New Jersey to Teach LGBT History in Schools

[Valrifell]

And we end with a hack threat

To be fair, that's how he started.

[The Galactic Liberal Democracy]

Oh by the way, incioni. It is the contributions of people who were LGBT to history, like Alan Turing. It is not at all forcing hetero kids to grovel and pray or exalting gay people as saviors or something.

But that doesn't make a good strawman, does it?

True

[Kannap]

In conclusion, the most humane thing we could do for homosexuals would be to understand that they have a sexual disorder

That's not it.. at all. That sounds horribly inhumane and sounds like it leads to fun stuff like repeatedly electrocuting somebody until they hate themselves for being gay.

and treat them as genuine human beings who deserve compassion and understanding, and who should be integrated into society as much as possible.

Can't treat humans with compassion and understanding if you're telling them they've got a disorder and you want nothing to do with them.

Like "people with autism", we do not need to punish these people or send them to camps, we just need to understand how they got their condition, try to prevent it, and try to deal with people who have this condition now in a way that is respectful to them but that also protects the rest of society from their behavior disorders.

1. Being gay isn't a "condition"
2. Society doesn't need to be protected because it's not a disorder and homosexuality is not contagious. Though wouldn't that be nice? I'd have a boyfriend by now if more people were gay.

In conclusion, "gay adoption" is a huge risk of sexual abuse of minors

In conclusion, heterosexual parents are a huge risk of sexual abuse of minors.

[Gagium]

In conclusion, "gay adoption" is a huge risk of sexual abuse of minors, and if I see another person banned or deleted for respectfully expressing a personal opinion, I will share your javascript vulnerability with every racist troll on 4chan, 8chan and the onionchans.

Can you expand on what you believe "respectfully" means? Please?

And how is gay adoption a 'huge risk of sexual abuse of minors'? I honestly fail to see your point or any evidence to back that up.

[Karu Nadu]

Students aren't doing it because of their skin color. They're learning about people who have had major impacts in American history - and oh, they happen to be black. Is it hard to believe that there are enough persons of color in history who have done important stuff that students aren't scraping the barrel and doing reports on the same four people?

Well, if you must insist on having people pick them because of their skin color rather than their aforementioned impact, you're almost making me wonder, yes.

"Martin Luther King had no impact."

[Andsed]

In conclusion, the most humane thing we could do for homosexuals would be to understand that they have a sexual disorder

Homosexuality is not a sexual disorder

try to reduce fetal exposure to synthetic estrogen, and treat them as genuine human beings who deserve compassion and understanding, and who should be integrated into society as much as possible.

Well this is not awful.

Like "people with autism", we do not need to punish these people or send them to camps, we just need to understand how they got their condition, try to prevent it, and try to deal with people who have this condition now in a way that is respectful to them but that also protects the rest of society from their behavior disorders.

Homosexuality is not a condition that needs to be dealt with or prevented.

conclusion, "gay adoption" is a huge risk of sexual abuse of minors

No it´s not that is utter bullshit

and if I see another person banned or deleted for respectfully expressing a personal opinion, I will share your javascript vulnerability with every racist troll on 4chan, 8chan and the onionchans.

I'll be watching.

Dude you can express your onpion without getting banned as long as you follow site rules. And your threats are not scary at all.

[The South Falls]

And we end with a hack threat

To be fair, that's how he started.

Let's hope they're vigilant.

[Kowani]

It takes one guy t’turn the thread into a clusterfuck...

[Kannap]

In conclusion, "gay adoption" is a huge risk of sexual abuse of minors, and if I see another person banned or deleted for respectfully expressing a personal opinion, I will share your javascript vulnerability with every racist troll on 4chan, 8chan and the onionchans.

Can you expand on what you believe "respectfully" means? Please?

And how is gay adoption a 'huge risk of sexual abuse of minors'? I honestly fail to see your point or any evidence to back that up.

He's referring to this person "respectfully expressing a personal opinion"

[Aellex]

Well, if you must insist on having people pick them because of their skin color rather than their aforementioned impact, you're almost making me wonder, yes.

"Martin Luther King had no impact."

It's such a retarded strawman I'm actually quite baffled. Try reading posts before responding to them.

[TURTLESHROOM II]

Dude, nobody istrying to force LGBT+ onto anyone else, just like nobody is trying to force being black onto anyone else by teaching people about the Civil rights movement, or like how nobody is trying to convert kids to Islam by teaching them about Muhammad.

1. Not in the USA. The SCOTUS vindicated a man who was punished for refusing to participate in a homosexual wedding. People have been fined to bankruptcy and even been imprisoned for refusing to sanction or participate in- actively or passively -in the commemoration or celebration of homosexual unions. They seek submission, not tolerance.

