Tennessee to Attempt to Ban Same Sex Marriage

[San Lumen]

No. Because you’d have to show that the decision has harmed people. Since it’s nearly impossible for two consenting individuals to harm others the case is over day one.

Is the harm factor the only way a SCOTUS ruling can get overturned?

No but in this case its probably one of the only ways if not the only one as there is no reasonable way you could claim the 14th amendment doesnt apply to all.

[Alvecia]

So it could get ruled on, you just don’t think it’s likely?

No it never would even reach SCOTUS. Not ever. Appellate courts in the US only hear cases if they think the lower court messed up the procedure of the case not the specifics of the case.

Wouldn’t that mean that the SCOTUS can only ever overturn one of their previous rulings if a case on the same subject was mishandled all the way up to them?

[Andsed]

As others have metioned this bill will not pass. SCOTUS has already ruled and there is no way that a strong enough case could be made to get SCOTUS to overturn it.

[Risottia]

So we're doing this dance again?

Dance? What dance? ... Oh right
Say "Yeehaw", bow to the ladies, yell "muh State's rights", now clap twice and sing along "I hate the yankee nation and everythin' they do, I hate the Declaration of Independence too".
That one?

[Thermodolia]

No it never would even reach SCOTUS. Not ever. Appellate courts in the US only hear cases if they think the lower court messed up the procedure of the case not the specifics of the case.

Wouldn’t that mean that the SCOTUS can only ever overturn one of their previous rulings if a case on the same subject was mishandled all the way up to them?

Yes.

And that is so rare that you have a higher chance at winning the lottery 3 times over in a row

[San Lumen]

As others have metioned this bill will not pass. SCOTUS has already ruled and there is no way that a strong enough case could be made to get SCOTUS to overturn it.

It in theory could. The legislature is overwhelmingly Republican

[Thermodolia]

Is the harm factor the only way a SCOTUS ruling can get overturned?

No but in this case its probably one of the only ways if not the only one as there is no reasonable way you could claim the 14th amendment doesnt apply to all.

That’s not what needs to be argued you need to argue that the court’s decision harmed an individual.

[Thermodolia]

As others have metioned this bill will not pass. SCOTUS has already ruled and there is no way that a strong enough case could be made to get SCOTUS to overturn it.

It in theory could. The legislature is overwhelmingly Republican.

That means jackshit and you know it.

[Vassenor]

So we're doing this dance again?

What is it about letting two consenting adults be happy together that the GOP hates so damn much?

A minority in one state = the entire GOP

Alright, so by that logic


All Democrats are communists and want to violently overthrow the government

Well that's one hell of a way to shovel words in to my mouth.

[San Lumen]

It in theory could. The legislature is overwhelmingly Republican.

That means jackshit and you know it.

Why? with who has been appointed to the federal courts in recent years who knows what could happen if this bill passed?

[The Black Forrest]

Rights to oppress others with your Religious views aren't rights. Your Religion isn't being oppressed.

Who said it was my religion? You’re making assumptions now.

“Oppressing others”? Like what? Are you referring to the gay couple having a baker refuse to baking them a highly special cake and being there at their wedding?

Or some other form of “right to oppress others with your religious views”?

Easy to assume people talking about it are Religious.

The baker wasn't making a specialized cake. Just normal design; no gay things or references.

Refusal of service in a public entity is forcing your views on people.

The fact a customer is gay is irrelevant. Denial of marriage is religious driven thus oppression.

Never understood why religious people want gays closeted and dating and or marrying our sisters, daughters or mothers again.....

[Thermodolia]

That means jackshit and you know it.

Why? with who has been appointed to the federal courts in recent years who knows what could happen if this bill passed?

The bill isn’t going to get passed in the first place. And no not all republicans are a gay hating hive mind

[San Lumen]

Why? with who has been appointed to the federal courts in recent years who knows what could happen if this bill passed?

The bill isn’t going to get passed in the first place. And no not all republicans are a gay hating hive mind

How do you know?

I never said they were.

[Confederate States of German America]

Would it not just be possible to appeal it all the way up to the new SCOTUS?

