Hypothetical Re: Witch Queen Annie – The Remake

[The Huskar Social Union]

and its been edited, it the Kalmar Union now

thanks Ifreann

by the way, how do you know so much about Scandanavian history? first animals and now this? you're a very knowledgeable Irish...

1. Paradox grand strategy games.
2. The Internet
3. History.

[The New California Republic]

No. Scotland in general isn't neutral as far as England is concerned. I'd imagine that in this scenario that they would pick a side too.

but if they side with Annie then can England still win?

or would they rather side with their fellow "Great Britain"-ers?

I'm on the fence. I sincerely doubt that they would side with England in the 15th century unless there was some alternate history involved; but I also doubt that they would side with Norway either, as to my knowledge there wasn't really any love between Scotland and Norway at that time.

Maybe for the sake of brevity we should leave Scotland out of this after all.

[Heloin]

Scotland and England have been practical rivals up until the Act of Union in 1707

This is a fantasy version though, hence why I was asking if things like that would be different.

You'd be independent and ruled by 5 James' in a row.

The Kalmar Union was the personal union of the thrones of Denmark, Sweden, and Norway. From the late 14th to early 16th Century, though not entirely continuously, they were ruled by the same monarch. Norway didn't get their own monarch until 1905.

oh

very interesting; I had no idea such a thing existed at all

could the Kalmar Union defeat England if it invaded with a Witch Queen? maybe I should change it up to reflect that

or would it be too imbalanced because they would outnumber England by too much?

The Kalmar Union was barely united at it's best so their odds aren't look good.

[Infected Mushroom]

so you think both the King and the ICJ are too merciful?

In these kinds of stories the evil all powerful witch woman person always gets released some point down the line and gets their powers back, so in order to prevent Psycho Witch Queen round 2: magical slaughter boogaloo the rebooglalooing i am definitely saying they are being too merciful, lop her head off or riddle her with crossbow bolts. Rebuild the country and move on.

but she's an unarmed woman now

is this acceptable?

I mean, how does it look if within days of achieving his new status, the Protector of the Realm walks in and shoots her down while she's in a dungeon cell?

[Alvecia]

Sounds like a good plot for a book series.

You should work on that, OP.

It'd probably end up being a "choose your own adventure" where the reader ultimately has to choose between killing someone or handing them over to a higher authority

[Infected Mushroom]

This is a fantasy version though, hence why I was asking if things like that would be different.

You'd be independent and ruled by 5 James' in a row.

oh

very interesting; I had no idea such a thing existed at all

could the Kalmar Union defeat England if it invaded with a Witch Queen? maybe I should change it up to reflect that

or would it be too imbalanced because they would outnumber England by too much?

The Kalmar Union was barely united at it's best so their odds aren't look good.

I see...

well I guess its balanced since its the 15th century logistics etc is really bad (so invading England was highly risky anyways) and England was more of a world power

so I guess with Annie at the helm to change the odds, it plays out about the same

i've edited it to the Kalmar Union, are the people known as the Kalmars?

[Free Arabian Nation]

and its been edited, it the Kalmar Union now

thanks Ifreann

by the way, how do you know so much about Scandanavian history? first animals and now this? you're a very knowledgeable Irish...

1. Paradox grand strategy games.
2. The Internet
3. History.

Yes, Paradox is a totally accurate history simulator

[The New California Republic]

Sounds like a good plot for a book series.

You should work on that, OP.

It'd probably end up being a "choose your own adventure" where the reader ultimately has to choose between killing someone or handing them over to a higher authority

If you keep your finger in the page then it doesn't count as a choice.

[Heloin]

well, let me just change it to the Kalmar Union then... it sounds much more powerful and intimidating on paper

I've never read a more perfect description of the real Kalmar Union

[Ifreann]

Scotland and England have been practical rivals up until the Act of Union in 1707

Implying we aren’t anymore....

England has a lot of rivals. The Six Nations is pretty much England, their historical rivals, and also Italy.

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The Kalmar Union was the personal union of the thrones of Denmark, Sweden, and Norway. From the late 14th to early 16th Century, though not entirely continuously, they were ruled by the same monarch. Norway didn't get their own monarch until 1905.

oh

very interesting; I had no idea such a thing existed at all

could the Kalmar Union defeat England if it invaded with a Witch Queen? maybe I should change it up to reflect that

or would it be too imbalanced because they would outnumber England by too much?

If they'd invaded during the War of the Roses they could certainly have caught England with its pants down.

England had a civil war during the 15th century, you see. Pretty big deal, it's partially what Game of Thrones is based on.

[Free Arabian Nation]

In these kinds of stories the evil all powerful witch woman person always gets released some point down the line and gets their powers back, so in order to prevent Psycho Witch Queen round 2: magical slaughter boogaloo the rebooglalooing i am definitely saying they are being too merciful, lop her head off or riddle her with crossbow bolts. Rebuild the country and move on.

but she's an unarmed woman now

is this acceptable?

She killed a lot of Englishmen, didn't she?...

No wait, that's a good thing. NVM, drop all charges

[The Huskar Social Union]

In these kinds of stories the evil all powerful witch woman person always gets released some point down the line and gets their powers back, so in order to prevent Psycho Witch Queen round 2: magical slaughter boogaloo the rebooglalooing i am definitely saying they are being too merciful, lop her head off or riddle her with crossbow bolts. Rebuild the country and move on.

but she's an unarmed woman now

is this acceptable?

