New Jersey to Teach LGBT History in Schools

[Christian Confederation]

Because you learn many things from your mother and father.
In my case my mom and grandfather/ Uncles because my dad left us for his girlfriend.

This forum has been interesting, now if anyone wants my telagram box is open for productive conversation like a few of y'all have already figured out.

So how does having two mothers or two fathers get in the way of that?

Because it takes away what you can learn from the alternate sex

[Kavagrad]

So how does having two mothers or two fathers get in the way of that?

Because it takes away what you can learn from the alternate sex

I grew up with a single mother. I learned whatever you're supposed to learn from a father from my grandfather. The same is true of someone with two mothers, and vice versa with two fathers and a grandmother.

[SD_Film Artists]

There's only so many minutes in a class/curriculum and those are already distracted by anti-social behaviour and other discipline issues. If you put something in then inevitably something else has to come out.

It isn't inevitable at all if the efficiency of lesson plans is tweaked a bit to minimise unnecessary repetition.

Please, do tell teachers how you have a better lesson plan after they've spent 3 hours of their own free time making it before catching some hard earned sleep.

[SD_Film Artists]

I hope one day we will be able to move past all of the identities that are held as important in today's modern world. I think it's quite silly that we need to teach a history to students which the criteria is someone's sexual orientation. That being said I recognize that in order to normalize something you usually need to familiarize it. Teaching American children about how a group that is sometimes seen as separate contributed to the greater society is one way to do this

I agree, we need better awareness of certain groups yet if it goes too far we'll effectively have a history curriculum which is based on what someone's skin colour is or who they like to fuck rather than telling a balanced, objective story of how [insert school's country] was made.

[The New California Republic]

It isn't inevitable at all if the efficiency of lesson plans is tweaked a bit to minimise unnecessary repetition.

Please, do tell teachers how you have a better lesson plan after they've spent 3 hours of their own free time making it before catching some hard earned sleep.

Alright.

[Azdov Mobius]

Being transgender has been possible since gender was a thing, probably. Actually doing something about it is a recent innovation.

If I recall correctly, the first sex reassignment surgery happened in the 30s.

Which is recent when compared to the entirety of mammalian history.

[Azdov Mobius]

Not true in the least. But continue simplifying our history so as to ignore counter examples if you want.

So what are the true founding values of America then?

Not paying taxes...then learning the hard way that you need taxes for a country to function.

[Azdov Mobius]

an ancient whore, man what bravery.

Ah, slut-shaming. Great.

Being a slut is a bad thing regardless of who you are fucking.

[Valrifell]

Ah, slut-shaming. Great.

Being a slut is a bad thing regardless of who you are fucking.

It has no reason to be bad.

[Azdov Mobius]

Being a slut is a bad thing regardless of who you are fucking.

It has no reason to be bad.

It trivializes relationships and sex.
It should atleast be considered trashy.

[Slarvainian]

So how does having two mothers or two fathers get in the way of that?

Because it takes away what you can learn from the alternate sex

There are maybe good aspects we can learn from role models based on the gender binary but to assume that you can't get a well balanced experience in a queer family goes against the scientific literature on the subject. I'll cede there are factors that mean growing up without a mother and father will be detrimental to a child's upbringing but if you take into account other disadvantages such as economic standing then the negatives disappear. I don't know why we have to adopt this model of man and woman when really well being isn't dependent on the gender factors.Even if one isn't raised by a mother and father there's still teachers, auxiliary caregivers, religious leaders, community leaders, media figures ect.To sum up my point, growing up well is not contingent on the gender of your parent(s).

[Hediacrana]

If I recall correctly, the first sex reassignment surgery happened in the 30s.

Which is recent when compared to the entirety of mammalian history.

Your point? With those goal posts pretty much every phenomenon relating to the human experience is recent. Also, the existence of transgender individuals obviously precedes and is in no way dependent on the availability of SRS.

