New Jersey to Teach LGBT History in Schools

[Kannap]

Yes, but it's easy to use extreme examples like that to try and discredit teaching kids about a current example of marginalisation.

Stop trying to insert your politics everywhere. History is supposed to be about history, period.

Then again it'd probably also result in kids realising why terms like "trap" are problematic as well.

Trap is rather polite albeit familiar word, their contemporaries would have been way cruder and direct than I've been. :^)

History is about history, unless it's LGBT history then its not history. Got it.

[Christian Confederation]

This is why I don't dabate People online

Because we actually expect you to back up what you say with facts rather than just blindly accepting that you are right?

No because y'all always just attack people who have differing views.

I have more important things to do other than this endless pointless argument with you people.

[Neutraligon]

Because we actually expect you to back up what you say with facts rather than just blindly accepting that you are right?

No because y'all always just attack people who have differing views.

I have more important things to do other than this endless pointless argument with you people.

This is a debate forum....if you did not want to debate why did you join this forum? Second, if you think we are flaming report it. Third, asking you to back up your claims, and then pointing out the flaws in your source is not attacking you.

[Karu Nadu]

I have more important things to do other than this endless pointless argument with you people.

Good.
Do them.

[Vassenor]

Because we actually expect you to back up what you say with facts rather than just blindly accepting that you are right?

No because y'all always just attack people who have differing views.

I have more important things to do other than this endless pointless argument with you people.

Cool. Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

[Vassenor]

Yes, but it's easy to use extreme examples like that to try and discredit teaching kids about a current example of marginalisation.

Stop trying to insert your politics everywhere. History is supposed to be about history, period.

Then again it'd probably also result in kids realising why terms like "trap" are problematic as well.

Trap is rather polite albeit familiar word, their contemporaries would have been way cruder and direct than I've been. :^)

So what politics am I inserting that weren't already there?

[Kannap]

When did I ever say that was the only reason I wanted to talk about them?

That's literally what this whole thing is about. Slap some big "that guy was gay" sticker on some historical figure and talk about him for no other reason than that, as if it defined both his personality and accomplishments.

That's not what this whole thing is about at all, but do continue to believe it.

[Kannap]

I do not, no. There are plenty better and more interesting things to focus about.

We learn about the civil rights movement in the 60s, why shouldn't we also learn about the civil rights movement for LGBT people?

Gays are icky.

[Slarvainian]

Because we actually expect you to back up what you say with facts rather than just blindly accepting that you are right?

No because y'all always just attack people who have differing views.

I have more important things to do other than this endless pointless argument with you people.

The reality of disagreement is that the larger the difference in views, the longer the grind. Look at some of sigs on these forums, we have people with radical, fundamental disagreements so if the game isn't for you it's your right to move on. That being said I'd like you to reflect on your position as it appears to us. You've made a claim that extends onto the lives of others and have provided no statistical information to back it up.

[Aellex]

Stop trying to insert your politics everywhere. History is supposed to be about history, period.

Trap is rather polite albeit familiar word, their contemporaries would have been way cruder and direct than I've been. :^)

History is about history, unless it's LGBT history then its not history. Got it.

I mean, apparently they deserve extra special lessons just to talk about them so it appears it's what you must think, yes.

[The South Falls]

Teaching the history of those who are important is paramount, otherwise history is useless.

It really isn't tho. Again, that Sulla liked to get sodomised by a trap should be nothing more than a funny trivia when talking about the proscriptions and the last days of the Republic, not the subject of the whole lesson.

I believe you've misunderstood me. I mean, the gay rights movement. Not necessarily that Sulla liked dick.

[Aellex]

Stop trying to insert your politics everywhere. History is supposed to be about history, period.

Trap is rather polite albeit familiar word, their contemporaries would have been way cruder and direct than I've been. :^)

So what politics am I inserting that weren't already there?

"Muh marginalization 'nz shitz'"
Again, you're just trying to shove your political agenda down children's throats.

[Neutraligon]

History is about history, unless it's LGBT history then its not history. Got it.