I mean, how does it look if within days of achieving his new status, the Protector of the Realm walks in and shoots her down while she's in a dungeon cell?

She was a tyrant and killed a fuck ton of people and burnt down a bunch of towns and villages. This is the middle ages, if Henry VIII could get away with executing two of his wives, ill get her ded.

Also you literally said in the OP that the English people want revenge. Ill rock up to them and go "Yo, its your Irish Protector of the Realm. Gona shoot this bitch for all the crimes she did, we good? Yeah we good"

[The Huskar Social Union]

1. Paradox grand strategy games.
2. The Internet
3. History.

Yes, Paradox is a totally accurate history simulator

Dont know what you are talking about. I remember the Ascension of Ulm as a global super power from 1798-1821.

[Heloin]

1. Paradox grand strategy games.
2. The Internet
3. History.

Yes, Paradox is a totally accurate history simulator

History at it's finest.

[Free Arabian Nation]

Yes, Paradox is a totally accurate history simulator

Dont know what you are talking about. I remember the Ascension of Ulm as a global super power from 1798-1821.

Of course, I was just giving evidence about how accurate it is.

[The Blaatschapen]

1. Paradox grand strategy games.
2. The Internet
3. History.

Yes, Paradox is a totally accurate history simulator

EU2 has a great list of events and a few mods with even more events.

Though I would not use paradox games for actually simulating history. It has not nearly enough domestic political simulation (despite rebels, estates and civil war options).

[Infected Mushroom]

but she's an unarmed woman now

is this acceptable?

I mean, how does it look if within days of achieving his new status, the Protector of the Realm walks in and shoots her down while she's in a dungeon cell?

She was a tyrant and killed a fuck ton of people and burnt down a bunch of towns and villages. This is the middle ages, if Henry VIII could get away with executing two of his wives, ill get her ded.

Also you literally said in the OP that the English people want revenge. Ill rock up to them and go "Yo, its your Irish Protector of the Realm. Gona shoot this bitch for all the crimes she did, we good? Yeah we good"

Okay

Well it’s allowed. I mean it’s an interesting loophole to the scenario on paper you keep the King’s sentence but you invoke personal honor/right of vengeance to kill her

I just think it’s a bit, excessive

[Free Arabian Nation]

IM, you seem to be highly apologetic of this genocidal maniac

Is this secretly some weird Self-Insert fan fic?

[The Huskar Social Union]

IM, you seem to be highly apologetic of this genocidal maniac

Is this secretly some weird Self-Insert fan fic?

Well to be fair who doesnt want bang a witch queen. Thats got to be something.

[Ifreann]

and its been edited, it the Kalmar Union now

thanks Ifreann

by the way, how do you know so much about Scandanavian history? first animals and now this? you're a very knowledgeable Irish...

1. Paradox grand strategy games.
2. The Internet
3. History.

Yep.

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1. Paradox grand strategy games.
2. The Internet
3. History.

Yes, Paradox is a totally accurate history simulator

What time is it?
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IT'S ULM TIME

[The Huskar Social Union]

She was a tyrant and killed a fuck ton of people and burnt down a bunch of towns and villages. This is the middle ages, if Henry VIII could get away with executing two of his wives, ill get her ded.

Also you literally said in the OP that the English people want revenge. Ill rock up to them and go "Yo, its your Irish Protector of the Realm. Gona shoot this bitch for all the crimes she did, we good? Yeah we good"

Okay

Well it’s allowed. I mean it’s an interesting loophole to the scenario on paper you keep the King’s sentence but you invoke personal honor/right of vengeance to kill her

I just think it’s a bit, excessive

Justice. Also highly realistic for the setting. Again, if people were alright with Henry VIII axing two of his wives, people are going to be lining up to chop the head off of a tyrannical queen with magical powers who killed a ton of people.

[The New California Republic]

I realise I haven't actually responded to the scenario yet, but it's because I'm being a sneaky bastard by posting while at work, so long replies are out of the question just now. I'll post when I finish work though.

[The Huskar Social Union]

I realise I haven't actually responded to the scenario yet, but it's because I'm being a sneaky bastard by posting while at work, so long replies are out of the question just now. I'll post when I finish work though.

JOHNSON GET IN MY FUCKING OFFICE NOW

[Heloin]

She was a tyrant and killed a fuck ton of people and burnt down a bunch of towns and villages. This is the middle ages, if Henry VIII could get away with executing two of his wives, ill get her ded.

Also you literally said in the OP that the English people want revenge. Ill rock up to them and go "Yo, its your Irish Protector of the Realm. Gona shoot this bitch for all the crimes she did, we good? Yeah we good"

Okay

Well it’s allowed. I mean it’s an interesting loophole to the scenario on paper you keep the King’s sentence but you invoke personal honor/right of vengeance to kill her

I just think it’s a bit, excessive

No that's nice. This is the 15th century, her actual punishment would probably be her being hung drawn and quartered while everyone says she was sent by the devil and throws shit at her.

[Infected Mushroom]

Okay

Well it’s allowed. I mean it’s an interesting loophole to the scenario on paper you keep the King’s sentence but you invoke personal honor/right of vengeance to kill her

I just think it’s a bit, excessive

No that's nice. This is the 15th century, her actual punishment would probably be her being hung drawn and quartered while everyone says she was sent by the devil and throws shit at her.

I think I read somewhere that in England only men could be hung drawn and quartered. I might be wrong but I think burning at the stake is as high as it goes for women. There was a degree of “sexism”