don't even think he should be punished.

[Temporarrium]

OP, I think you should tell us what YOU think and why before the mods come.

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I don't strongly think that Salvini should be punished from his actions. He did relent to the entry of the minors into the country. Why even worry? After all the trial is not certain.
“Five Star has no choice, it has to help Salvini because it doesn’t want the government to collapse before the European elections,” said Roberto D’Alimonte, a political science professor at Rome’s Luiss University. “The League is much more able than Five Star -- the migrant case boosts Salvini’s popularity.”(from news.yahoo.com)

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Hello no, he was keeping illegals out of his country. We all know the mods are a bunch of leftists.

Chill.

I was just concerned that this thread might get closed from not following the rules.

[American Pere Housh]

Hello no, he was keeping illegals out of his country. We all know the mods are a bunch of leftists.

[Ifreann]

So... people are now being arrested for stopping Illegal Immigration in their Country?

Jeez... I don't even think he should be punished.

He hasn't been arrested and wasn't stopping illegal immigration.

[The Grims]

So... people are now being arrested for stopping Illegal Immigration in their Country?

Is that abnormal ? Would a Texan vigilante patrolling the border to shoot crossing Mexicans not be punished ?

[Kustonia]

So... people are now being arrested for stopping Illegal Immigration in their Country?

Is that abnormal ? Would a Texan vigilante patrolling the border to shoot crossing Mexicans not be punished ?

Stopping illegal immigration and refugees doesn't require violent methods. Bad analogy.

[Ifreann]

So... people are now being arrested for stopping Illegal Immigration in their Country?

Is that abnormal ? Would a Texan vigilante patrolling the border to shoot crossing Mexicans not be punished ?

Let's not accept the framing of this as "stopping illegal immigration". Salvini ordered an Italian coast guard vessel not to allow the people it had rescued from the Mediterranean to disembark.

[Kustonia]

Is that abnormal ? Would a Texan vigilante patrolling the border to shoot crossing Mexicans not be punished ?

Let's not accept the framing of this as "stopping illegal immigration". Salvini ordered an Italian coast guard vessel not to allow the people it had rescued from the Mediterranean to disembark.

They had the freedom to disembark elsewhere, like Libya. Italy closed its ports of entry, remember?

[Democratic Deutschland]

So... people are now being arrested for stopping Illegal Immigration in their Country?

Is that abnormal ? Would a Texan vigilante patrolling the border to shoot crossing Mexicans not be punished ?

Ok, so I must've been vague.

No, I don't believe that everyone should be getting off scot free, and a Texan Vigilante shooting mexicans crossing the border (Legally or Illegally) should be punished.

But if you're a leader that's allowing for Illegal Immigrants to be detained and you're being punished for that? You shouldn't be punished.

[Chan Island]

Is that abnormal ? Would a Texan vigilante patrolling the border to shoot crossing Mexicans not be punished ?

Ok, so I must've been vague.

No, I don't believe that everyone should be getting off scot free, and a Texan Vigilante shooting mexicans crossing the border (Legally or Illegally) should be punished.

But if you're a leader that's allowing for Illegal Immigrants to be detained and you're being punished for that? You shouldn't be punished.

But they were not detained a place meant to take detainees. They were held on a boat.

I think if a Texas border patrol agent kept illegal immigrants in the back of his van he would face a similar charges to what Salvini is getting here.

[Vassenor]

So what makes them illegal migrants beyond his saying so?

[Kustonia]

So what makes them illegal migrants beyond his saying so?

They were headed for Italy which has closed its ports of entry.

[Vassenor]

So what makes them illegal migrants beyond his saying so?

They were headed for Italy which has closed its ports of entry.

And?

[Kustonia]

They were headed for Italy which has closed its ports of entry.

And?

They aren't allowed to enter.

[Ifreann]

Let's not accept the framing of this as "stopping illegal immigration". Salvini ordered an Italian coast guard vessel not to allow the people it had rescued from the Mediterranean to disembark.

They had the freedom to disembark elsewhere, like Libya.

No, they didn't. The rescued people were on an Italian coast guard vessel. They had no authority over the captain of that vessel, nor did the captain of that vessel have the authority to take it wherever he felt like.

Italy closed its ports of entry, remember?

I don't recall Italy doing anything of the sort.

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Is that abnormal ? Would a Texan vigilante patrolling the border to shoot crossing Mexicans not be punished ?

Ok, so I must've been vague.

No, I don't believe that everyone should be getting off scot free, and a Texan Vigilante shooting mexicans crossing the border (Legally or Illegally) should be punished.

But if you're a leader that's allowing for Illegal Immigrants to be detained and you're being punished for that? You shouldn't be punished.

Matteo Salvini is not the leader of Italy, he's the Deputy Prime Minister and Minister of the Interior. He can't just do whatever the fuck he wants, he has to obey the law.

[Vassenor]

And?

They aren't allowed to enter.

And so we're back at the only thing making them illegal being his say-so.

[Ifreann]

So what makes them illegal migrants beyond his saying so?

They were headed for Italy which has closed its ports of entry.

They were on an Italian coast guard vessel. They were headed wherever the Italian coast guard took them.

[Kustonia]

They had the freedom to disembark elsewhere, like Libya.

No, they didn't. The rescued people were on an Italian coast guard vessel. They had no authority over the captain of that vessel, nor did the captain of that vessel have the authority to take it wherever he felt like.

So the captain should be on trial for detaining the migrants, not Salvini.

Italy closed its ports of entry, remember?

I don't recall Italy doing anything of the sort.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-44668062

[Vassenor]

No, they didn't. The rescued people were on an Italian coast guard vessel. They had no authority over the captain of that vessel, nor did the captain of that vessel have the authority to take it wherever he felt like.

So the captain should be on trial for detaining the migrants, not Salvini.

Italy closed its ports of entry, remember?

I don't recall Italy doing anything of the sort.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-44668062

Migrants saved by boats run by non-governmental organisations will not be allowed into Italy, rightwing Interior Minister Matteo Salvini says.

I don't recall the Italian Coastguard being a non-governmental organisation.

[Reichsstaaten von Germania]

They aren't allowed to enter.

And so we're back at the only thing making them illegal being his say-so.

The Italian Government says so

[Vassenor]

And so we're back at the only thing making them illegal being his say-so.

The Italian Government says so

When did the parliament vote on it?

[Kustonia]

The Italian Government says so

When did the parliament vote on it?

It doesn't have to be voted on. There are other facets of government that do not require legislation.

[Vassenor]

When did the parliament vote on it?

It doesn't have to be voted on. There are other facets of government that do not require legislation.

So it is still just because he says so.

[LiberNovusAmericae]

Italian law should be changed. This is ridiculous. Not allowing migrants to freely roam your country should not be illegal.