Tennessee to Attempt to Ban Same Sex Marriage

[Internationalist Bastard]

The Supreme Court is the highest judicial authority in the US; you can't go around it. That's blatantly illegal.

Which shows how much of an asshole these guy is

[El-Amin Caliphate]

Idc

The constitution fotbids establishing a religion or restricting the free exercise therof. It’s in the first amendment

Riddle me this what do you think of same sex couples adopting? In some cases it’s the only family they have ever known. A friend of mine was raised by two men

Same thing as I said about this.

[Free Arabian Nation]

Sigh
Amun’s ideal form of government is a form of theocracy for each religion. The idea is that religious freedom would be preserved while allowing theocracy to exist
For clarification to those who haven’t discussed this with him prior

For more info, please read this.

You can dream, doesn't mean it will come true

[Trollzyn the Infinite]

Idc

You should. Your religion does not trump peoples rights to get married and the government should not be forcing people to follow any part of their religion if they don’t want to follow that part.

Ignore him, he's a theocrat. He doesn't care that we have our own secular laws and don't want Sharia Law ruining our country.

[New haven america]

In spite of the many times we’ve explained the plethora of freedom problems that arise even in your brand of it?

Like?

Firstly clergy cannot be forced to be preform same sex marriages. They have a legal
Right to refuse.

I like that.

A county or city clerk is a government employee they do not have the right to impose their religious beliefs on others

They aren't. They are enforcing religious law on those whose religion or lack thereof forbids or allows it. They aren't enforcing their own religion on people.

Yes they are.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

I don't have any problems with Al-Islam.

Sure you do if you need the laws of man to bend to it.

I'm not using any laws of man.

[San Lumen]

The constitution fotbids establishing a religion or restricting the free exercise therof. It’s in the first amendment

Riddle me this what do you think of same sex couples adopting? In some cases it’s the only family they have ever known. A friend of mine was raised by two men

Same thing as I said about this.

Which is it shouldn’t be allowed?

[Trollzyn the Infinite]

The Supreme Court is the highest judicial authority in the US; you can't go around it. That's blatantly illegal.

Which shows how much of an asshole these guy is

Only thing it shows me is some crooks that need a visit from the FBI.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

Like?

I like that.

They aren't. They are enforcing religious law on those whose religion or lack thereof forbids or allows it. They aren't enforcing their own religion on people.

Yes they are.

Same thing as I said about this.

Which is it shouldn’t be allowed?

Both of you please read this:

I believe that if this should be passed, it should only apply to those whose religion forbids homosexual acts. Others whose religion or lack thereof doesn't forbid homosexuality can do it.

[New haven america]

You should. Your religion does not trump peoples rights to get married and the government should not be forcing people to follow any part of their religion if they don’t want to follow that part.

Ignore him, he's a theocrat. He doesn't care that we have our own secular laws and don't want Sharia Law ruining our country.

No no, you see, he only wants Sharia Law to apply to Muslims.

When it comes to Christians or Jew, they'd have to follow Biblical and Jewish laws respectively. Same thing goes for Hindus or Buddhists who have to follow their own religion's laws, while atheists get to follow Secular laws.

[Andsed]

Yes they are.

Which is it shouldn’t be allowed?

Both of you please read this:

What do you mean by somewhat agree? Do you mean you agree with the concept or what?

I believe that if this should be passed, it should only apply to those whose religion forbids homosexual acts. Others whose religion or lack thereof doesn't forbid homosexuality can do it.

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Again as I have said already the government should not be forcing pepole to follow parts of their religion they don’t want to follow.

[San Lumen]

Yes they are.

Which is it shouldn’t be allowed?

Both of you please read this:

What do you mean by somewhat agree? Do you mean you agree with the concept or what?

I believe that if this should be passed, it should only apply to those whose religion forbids homosexual acts. Others whose religion or lack thereof doesn't forbid homosexuality can do it.

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I fail to see how you would enforce that. Religious beliefs was a argument used to justify bans on interracial marriage as well

[El-Amin Caliphate]

I fail to see how you would enforce that.

The same way that every law is enforced.

Religious beliefs was a argument used to justify bans on interracial marriage as well

This invalidates my argument how? I don't know a religion which believes this.

[Kannap]

https://www.tennessean.com/story/news/politics/2019/02/08/tennessee-marriage-defense-act-would-ban-same-sex-marriage/2805983002/

A bill has been introduced into the Tennessee Legislature that would effectively ban same sex marriage.

