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Postby Kannap » Mon Feb 11, 2019 5:00 pm

Is this a thread about El-Amin Caliphate's religion or a thread about Tennessee and same sex marriage?
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Postby Andsed » Mon Feb 11, 2019 5:00 pm

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Andsed wrote:I want you to give me one good reason why the government should force people to follow parts of their religion they don't want to follow.

Why? My good reasons won't convince you either way.

Yeah because there are no good reasons. Religious belief is a personal thing and it is very oppressive for the government to force someone to follow a part of their religion they don't want to follow.
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Postby Vassenor » Mon Feb 11, 2019 5:00 pm

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Andsed wrote:I want you to give me one good reason why the government should force people to follow parts of their religion they don't want to follow.

Why? My good reasons won't convince you either way. But i coudl ask you this question: why should i be forvdd to follow parts of American law I don't want to follow?


If you don't want to follow the law, you are welcome to leave the country.
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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Mon Feb 11, 2019 5:01 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Andsed wrote:I want you to give me one good reason why the government should force people to follow parts of their religion they don't want to follow.

Why? My good reasons won't convince you either way. But i coudl ask you this question: why should i be forvdd to follow parts of American law I don't want to follow?

Why should gay people be punished because of religion?
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Postby New haven america » Mon Feb 11, 2019 5:01 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Andsed wrote:And how exactly do you plan on identifying peoples religion?

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:I guess asking. Or some kind of way to find someone's religious identification. I wanna say some kind of physical identification.

Andsed wrote:Also can you please address this:

What do you want me to say? It's an opinion.

How about giving us some groundwork on how the terrible idea you keep spamming would work? Or why the government should force people to follow religious law? Or what constitutes a religion in this society (For example, I could create my own religion that says I get to do whatever I want without repercussions, and under this system, I would be forced to follow it)?
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Mon Feb 11, 2019 5:01 pm

Vassenor wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Why? My good reasons won't convince you either way. But i coudl ask you this question: why should i be forvdd to follow parts of American law I don't want to follow?


If you don't want to follow the law, you are welcome to leave the country.

Same goes for religious laws: If you don't want to follow them you are welcome to leave the religion.
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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Mon Feb 11, 2019 5:02 pm

Kannap wrote:Is this a thread about El-Amin Caliphate's religion or a thread about Tennessee and same sex marriage?

Every thread with Amin is about his religion
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Mon Feb 11, 2019 5:02 pm

Internationalist Bastard wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Why? My good reasons won't convince you either way. But i coudl ask you this question: why should i be forvdd to follow parts of American law I don't want to follow?

Why should gay people be punished because of religion?

Which religion does said gay person adhere to? Does said gay person adhere to a a religion?
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Postby Vassenor » Mon Feb 11, 2019 5:02 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
If you don't want to follow the law, you are welcome to leave the country.

Same goes for religious laws: If you don't want to follow them you are welcome to leave the religion.


Except the state is not there to enforce religious law.
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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Mon Feb 11, 2019 5:02 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
If you don't want to follow the law, you are welcome to leave the country.

Same goes for religious laws: If you don't want to follow them you are welcome to leave the religion.

Which is precisely what leaves it unenforceable without apostasy laws
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Mon Feb 11, 2019 5:02 pm

Internationalist Bastard wrote:
Kannap wrote:Is this a thread about El-Amin Caliphate's religion or a thread about Tennessee and same sex marriage?

Every thread with Amin is about his religion

I haven't said anything much about my religion.
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Postby New haven america » Mon Feb 11, 2019 5:03 pm

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El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Why? My good reasons won't convince you either way. But i coudl ask you this question: why should i be forvdd to follow parts of American law I don't want to follow?

Why should gay people be punished because of religion?

Because the Bible says so.