2. The movement to remove Gender Identity Disorder from medical books also actively preys on children and tries to convince them to stop their puberty process and mutilate their bodies. This is in spite of the fact that about forty percent of people with gender dysphoria eventually "grow out of it" as their body sexually matures. Instead of restricting body mutilation to consenting adults, they are allowing parents to force it on their children and even withdraw custody if one of the parents tries to stop it.

3. A sexually abused and tormented eleven year old boy (his name is Desmond Napoles) has been forced by his parents to wear women's clothing and dance in strip joints for men. Far too many people in the LGB community praised him for comfort. Although he is the most prominent example, he is not the first to be abused this way. Good Morning America hosted his family and his parents forced him to parade himself down a runway. [url=https://mobile.twitter.com/roughly_speakin/status/1083520556174110720/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc^tfw|twcamp^tweetembed|twterm^1083520556174110720&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.dailywire.com%2Fnews%2F42081%2F10-year-old-boy-dressed-drag-pictured-naked-amanda-prestigiacomo]LATER ON, HE WAS FORCED TO STAND NEXT TO[/url] A NAKED, ADULT MAN.

4. In Texas, a six year-old boy is sexually abused in his mother's custody, forced to dress up a girl at her house while he refuses to do so at his father's house. Not only have social workers refused to investigate, some are even siding with the abusive mother.

5. Drag queen activists have openly admitted that they are "emotionally grooming" children to take up their hobby at their propaganda events.


These are just some examples. Before anyone calls me a troll, I am not insinuating that all homosexuals are pedophiles or child abusers. However, those that are, are not being held accountable for it.

[Western Vale Confederacy]

In conclusion, the most humane thing we could do for homosexuals would be to understand that they have a sexual disorder

That's not it.. at all. That sounds horribly inhumane and sounds like it leads to fun stuff like repeatedly electrocuting somebody until they hate themselves for being gay.

and treat them as genuine human beings who deserve compassion and understanding, and who should be integrated into society as much as possible.

Can't treat humans with compassion and understanding if you're telling them they've got a disorder and you want nothing to do with them.

Like "people with autism", we do not need to punish these people or send them to camps, we just need to understand how they got their condition, try to prevent it, and try to deal with people who have this condition now in a way that is respectful to them but that also protects the rest of society from their behavior disorders.

1. Being gay isn't a "condition"
2. Society doesn't need to be protected because it's not a disorder and homosexuality is not contagious. Though wouldn't that be nice? I'd have a boyfriend by now if more people were gay.

In conclusion, "gay adoption" is a huge risk of sexual abuse of minors

In conclusion, heterosexual parents are a huge risk of sexual abuse of minors.

You know Kannap, subtly wishing for homosexuality to be contagious isn’t exactly aiding your cause.

That said, the genetics of it are wonky AF.

[TURTLESHROOM II]

In conclusion, the most humane thing we could do for homosexuals would be to understand that they have a sexual disorder

That's not it.. at all. That sounds horribly inhumane and sounds like it leads to fun stuff like repeatedly electrocuting somebody until they hate themselves for being gay.

That is fallacious and you know it. Nowhere on here is anyone seriously entertaining torturing innocents. Shock therapy has been proven not to work on that condition. Furthermore, it is not a sin to be attracted to the same sex. It is a sin to act on it. Homosexuals can be celibate, just like straight can be chaste or celibate.

While homosexuality is not a mental disorder in the true sense, it is a deviation from normal/neurotypical mental behavior. That is to say, it's not a normal occurence and only exists in a minority of the population. Even a definition that benign was removed after enough pressure was levied on professional medical boards by viciously anti-psychiatry protestors that had hounded them for years.

[Karu Nadu]

That is fallacious and you know it. Nowhere is anyone seriously entertaining torturing innocents. Shock therapy has been proven not to work on that condition. Furthermore, it is not a sin to be attracted to the same sex. It is a sin to act on it. Homosexuals can be celibate, just like straight can be chaste or celibate.

Look, you considering it a sin doesn't mean everybody else should. We have our opinions, and you have yours.

[Andsed]

That's not it.. at all. That sounds horribly inhumane and sounds like it leads to fun stuff like repeatedly electrocuting somebody until they hate themselves for being gay.

That is fallacious and you know it. Nowhere on here is anyone seriously entertaining torturing innocents. Shock therapy has been proven not to work on that condition. Furthermore, it is not a sin to be attracted to the same sex. It is a sin to act on it. Homosexuals can be celibate, just like straight can be chaste or celibate.

While homosexuality is not a mental disorder in the true sense, it is a deviation from normal/neurotypical mental behavior. That is to say, it's not a normal occurence and only exists in a minority of the population. Even a definition that benign was removed after enough pressure was levied on professional medical boards by viciously anti-psychiatry protestors that had hounded them for years.

First off how is it a sin to have consenting sex with someone of the same sex? And second no being gay is not a disorder it is simply liking someone of the same gender.

