Buying Airspace?

[Saiwania]

It wouldn’t be so expensive if buildings like this were illegal

Do we know this for sure, however? It isn't like these buildings are being built for no reason. It costs more in maintenance and utilities to keep an existing building vacant. There are apparently wealthy types from overseas or from other places in the US that're able to pay NYC rents or for NYC real estate. NYC is a massive international city that is the US financial center, trading hub, etc. which is flush with cash; so of course it is more expensive to live there.

[Bear Stearns]

More like not wasting taxpayer money.

Why should a carpenter in Albany pay his state taxes so some stubborn arsehole in Midtown gets protection from being moved away to places he can actually afford?

So in others words the government should get to decide who lives where?

The exact opposite actually.

[Wunderstrafanstalt]

And it takes away land area for the average citizen

What average citizen can afford to buy Manhattan real estate?

The average citizens all live in the suburbs.

Because cheap flats fall down from the sky

[Trumptonium1]

More like not wasting taxpayer money.

Why should a carpenter in Albany pay his state taxes so some stubborn arsehole in Midtown gets protection from being moved away to places he can actually afford?

So in others words the government should get to decide who lives where?

No, the market does. The government simply says if you can't afford to live in a villa in Hollywood between Adele and Beckham, it won't support you in your endeavour because your personal wishes have less value than respecting the rights of taxpayers and other ordinary citizens who don't get the same privilege.

So turn NYC into a cesspit like it was in 1970s round two?

Banning ugly towers like this would not bring a return to that by a long shot

You're saying the rich should go away. That's what 1970s New York was. A complete cesspit devoid of anyone with an income more than slightly above national average. Place literally had blackouts and a bankruptcy.

[Bear Stearns]

We could conquer some tropical island nation and send all homeless people there and provide them with monthly food and equipment supplies, and it'd still be cheaper than our current welfare state.

But it will bloat the defense budget and strengthen the military-industrial complex since we tropical islanders will try to kick them out

What about an uninhabited island?

[Grinning Dragon]

Look at San Francisco

A city wrecked by anti-development policies and zoning laws.

Also it doesn't help the ultra-progressive government has a tolerance for sidewalking defecation and shooting galleries.

Along with using the sidewalk, street, gutter, etc., as a syringe disposal.

[Bear Stearns]

What average citizen can afford to buy Manhattan real estate?

The average citizens all live in the suburbs.

Because cheap flats fall down from the sky

Cheap flats are easy to come by...in cheap locations.

[San Lumen]

It wouldn’t be so expensive if buildings like this were illegal

Do we know this for sure, however? It isn't like these buildings are being built for no reason. It costs more in maintenance and utilities to keep an existing building vacant. There are apparently wealthy types from overseas or from other places in the US that're able to pay NYC rents or for NYC real estate. NYC is a massive international city that is the US financial center, trading hub, etc. which is flush with cash; so of course it is more expensive to live there.

No one is living in these eyesores. They are for the Uber rich to flaunt their wealth. No one lives in most of them. Real estate should not be a investment to the detriment of everyone else

[Bear Stearns]

A city wrecked by anti-development policies and zoning laws.

Also it doesn't help the ultra-progressive government has a tolerance for sidewalking defecation and shooting galleries.

Along with using the sidewalk, street, gutter, etc., as a syringe disposal.

That's what shooting galleries are haha

[Trumptonium1]

And it takes away land area for the average citizen

What average citizen can afford to buy Manhattan real estate?

The average citizens all live in the suburbs.

Well if you include San Lumen's plans of government subsidies for the physical redistribution of the poor across America's wealthiest zip codes, virtually any.

[Bear Stearns]

Do we know this for sure, however? It isn't like these buildings are being built for no reason. It costs more in maintenance and utilities to keep an existing building vacant. There are apparently wealthy types from overseas or from other places in the US that're able to pay NYC rents or for NYC real estate. NYC is a massive international city that is the US financial center, trading hub, etc. which is flush with cash; so of course it is more expensive to live there.

No one is living in these eyesores. They are for the Uber rich to flaunt their wealth. No one lives in most of them. Real estate should not be a investment to the detriment of everyone else

1) How does "flaunting" wealth have any effect on you?
2) How do these buildings negatively impact "everyone else"?

[Grinning Dragon]

Along with using the sidewalk, street, gutter, etc., as a syringe disposal.