[Slarvainian]

If I recall correctly, the first sex reassignment surgery happened in the 30s.

Which is recent when compared to the entirety of mammalian history.

Gender not being a dichotomy of man and women can be seen throughout the entirety of civilized history. The ancient Babylonians had a religious role in which the people were not viewed as man or women. I'll quickly respond to the counterpoint that they were probably still biologically man or woman. Our scientific constructions when it comes to biology have changed over the centuries so those aren't universal or concrete. Maybe generally so but there are multiple levels in which gender operates.

[Alvecia]

It has no reason to be bad.

It trivializes relationships and sex.
It should atleast be considered trashy.

That kinda implies sex and relationships can't be casual

[Azdov Mobius]

But you don't need to know the history to see that there are unfair things happening to their communities right now in the present.

The history of inequality is the way to finding the solution. Are you being serious right now?

Yes, I am,
You have enough information from simply observing modern issues to fix things.
For example, to help districts with bad schools, people should be allowed to choose their schools without having to pay for it. There should also be laws to ensure that a given crime always must receive the same punishment for all who commit it and there should be more monitoring of the courts for unfairness. Also since marajuanica is just as bad as Tobacco yet tobacco is legal, it should be legal and all crimes regarding its possession should be pardoned. Also it should no longer be required that someone provide their race in documents , to weaken racial profiling a little. Also there should be subsidies to promote people to move to neighborhoods dominated by other ethnicities to better integrate residential areas.

[Azdov Mobius]

It trivializes relationships and sex.
It should atleast be considered trashy.

That kinda implies sex and relationships can't be casual

Because THEY CANT BE CASUAL!! It’s not like getting a burrito!

[Azdov Mobius]

Which is recent when compared to the entirety of mammalian history.

Gender not being a dichotomy of man and women can be seen throughout the entirety of civilized history. The ancient Babylonians had a religious role in which the people were not viewed as man or women. I'll quickly respond to the counterpoint that they were probably still biologically man or woman. Our scientific constructions when it comes to biology have changed over the centuries so those aren't universal or concrete. Maybe generally so but there are multiple levels in which gender operates.

I’m pretty sure people still have X and Y chromosomes.
It’s either XX or XY, anything else results in genetic disorders like infertility and sometimes just straight up death.

And just because something is believed in by ancient people doesn’t mean it’s correct.
People used to believe the Earth was the center of the universe for example.

[SD_Film Artists]

That kinda implies sex and relationships can't be casual

Because THEY CANT BE CASUAL!! It’s not like getting a burrito!

Friends with benefits is more honest and moral than a relationship where someone is cheating, or a marriage which involves domestic abuse.

[Azdov Mobius]

Because THEY CANT BE CASUAL!! It’s not like getting a burrito!

Friends with benefits is more honest and moral than a relationship where someone is cheating, or a marriage which involves domestic abuse.

Cheating is being a slut!
And you can still end relationships! You just should only have one at a time.

[PANGANIA]

I guess you could say " this is gay! " ( please dont ban me )

[Liriena]

Ah, slut-shaming. Great.

Being a slut is a bad thing regardless of who you are fucking.

No, it's not.

[Azdov Mobius]

Being a slut is a bad thing regardless of who you are fucking.

No, it's not.

Yes, it is.

People trying to sympathize for aimless polygamy makes me almost made as some of those far leftist freaks who want to add a P to LGBTQ+, and that P doesn’t mean Polygamous or Pansexual if you know what I mean.

[Liriena]

Also one can be slutty within a monogamous relationship. It's all about attitude.

[Internationalist Bastard]

So how does having two mothers or two fathers get in the way of that?

Because it takes away what you can learn from the alternate sex

I was raised exclusively by women
I’d say I developed a really good understanding of the other sex

[Heloin]

That kinda implies sex and relationships can't be casual

Because THEY CANT BE CASUAL!! It’s not like getting a burrito!

Getting a burrito is serious.