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Postby Ifreann » Tue Feb 19, 2019 11:43 am

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Ifreann wrote:Ban rich people.

Ban poor people. They don't even put much money in the economy.

Money is a sign of poverty.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Tue Feb 19, 2019 11:44 am

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Petrolheadia wrote:Have you ever considered what the property tax might be on these things? How much rich people pay in income taxes, CGT, etc? How much people involved in fullfilling their demands pay in taxes?

So why not build only these kind of towers because it makes more money for the city?


You are aware there is a huge budget hole developing in the city and state now.

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Postby Petrolheadia » Tue Feb 19, 2019 11:44 am

Ifreann wrote:
Petrolheadia wrote:Ban poor people. They don't even put much money in the economy.

Money is a sign of poverty.

If the world works by opposites, then what you said is a very intelligent statememt, totally not worth of being on r/iam14andthisisdeep.

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Petrolheadia wrote:Have you ever considered what the property tax might be on these things? How much rich people pay in income taxes, CGT, etc? How much people involved in fullfilling their demands pay in taxes?

So why not build only these kind of towers because it makes more money for the city?

Because there aren't that many buyers for them.
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Postby Thermodolia » Tue Feb 19, 2019 11:45 am

San Lumen wrote:
Petrolheadia wrote:Have you ever considered what the property tax might be on these things? How much rich people pay in income taxes, CGT, etc? How much people involved in fullfilling their demands pay in taxes?

So why not build only these kind of towers because it makes more money for the city?

Why do you keep repeating yourself?
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Postby Hammer Britannia » Tue Feb 19, 2019 11:45 am

San Lumen wrote:
Petrolheadia wrote:Have you ever considered what the property tax might be on these things? How much rich people pay in income taxes, CGT, etc? How much people involved in fullfilling their demands pay in taxes?

So why not build only these kind of towers because it makes more money for the city?

Because these towers don't pop out of nowhere overnight? They are made by rich people and their cronies for rich people. Building thousands of these towers would be a financial drain.
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Postby San Lumen » Tue Feb 19, 2019 11:46 am

Hammer Britannia wrote:
San Lumen wrote:So why not build only these kind of towers because it makes more money for the city?

Because these towers don't pop out of nowhere overnight? They are made by rich people and their cronies for rich people. Building thousands of these towers would be a financial drain.

Why not just stop them from building them?

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Postby Hammer Britannia » Tue Feb 19, 2019 11:46 am

Thermodolia wrote:
San Lumen wrote:So why not build only these kind of towers because it makes more money for the city?

Why do you keep repeating yourself?

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Postby Petrolheadia » Tue Feb 19, 2019 11:47 am

San Lumen wrote:
Hammer Britannia wrote:Because these towers don't pop out of nowhere overnight? They are made by rich people and their cronies for rich people. Building thousands of these towers would be a financial drain.

Why not just stop them from building them?

Why? Why? WHY? POR QUE? PO JAKĄ CHOLERĘ?
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Postby Tornado Queendom » Tue Feb 19, 2019 11:47 am

San Lumen wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2019/feb/05/super-tall-super-skinny-super-expensive-the-pencil-towers-of-new-yorks-super-rich

A new trend in NYC is for uber rich people to buy up literal airspace to build ugly pencil like towers for apartments they will never live in. Its a investment nothing more. There is a housing shortage in the city and officials have the nerve to wonder why? Fix the loophole in the law that allows this and build only affordable housing.

Housing should not be a privilege only the rich can afford. They should fix the law and stop construction of these luxury towers and tear these eyesores down.

Let these rich people build mansions instead how about a novel idea of them not having investments at the expense of everyone to flaunt their wealth?

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Postby Novus America » Tue Feb 19, 2019 11:48 am

San Lumen wrote:
Des-Bal wrote:
What do you... What? Do you think they're building these things as a fucking joke? Like "teehee I did a massive construction project and now I renounce all ownership of it?"

I want housing for the average citizen not buildings for the obscenely wealthy to park their wealth


You still struggle with the concept of mutual exclusivity, or in this case the lack of it.
You can have both.

You can use tax on the latter to fund the former.
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Postby Hammer Britannia » Tue Feb 19, 2019 11:48 am

San Lumen wrote:
Hammer Britannia wrote:Because these towers don't pop out of nowhere overnight? They are made by rich people and their cronies for rich people. Building thousands of these towers would be a financial drain.

Why not just stop them from building them?

Because controlling where stupid people put their money is just as stupid? Για όνομα του Θεού
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Postby Salcanceacy » Tue Feb 19, 2019 11:49 am

So by buying air space, does that mean I can charge people for breathing in my air?
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Postby Hammer Britannia » Tue Feb 19, 2019 11:50 am

Salcanceacy wrote:So by buying air space, does that mean I can charge people for breathing in my air?

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Postby Des-Bal » Tue Feb 19, 2019 11:54 am

Des-Bal wrote:[full list redacted]
I want you to acknowledge that you've said the same thing eight times and you've been answered eight times.

San Lumen wrote:So why not build only these kind of towers because it makes more money for the city?


Nine times. You have asked that question nine times. This is legitimately disturbing.
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Postby Ifreann » Tue Feb 19, 2019 11:55 am

Petrolheadia wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Money is a sign of poverty.

If the world works by opposites, then what you said is a very intelligent statememt, totally not worth of being on r/iam14andthisisdeep.

Keep thinking about it, you'll get it eventually.
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Postby Petrolheadia » Tue Feb 19, 2019 11:56 am

Ifreann wrote:
Petrolheadia wrote:If the world works by opposites, then what you said is a very intelligent statememt, totally not worth of being on r/iam14andthisisdeep.

Keep thinking about it, you'll get it eventually.

I would get down to that level, but I don't have any digging tools, so can you explain?
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Postby Novus America » Tue Feb 19, 2019 11:56 am

San Lumen wrote:
Hammer Britannia wrote:Because these towers don't pop out of nowhere overnight? They are made by rich people and their cronies for rich people. Building thousands of these towers would be a financial drain.

Why not just stop them from building them?


Because that accomplishes nothing, and causes a loss of tax revenue.
Seriously we have been over this how many times?

This is like saying we should ban solar power because nuclear power is better.
Sure nuclear power is indeed better in most respects, but banning solar will not cause more nuclear power to magically appear in its place.
Rather banning solar would just result in more pollution from coal and gas.
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Postby Hammer Britannia » Tue Feb 19, 2019 11:57 am

Des-Bal wrote:
Des-Bal wrote:[full list redacted]
I want you to acknowledge that you've said the same thing eight times and you've been answered eight times.

San Lumen wrote:So why not build only these kind of towers because it makes more money for the city?


Nine times. You have asked that question nine times. This is legitimately disturbing.

Dementia maybe?

Or perhaps they realize their argument is dumb and so they're parroting old arguments until we surrender
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Postby Big Jim P » Sat Feb 23, 2019 5:21 am

Hammer Britannia wrote:
Des-Bal wrote:

Nine times. You have asked that question nine times. This is legitimately disturbing.

Dementia maybe?

Or perhaps they realize their argument is dumb and so they're parroting old arguments until we surrender


Surrender? Does he know how long General has been known to flog certain dead horses with no sign of surrender on either side? :rofl:
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