It would still get rejected, even with a Republican SCOTUS.

Being Republican doesn’t make someone literally Hitler 2.0, just FYI.

A Republican SCOTUS can revoke the previous ruling, although I doubt until Roberts is replaced they will. More importantly, if the GOP had any balls, they could do an end run around the issue by limiting what SCOTUS can review; the mandate of the Court can be controlled by Congressional legislation, and the GOP could, in theory, pass legislation preventing the Court from reviewing cases of this nature. That they never have speaks volumes about their convictions on a personal level.

[Valrifell]

A nullification argument, in the year 2019 of our Lord?

[Washington Resistance Army]

This is totally bogus argument as the decisions of the Supreme Court apply to every state.

Whilst it would be nice if this was reality it really isn't tbh. It's becoming increasingly popular to just disregard the court if they say something your state doesn't like.

[Confederate States of German America]

A nullification argument, in the year 2019 of our Lord?

The South shook the Union and indeed the world before. Should force of arms be required again, I have no doubt in the ability of my homeland to do so once again.

[Valrifell]

A nullification argument, in the year 2019 of our Lord?

The South shook the Union and indeed the world before. Should force of arms be required again, I have no doubt in the ability of my homeland to do so once again.

I've mentioned this before, but the mythification of a war which the South not only lost, but resulted in the stunting of economic development and the loss of political prestige and power is so hillarious and bizarre from my perspective.

You'll lose again, if it comes to arms.

[The Black Forrest]

A nullification argument, in the year 2019 of our Lord?

The South shook the Union and indeed the world before. Should force of arms be required again, I have no doubt in the ability of my homeland to do so once again.

At least while Nascar, tractor pulls or a barbecue isn't happening.

[The New California Republic]

The South shook the Union and indeed the world before. Should force of arms be required again, I have no doubt in the ability of my homeland to do so once again.

At least while Nascar, tractor pulls or a barbecue isn't happening.

[Washington Resistance Army]

The South shook the Union and indeed the world before. Should force of arms be required again, I have no doubt in the ability of my homeland to do so once again.

At least while Nascar, tractor pulls or a barbecue isn't happening.

You say that like barbecue is a bad thing.

[Confederate States of German America]

The South shook the Union and indeed the world before. Should force of arms be required again, I have no doubt in the ability of my homeland to do so once again.

I've mentioned this before, but the mythification of a war which the South not only lost, but resulted in the stunting of economic development and the loss of political prestige and power is so hillarious and bizarre from my perspective.

You'll lose again, if it comes to arms.

It's no longer 1860, where the South contains just 25% of the White population and 15% of the nation's industry. Around 50% of the oil supply in the U.S. originates in it and Alabama, for just one example, is the third largest car exporter in the Union (South Carolina is #2). Overall, 36% of the nation's population lives in the South nowadays and around 44% of its soldiers originate from these lands; we never really lost that martial ability despite the defeat.

[Confederate States of German America]

At least while Nascar, tractor pulls or a barbecue isn't happening.

You say that like barbecue is a bad thing.

Yall muthafuckers tripping for not talking about Jack Daniels.

[Andsed]

I've mentioned this before, but the mythification of a war which the South not only lost, but resulted in the stunting of economic development and the loss of political prestige and power is so hillarious and bizarre from my perspective.

You'll lose again, if it comes to arms.

It's no longer 1860, where the South contains just 25% of the White population and 15% of the nation's industry. Around 50% of the oil supply in the U.S. originates in it and Alabama, for just one example, is the third largest car exporter in the Union. Overall, 36% of the nation's population lives in the South nowadays and around 44% of its soldiers originate from these lands; we never really lost that martial ability despite the defeat.

Okay but you realize the south rising in rebellion is not happening any time soon right? I mean what reason would southerns rebel against the government for?

[The Black Forrest]

At least while Nascar, tractor pulls or a barbecue isn't happening.

You say that like barbecue is a bad thing.

Not at all. We can distract the South by simply getting them arguing over which barbecue style is best.