[Kowani]

That's not it.. at all. That sounds horribly inhumane and sounds like it leads to fun stuff like repeatedly electrocuting somebody until they hate themselves for being gay.

That is fallacious and you know it. Nowhere on here is anyone seriously entertaining torturing innocents. Shock therapy has been proven not to work on that condition. Furthermore, it is not a sin to be attracted to the same sex. It is a sin to act on it. Homosexuals can be celibate, just like straight can be chaste or celibate.

When God proves his existence, then he can make the rules.

[TURTLESHROOM II]

Heterosexuals could be celibate, why aren't they?

I am. For most straights, being chaste is the term for which you're looking. People masturbate, fornicate, shack up, and sleep around because they have no self-control or discipline over their bodies. They cannot contain their libido/sex drive and are unable to save themselves from marriage.

For most of these people, they don't even try to fight it.

[Ifreann]

Alan Turing is a hero, not because he was openly gay, but because he helped win the war. However, that he was openly gay and prosecuted for that, and not exonerated until after his death, is often excluded in tellings of his life. All these reports would do is give children the full story, and a more rounded picture of people who were pretty great already.

Yes, Alan Turing was a war hero and is likely singlehandedly responsible for placing the D-Day invasion in a strategic area that we could have won against. For that, nothing but applause should be given regardless of his sex life.

However, the man committed a crime and got a just punishment. Alan Turing could have been celibate and gone down in history as the greatest computing mastermind in history, with no baggage. I do not, and should not, pity him for lacking the discipline to control his body.

Turing's punishment was not just. The government officially apologised for their treatment of him and the Queen posthumously pardoned him.

[Western Vale Confederacy]

Heterosexuals could be celibate, why aren't they?

I am. For most straights, being chaste is the term for which you're looking. People masturbate, fornicate, shack up, and sleep around because they have no self-control or discipline over their bodies. They cannot contain their libido/sex drive and are unable to save themselves from marriage.

For most of these people, they don't even try to fight it.

Being 100% chaste is virtually a human impossibility.

[Kavagrad]

That's not it.. at all. That sounds horribly inhumane and sounds like it leads to fun stuff like repeatedly electrocuting somebody until they hate themselves for being gay.

Furthermore, it is not a sin to be attracted to the same sex. It is a sin to act on it.

If your God wants to tell me where to put my dick, he can get off his lazy backside and bloody well tell me in person. Until then, his "opinion" is nothing more than the doggiest of shite.

[TURTLESHROOM II]

First off how is it a sin to have consenting sex with someone of the same sex? And second no being gay is not a disorder it is simply liking someone of the same gender.

There's a difference between being attracted to the same sex and acting on that attraction to the same sex. Understand that Christians see the latter, and not the former, as a sin. When you hear people say "homosexuality is a choice", they are referring to the deed of sodomy and same-sex lifestyles, NOT being attracted to the same sex.

Lust is different from attraction. Sex is different from attraction. People who are attracted to the same sex cannot help it, as it is innate. The only thing the Church can do is help them overcome the tempation to engage in sexual acts and remain celibate. You can't "give someone gay" and you can't fix sexual orientations either way. However, you can teach discipline and self-control.

[The South Falls]

There are many promiscuous straight people.

[Andsed]

First off how is it a sin to have consenting sex with someone of the same sex? And second no being gay is not a disorder it is simply liking someone of the same gender.

There's a difference between being attracted to the same sex and acting on that attraction to the same sex. Understand that Christians see the latter, and not the former, as a sin. When you hear people say "homosexuality is a choice", they are referring to the deed of sodomy and same-sex lifestyles, NOT being attracted to the same sex.

Lust is different from attraction. Sex is different from attraction. People who are attracted to the same sex cannot help it, as it is innate. The only thing the Church can do is help them overcome the tempation to engage in sexual acts and remain celibate. You can't "give someone gay" and you can't fix sexual orientations either way. However, you can teach discipline and self-control.

That did not answer my question. How is it a sin to have sex with someone of the same gender?

[TURTLESHROOM II]

Turing's punishment was not just. The government officially apologised for their treatment of him and the Queen posthumously pardoned him.

It is the Queen's right to pardon him, so if she did, so be it. However, the UK should never have apologized for the conviction of Alan Turing, assuming he received a fair trial and due process was observed. As I said earlier, he could have simply not have engaged in sexual acts. There was no gun to his head forcing him to do what he did.

[Andsed]

Turing's punishment was not just. The government officially apologised for their treatment of him and the Queen posthumously pardoned him.

It is the Queen's right to pardon him, so if she did, so be it. However, the UK should never have apologized for the conviction of Alan Turing, assuming he received a fair trial and due process was observed. As I said earlier, he could have simply not have engaged in sexual acts. There was no gun to his head forcing him to do what he did.

They apologized because all Turing did was have sex with another man. How is that wrong other than the fact that there was a stupid law against it?