Keep in mind though that homosexuality is only mentioned like, maybe twice in the NT. Most of what people have against homosexuality is in the OT, which Christians aren't supposed to follow.
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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Mon Feb 11, 2019 5:03 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Internationalist Bastard wrote:Why should gay people be punished because of religion?

Which religion does said gay person adhere to? Does said gay person adhere to a a religion?

I don’t imagine they would adhere to one that enforced beating them for living
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Postby British Tackeettlaus » Mon Feb 11, 2019 5:04 pm

If you don't like gay marriage, don't get gay married.

If you want to stop other people doing something that does not affect you in any way, grow the hell up.

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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Mon Feb 11, 2019 5:05 pm

British Tackeettlaus wrote:If you don't like gay marriage, don't get gay married.

If you want to stop other people doing something that does not affect you in any way, grow the hell up.

But you see that angers people that just can’t stand two consenting adults having a romantic relationship
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Mon Feb 11, 2019 5:05 pm

Vassenor wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Same goes for religious laws: If you don't want to follow them you are welcome to leave the religion.


Except the state is not there to enforce religious law.

Which state are you taking about?
Internationalist Bastard wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Which religion does said gay person adhere to? Does said gay person adhere to a a religion?

I don’t imagine they would adhere to one that enforced beating them for living

Well if they don't adhere to that religion then they can do whatever.
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El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Andsed wrote:I want you to give me one good reason why the government should force people to follow parts of their religion they don't want to follow.

Why? My good reasons won't convince you either way. But i coudl ask you this question: why should i be forvdd to follow parts of American law I don't want to follow?


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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Mon Feb 11, 2019 5:07 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
Except the state is not there to enforce religious law.

Which state are you taking about?
Internationalist Bastard wrote:I don’t imagine they would adhere to one that enforced beating them for living

Well if they don't adhere to that religion then they can do whatever.

Precisely meaning that if someone in your system was from a Muslim family and went to the Mosque regularly and they were ousted as gay they can just say they aren’t really Muslim
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Postby Andsed » Mon Feb 11, 2019 5:07 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
Except the state is not there to enforce religious law.

Which state are you taking about?
Internationalist Bastard wrote:I don’t imagine they would adhere to one that enforced beating them for living

Well if they don't adhere to that religion then they can do whatever.

All states because no state should be forcing people to follow parts of their religion they don't want to.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Mon Feb 11, 2019 5:07 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Internationalist Bastard wrote:Why should gay people be punished because of religion?

Which religion does said gay person adhere to? Does said gay person adhere to a a religion?


Whether or not said person adheres is not your concern.
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Mon Feb 11, 2019 5:09 pm

Internationalist Bastard wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Which state are you taking about?

Well if they don't adhere to that religion then they can do whatever.

Precisely meaning that if someone in your system was from a Muslim family and went to the Mosque regularly and they were ousted as gay they can just say they aren’t really Muslim

Or not do any homosexual acts.
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Postby Trollzyn the Infinite » Mon Feb 11, 2019 5:09 pm

Andsed wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Which state are you taking about?

Well if they don't adhere to that religion then they can do whatever.

All states because no state should be forcing people to follow parts of their religion they don't want to.


No state should involve itself in religion at all. Every time it does we just get holy wars or the persecution of religious minorities (or more rarely, all religions)
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El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
Except the state is not there to enforce religious law.

Which state are you taking about?
Internationalist Bastard wrote:I don’t imagine they would adhere to one that enforced beating them for living

Well if they don't adhere to that religion then they can do whatever.


The state as a generic entity.
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Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
Andsed wrote:All states because no state should be forcing people to follow parts of their religion they don't want to.


No state should involve itself in religion at all. Every time it does we just get holy wars or the persecution of religious minorities (or more rarely, all religions)

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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Mon Feb 11, 2019 5:10 pm

Vassenor wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Which state are you taking about?

Well if they don't adhere to that religion then they can do whatever.


The state as a generic entity.

>"the state is not there to enforce religious law"
So you're making an opinion?
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