That's what shooting galleries are haha

Oh,
I assumed you meant people getting shot, like here in NOLA

[Neutraligon]

Do we know this for sure, however? It isn't like these buildings are being built for no reason. It costs more in maintenance and utilities to keep an existing building vacant. There are apparently wealthy types from overseas or from other places in the US that're able to pay NYC rents or for NYC real estate. NYC is a massive international city that is the US financial center, trading hub, etc. which is flush with cash; so of course it is more expensive to live there.

No one is living in these eyesores. They are for the Uber rich to flaunt their wealth. No one lives in most of them. Real estate should not be a investment to the detriment of everyone else

San Lumen, the place those towers stand in are already some of the most expensive real estate in the City. The poor would not be able to buy anything there, no matter what.

[San Lumen]

So in others words the government should get to decide who lives where?

No, the market does. The government simply says if you can't afford to live in a villa in Hollywood between Adele and Beckham, it won't support you in your endeavour because your personal wishes have less value than respecting the rights of taxpayers and other ordinary citizens who don't get the same privilege.

Banning ugly towers like this would not bring a return to that by a long shot

You're saying the rich should go away. That's what 1970s New York was. A complete cesspit devoid of anyone with an income more than slightly above national average. Place literally had blackouts and a bankruptcy.

So why not just make all housing something only the rich can afford it’s more profitable after all

[Wunderstrafanstalt]

What about an uninhabited island?

That wouldn't really be sustainable. Still, cheaper than trying to make the poorer people to live next to Trump Tower.

[San Lumen]

No one is living in these eyesores. They are for the Uber rich to flaunt their wealth. No one lives in most of them. Real estate should not be a investment to the detriment of everyone else

1) How does "flaunting" wealth have any effect on you?
2) How do these buildings negatively impact "everyone else"?

Runing the skyline and views and casting shadows on other buildings

[Bear Stearns]

What average citizen can afford to buy Manhattan real estate?

The average citizens all live in the suburbs.

Well if you include San Lumen's plans of government subsidies for the physical redistribution of the poor across America's wealthiest zip codes, virtually any.

I pay good money for my apartment in a good neighborhood.

I'd be pretty upset if someone got the same place I had, but subsidized by the government.

[San Lumen]

And it takes away land area for the average citizen

What average citizen can afford to buy Manhattan real estate?

The average citizens all live in the suburbs.

That it simply not true. Young people are leaving suburbs for cities

[Bear Stearns]

1) How does "flaunting" wealth have any effect on you?
2) How do these buildings negatively impact "everyone else"?

Runing the skyline and views and casting shadows on other buildings

Your opinions on the skyline are subjective and really don't matter.

Your shadow argument might have merit, if it weren't a moving of the goalpost.

[San Lumen]

Well if you include San Lumen's plans of government subsidies for the physical redistribution of the poor across America's wealthiest zip codes, virtually any.

I pay good money for my apartment in a good neighborhood.

I'd be pretty upset if someone got the same place I had, but subsidized by the government.

No one said anything about subsidies merely banning eyesores like those described in the article in OP

[Bear Stearns]

I pay good money for my apartment in a good neighborhood.

I'd be pretty upset if someone got the same place I had, but subsidized by the government.

No one said anything about subsidies merely banning eyesores like those described in the article in OP

What if other people don't consider them to be eyesores and actually don't care too much about the way they look?

What will you do then? Tell them your opinion is right and they are wrong?

[San Lumen]

No one is living in these eyesores. They are for the Uber rich to flaunt their wealth. No one lives in most of them. Real estate should not be a investment to the detriment of everyone else

San Lumen, the place those towers stand in are already some of the most expensive real estate in the City. The poor would not be able to buy anything there, no matter what.

There are going up almost everywhere. Pretty soon NyC will be a gated community for only the super rich like San Francisco

[Wunderstrafanstalt]

I pay good money for my apartment in a good neighborhood.

I'd be pretty upset if someone got the same place I had, but subsidized by the government.

No one said anything about subsidies merely banning eyesores like those described in the article in OP

And what will we get in return for that??

[San Lumen]

No one said anything about subsidies merely banning eyesores like those described in the article in OP

What if other people don't consider them to be eyesores and actually don't care too much about the way they look?

What will you do then? Tell them your opinion is right and they are wrong?

If I was mayor I’d fix the loophole that allows them to be built, seize the property and tear them down

[San Lumen]

No one said anything about subsidies merely banning eyesores like those described in the article in OP

And what will we get in return for that??

Everyone being able to afford living in a city