The bill would prohibit government officials especially county clerks issuing marriage certificates from recognizing any court ruling that affirms same-sex unions, and specifies they cannot be arrested for failing to comply with court orders that do so.

The bills sponsor Rep Jerry Sexton(R) stated that the U.S. Supreme Court's 2015 decision to legalize same-sex marriage is void in Tennessee because the state has already passed its own law and constitutional amendment limiting marriage to one man and one woman. This is totally bogus argument as the decisions of the Supreme Court apply to every state.

The proposed law also requires the states Attorney General to defend the law in court. This same bill was introduced last session and failed to get any traction.

It appears this whole thing is attempt to get the issue back before the Supreme Court where the right hopes the court will rule there is no right for LGBT couples to marry or adopt. I don't see how this law would be upheld in court or by SCOTUS as the Obergefell decision which legalized same sex marriage and adoption nationwide was decided under the 14th amendment and you would have to somehow prove it doesnt apply to LGBT people.

Your thoughts NSG?

I mean, they can't do that, but this is a hilarious attempt.

[Trollzyn the Infinite]

Both of you please read this:

I believe that if this should be passed, it should only apply to those whose religion forbids homosexual acts. Others whose religion or lack thereof doesn't forbid homosexuality can do it.

I fail to see how you would enforce that. Religious beliefs was a argument used to justify bans on interracial marriage as well

Same way Saudi Arabia enforces it's own theocratic laws.

I hear they're quite unpleasant about it.

[The Black Forrest]

Yes they are.

Which is it shouldn’t be allowed?

Both of you please read this:

I believe that if this should be passed, it should only apply to those whose religion forbids homosexual acts. Others whose religion or lack thereof doesn't forbid homosexuality can do it.

Your belief is flawed. It makes the astronomical assumption people would limit it to themselves. They won't.

Again. Your faith issues are not our concern. You should need a law to make you follow your faith.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

I fail to see how you would enforce that. Religious beliefs was a argument used to justify bans on interracial marriage as well

Same way Saudi Arabia enforces it's own theocratic laws.

I hear they're quite unpleasant about it.

Or how other countries enforce laws. There's more countries than Saudi.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

Both of you please read this:

Your belief is flawed. It makes the astronomical assumption people would limit it to themselves. They won't.

Again. Your faith issues are not our concern. You should need a law to make you follow your faith.

I do not have issues with my religion.

[Andsed]

Same way Saudi Arabia enforces it's own theocratic laws.

I hear they're quite unpleasant about it.

Or how other countries enforce laws. There's more countries than Saudi.

And how exactly do you plan on identifying peoples religion? Also can you please address this:

Idc

You should. Your religion does not trump peoples rights to get married and the government should not be forcing people to follow any part of their religion if they don’t want to follow that part.

[Trollzyn the Infinite]

Same way Saudi Arabia enforces it's own theocratic laws.

I hear they're quite unpleasant about it.

Or how other countries enforce laws. There's more countries than Saudi.

There are indeed, but most use secular law which has secular punishments. Seeing as you're against secularism...

[The Black Forrest]

Your belief is flawed. It makes the astronomical assumption people would limit it to themselves. They won't.

Again. Your faith issues are not our concern. You should need a law to make you follow your faith.

I do not have issues with my religion.

Ah but you do if you need laws to make you follow it.

[Trollzyn the Infinite]

Your belief is flawed. It makes the astronomical assumption people would limit it to themselves. They won't.

Again. Your faith issues are not our concern. You should need a law to make you follow your faith.

I do not have issues with my religion.

Maybe that is the issue, hm?

[El-Amin Caliphate]

Or how other countries enforce laws. There's more countries than Saudi.

And how exactly do you plan on identifying peoples religion?

I guess asking. Or some kind of way to find someone's religious identification. I wanna say some kind of physical identification.

Also can you please address this:

You should. Your religion does not trump peoples rights to get married and the government should not be forcing people to follow any part of their religion if they don’t want to follow that part.

What do you want me to say? It's an opinion.

[Andsed]

And how exactly do you plan on identifying peoples religion?

I guess asking. Or some kind of way to find someone's religious identification. I wanna say some kind of physical identification.

Also can you please address this:

What do you want me to say? It's an opinion.

I want you to give me one good reason why the government should force people to follow parts of their religion they don't want to follow.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

What do you want me to say? It's an opinion.

I want you to give me one good reason why the government should force people to follow parts of their religion they don't want to follow.

Why? My good reasons won't convince you either way. But i coudl ask you this question: why should i be forvdd to follow parts of American law I don't want to follow?