Fast Collapse Scenario: What nation would you want to be in

[The Austrian Peoples Republic]

I'd hide in Lichtenstein. They're really stable and economically independent.

You mean the New Swiss Provinces of Tyrol?

And they are very much economically dependent.

Then the Wikipedia article I read like 3 years ago and I vaguely remember lied to me!

[Yagon]

The leader where I live is one of those higher ups.

Then hope everything collapses fast enough that they can't scapegoat anyone, and pray to god you aren't the scapegoat otherwise.

Maybe he'll happen to be there on vacation when it all goes down, so he's allowed to stay although monitored as the Operation Fortress Switzerland thing leaves them watching as the skies darken.

Fun Fact! The President of the Swiss Confederation has a button the blows up all mountain passes into Switzerland.

And maybe mountain bunkers full of rare earth metals for electronics manufacture, state of the art 3D printer tech, agents all over the world ready to pounce.

Chocolate. Precisely and fashionably telling time. Holding the money while a pub full of fools kill one another over rigged games. Conquering the world.

Being Swiss: Priceless.

[Heloin]

Then hope everything collapses fast enough that they can't scapegoat anyone, and pray to god you aren't the scapegoat otherwise.


Fun Fact! The President of the Swiss Confederation has a button the blows up all mountain passes into Switzerland.

And maybe mountain bunkers full of rare earth metals for electronics manufacture, state of the art 3D printer tech, agents all over the world ready to pounce.

Chocolate. Precisely and fashionably telling time. Holding the money while a pub full of fools kill one another over rigged games. Conquering the world.

Being Swiss: Priceless.

Yet all it will get them is more Cuckoo Clocks.

[Yagon]

Yet all it will get them is more Cuckoo Clocks.

As the rest of the world descends into savagery, they'll teach math and literature in four languages as their biotech people finalize a plague to release on the rest of the world that only their own (chosen) are inoculated from.

The future...is frilly poofy limbed halberdsmen.

[Esternial]

I think deep down most people recognize in these situations that things are going to turn rather racial.

Even if you're an "anti-racist", you'd probably still get murdered by the other tribe when they come to pillage you.

That is problematic for me, I have no tribe. That said, I believe you.

Given what you describe, what nation would you most likely want to be in?

I have a tribe.

My company uses the Agile methodology.

[Mystic Warriors]

I'll stay in the US. Maybe carve out my own socialist utopia in Montana or somewhere up there.

[Big Jim P]

I'd stay where I am at, although being almost dead center between multiple large population centers means I would likely have to deal with a lot of refugees.

[Auze]

Oh, I know this one.
The answer's always Switzerland.

[Ethel mermania]

Some tropical island with a fresh water supply.


Or just do the hookers and cocaine scenario till the end.

[Trumptonium1]

Ukraine. Abundance of land and an agricultural breadbasket.

Although if we assume the ethnic warfare/tribalism route, pretty much everyone would choose their place of birth.

But NZ and Switzerland aren't a bad idea.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Right where I'm at in the US. I live in the country, have copious amounts of weaponry, lotsa water readily available, I'm planning on getting into growing food this year and I like MRE's and canned foods. Going elsewhere would arguably lower my chances quite a bit.

[Far Easter Republic]

Switzerland. Safe in the mountains away from all activity. I would stay away from Bosnia and Kosovo, there it be all out war between Serbs and Croats, Bosnian Muslims(Croats and Bosnian Muslims would be taking it at each other) in Bosnia, and war between Serbs and Albanians in Kosovo. Probably a Greco-Albanian War too. Also I'm guessing the Middle East gets razed even more in this scenario.

Suppose Switzerland's mountain guarded her faithful as ever. Does she have the arable land and agricultural infrastructure to feed herself?

Yep.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

I'd want to be in Saudi Arabia so I could afford going on Hajj. And I feel like I'd be a better Muslim since there's other Muslims around me. That, And it'd be nice to be around a lot of Muslims.

[The Austrian Peoples Republic]

Well the middle east would probably be way more unstable that it is today, just saying.

Saudi Arabia could possibly even split back into Najd and Jabal Shamarr.

[The South Falls]

Switzerland. So that I could hunker in a bunker with some food and fuel.

[Major-Tom]

I feasibly wouldn't have the resources to even leave the US in this scenario, except maybe I could drive to Mexico, doesn't take too long from AZ.

But, I guess I can choose just about anyplace in this hypothetical, so, maybe I'd fuck off to some monastery in Bhutan or some shit, maybe hunker down in the Andes Mountains, who knows.

Honestly though, with the resources I do have, in this scenario I feel like I'd do alright in a cabin deep within the Mogollon Rim of Northern AZ.

[The Galactic Liberal Democracy]

I’d want to be in Antarctica or New Zealand. The second is like Australia I’m guessing but less dangerous.

[Neue Coolidge]

Somewhere in the middle of Indiana. some rural part

[Panem and Circensis]

Cuba. They are not necessarily self-reliant, but they rely on the global market to a lesser extent.

After the 30 years, the communists shall rise!

[Dogmeat]

I'm happy to be in any post apocalyptic wasteland, provided there's someone with a blue jumpsuit around.

[Yagon]

I feasibly wouldn't have the resources to even leave the US in this scenario, except maybe I could drive to Mexico, doesn't take too long from AZ.

But, I guess I can choose just about anyplace in this hypothetical, so, maybe I'd fuck off to some monastery in Bhutan or some shit, maybe hunker down in the Andes Mountains, who knows.

Honestly though, with the resources I do have, in this scenario I feel like I'd do alright in a cabin deep within the Mogollon Rim of Northern AZ.

There's water in the Mogollon Rim? Or you'd haul in some?

From where at, you've likely heard of Slab City. What do you see their chances as being in this scenario?

[Vetalia]

"I keep telling you, the standardized mileage deduction doesn't do anything for us without receipts, trip logs, substantiation! This is....is the scalp of a guy with a Mohawk and a bloody crossbow bolt you pulled out of your thigh."

"Max, I'm warning you right now as a client and a friend, if we file this as it is and Bartertown pulls this return for audit we are screwed...I mean you're claiming accelerated depreciation for an abandoned truck you found and are trying to write off the Pursuit Special as an extraordinary loss! With these numbers, we're not talking two years in the methane plant, we're talking Thunderdome!"

[Western Vale Confederacy]

The Canadian Shield is my safe haven in any collapse or apocalypse scenario.

[Rio Cana]

For those that choose to live in cold places. How are you going to keep warm, especially in those artic blast scenarios, if gas and oil production has stopped. Cutting down trees to get warm will not really cut it for many.

[Cekoviu]

Tuvalu. It's already the poorest country, you can't get terribly worse from there. Also low population, so riots won't be as large.