I mean, apparently they deserve extra special lessons just to talk about them so it appears it's what you must think, yes.

Once again we learn about the civil rights movement of the 60s, why shouldn't we also learn about the one in the 2000s?

[Kannap]

History is about history, unless it's LGBT history then its not history. Got it.

I mean, apparently they deserve extra special lessons just to talk about them so it appears it's what you must think, yes.

You seem to have misunderstood my sarcastic statement, as well as a grave misunderstanding in what I think.

[LiberNovusAmericae]

I mean, apparently they deserve extra special lessons just to talk about them so it appears it's what you must think, yes.

Once again we learn about the civil rights movement of the 60s, why shouldn't we also learn about the one in the 2000s?

I agree, but just keep over-the-top social justice ideologies out of it though. No progressive stack or anything like that.

[Kannap]

So what politics am I inserting that weren't already there?

"Muh marginalization 'nz shitz'"
Again, you're just trying to shove your political agenda down children's throats.

I had a conservative, heteronormative political agenda attempted to be shoved down my throat when I was a child, was that also wrong?

[Aellex]

It really isn't tho. Again, that Sulla liked to get sodomised by a trap should be nothing more than a funny trivia when talking about the proscriptions and the last days of the Republic, not the subject of the whole lesson.

I believe you've misunderstood me. I mean, the gay rights movement. Not necessarily that Sulla liked dick.

I don't understand how it's "the history of those who are importants" tho. Also, I'm sorry but I'm contractually obligated to repeat that Sulla enjoyed taking it in the arse every time he's mentioned.

[The South Falls]

So what politics am I inserting that weren't already there?

"Muh marginalization 'nz shitz'"
Again, you're just trying to shove your political agenda down children's throats.

I don't think she's trying to say "GAY PEOPLE ARE BEST PEOPLE" because that's inane.

[Kannap]

I mean, apparently they deserve extra special lessons just to talk about them so it appears it's what you must think, yes.

Once again we learn about the civil rights movement of the 60s, why shouldn't we also learn about the one in the 2000s?

Not even just the 2000s. The LGBT civil rights movement started in 1969, roughly around the same time the Civil Rights movement was winding down.

[Pasong Tirad]

Imagine thinking the teaching of history isn't already inherently political. What we put in and what we leave out of the teaching of history are political acts.

[Aellex]

I mean, apparently they deserve extra special lessons just to talk about them so it appears it's what you must think, yes.

You seem to have misunderstood my sarcastic statement, as well as a grave misunderstanding in what I think.

It appears you aren't good at grasping people retorting to sarcasm with sarcasm.

I had a conservative, heteronormative political agenda attempted to be shoved down my throat when I was a child, was that also wrong?

No, it was quite healthy rather.

[Neutraligon]

Once again we learn about the civil rights movement of the 60s, why shouldn't we also learn about the one in the 2000s?

Not even just the 2000s. The LGBT civil rights movement started in 1969, roughly around the same time the Civil Rights movement was winding down.

True.

[Karu Nadu]

"Muh marginalization 'nz shitz'"
Again, you're just trying to shove your political agenda down children's throats.

I don't think she's trying to say "GAY PEOPLE ARE BEST PEOPLE" because that's inane.

(Partly) Sarcasm: "No it isn't!"

[The South Falls]

I believe you've misunderstood me. I mean, the gay rights movement. Not necessarily that Sulla liked dick.

I don't understand how it's "the history of those who are importants" tho. Also, I'm sorry but I'm contractually obligated to repeat that Sulla enjoyed taking it in the arse every time he's mentioned.

I mean teaching things like the Stonewall riots. Those are important to history.

[Valrifell]

So what politics am I inserting that weren't already there?

"Muh marginalization 'nz shitz'"
Again, you're just trying to shove your political agenda down children's throats.

You super can't cover Reagan's administration or the Stonewall riots without mentioning the oppression of the gays. It's like trying to do the March on Washington without mentioning Jim Crow or segregation.