New Jersey to Teach LGBT History in Schools

[Grater Tovakia]

Thank you, Murphy, very cool!


Can we plz fix NJ transit now?

You think that the transportation infrastructure in NJ is bad? Outside of the metropolitan areas of Pittsburgh and Philadelphia, PA has horrid infrastructure. Truly horrid. At least in Hell the roads are reasonably paved.

NJT employees are our biggest problem, yesterday I had a conductor who cursed out a mom and her kids for not having the proper ticket (while you need the right ticket it was the wrong approach) and then 5 secs later the same conductor let 3 guys (all reeking of weed) ride for free because of a certain aspect they had in common. Sorry for the threadjack but NJT is pretty bad.

[Trumptonium1]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Programme ... Assessment

[Trollzyn the Infinite]

LGBT has less to do with culture and more to do with sociology and biology; i.e., not history.

...culture is very closely intertwined with sociology.

Not really. They're connected; not intertwined.

[The Supreme Magnificent High Swaglord]

You think that the transportation infrastructure in NJ is bad? Outside of the metropolitan areas of Pittsburgh and Philadelphia, PA has horrid infrastructure. Truly horrid. At least in Hell the roads are reasonably paved.

New Jersey's transport system should be fixed instead. The money should be reappropriated.

So you’re siding with NJ then?

I mean, PA is fast-approaching Greece-levels of broke-ness. We can barely maintain order in some of the smaller, poorer towns, and our infrastructure is literally crumbling. In fact, I’d go so far as to argue that some parts of PA are a “failed state”, so to speak.

[Grater Tovakia]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Programme_for_International_Student_Assessment

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This is too true ( I support LGBT history but many public school students can't read or do basic arithmetic)

[Farnhamia]

New Jersey's transport system should be fixed instead. The money should be reappropriated.

So you’re siding with NJ then?

I mean, PA is fast-approaching Greece-levels of broke-ness. We can barely maintain order in some of the smaller, poorer towns, and our infrastructure is literally crumbling. In fact, I’d go so far as to argue that some parts of PA are a “failed state”, so to speak.

So ... what's the topic here? LGBT history lessons on NJ Transit trains? Hmmm?

[Ethel mermania]

Thank you, Murphy, very cool!


Can we plz fix NJ transit now?

no, some things are to much to ask.


edit: now i read farns post ....

[The Supreme Magnificent High Swaglord]

You think that the transportation infrastructure in NJ is bad? Outside of the metropolitan areas of Pittsburgh and Philadelphia, PA has horrid infrastructure. Truly horrid. At least in Hell the roads are reasonably paved.

NJT employees are our biggest problem, yesterday I had a conductor who cursed out a mom and her kids for not having the proper ticket (while you need the right ticket it was the wrong approach) and then 5 secs later the same conductor let 3 guys (all reeking of weed) ride for free because of a certain aspect they had in common. Sorry for the threadjack but NJT is pretty bad.

You’re right, we should return to topic. My apologies.

Tbh, the public education system in the United States is a clustertruck of unfathomable scale. Hence why I am privately schooled, and rather thankful that I have that privilege. The LGBT history lessons, while well intentioned, won’t fix the underlying issues in the education system.

[Western Vale Confederacy]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Programme_for_International_Student_Assessment

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I genuinely wish they teached home economics at fucking school..

[Valrifell]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Programme_for_International_Student_Assessment

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This is too true ( I support LGBT history but many public school students can't read or do basic arithmetic)

We can do basic arithmetic, Trump1 just has bad memes.

[Valrifell]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Programme_for_International_Student_Assessment

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I genuinely wish they teached home economics at fucking school..

Was a requirement where I grew up.

[Grater Tovakia]

This is too true ( I support LGBT history but many public school students can't read or do basic arithmetic)

We can do basic arithmetic, Trump1 just has bad memes.

So because you can do math means everyone can?

[The South Falls]

New Jersey's transport system should be fixed instead. The money should be reappropriated.

So you’re siding with NJ then?

I mean, PA is fast-approaching Greece-levels of broke-ness. We can barely maintain order in some of the smaller, poorer towns, and our infrastructure is literally crumbling. In fact, I’d go so far as to argue that some parts of PA are a “failed state”, so to speak.

PA is one of those states that used to be great when everything worked. Now it's one of those states you go to unless you have a business or family there.

We can do basic arithmetic, Trump1 just has bad memes.

So because you can do math means everyone can?

2 + 2 equals 4, dude. That's what we're talking about.

[Valrifell]

We can do basic arithmetic, Trump1 just has bad memes.

So because you can do math means everyone can?

US education standards vary wildly between state and even districts, it's completely unfair to say that we're all educated like the third world, particularly when there's a world class university system to be had.

[Trollzyn the Infinite]

Explain to me the relevance of the LGBT in American History outside of the advancement and expansion of civil rights.

We teach the 1960s Civil Rights movement in our history classes, why not this?

The Civil Rights Movement was a very specific period in American history marked by large-scale demonstrations across the country in an attempt to secure equals rights for the single largest minority in the country (at the time). It was highly organized and had a lasting impact on the average American and American society to such a degree that the affects can still be felt to this very day.

There is no movement the LGBT can claim ownership to which bares any similarity to the sheer weight, influence, and importance of the Civil Right Movement in American History. Covering all LGBT History in America would just give us another "Black History Month"; another pointless division in the teaching of American History.

[Ethel mermania]

NJT employees are our biggest problem, yesterday I had a conductor who cursed out a mom and her kids for not having the proper ticket (while you need the right ticket it was the wrong approach) and then 5 secs later the same conductor let 3 guys (all reeking of weed) ride for free because of a certain aspect they had in common. Sorry for the threadjack but NJT is pretty bad.

You’re right, we should return to topic. My apologies.

Tbh, the public education system in the United States is a clustertruck of unfathomable scale. Hence why I am privately schooled, and rather thankful that I have that privilege. The LGBT history lessons, while well intentioned, won’t fix the underlying issues in the education system.

for the most part new jersey public schools are pretty good. Teachers make real money, most have are in the process of getting their masters degree in eductaion, again outside the big cities class sizes are small. there really is not any reason not too.

[The Galactic Liberal Democracy]

We teach the 1960s Civil Rights movement in our history classes, why not this?

Because the LGBT civil rights movement hasn’t come yet.

[Aureumterra]

Explain to me the relevance of the LGBT in American History outside of the advancement and expansion of civil rights.

We teach the 1960s Civil Rights movement in our history classes, why not this?
Because the LGBT civil rights movement hasn’t come yet.

I wake up to see some rainbow march going on somewhere nearly once every week or so

[Valrifell]

Explain to me the relevance of the LGBT in American History outside of the advancement and expansion of civil rights.

We teach the 1960s Civil Rights movement in our history classes, why not this?

Because the LGBT civil rights movement hasn’t come yet.[/quote]

Yes it has. There are leaders, marches, speeches the whole shabang. That you're unaware is a point for the program

[Ethel mermania]

We teach the 1960s Civil Rights movement in our history classes, why not this?

The Civil Rights Movement was a very specific period in American history marked by large-scale demonstrations across the country in an attempt to secure equals rights for the single largest minority in the country (at the time). It was highly organized and had a lasting impact on the average American and American society to such a degree that the affects can still be felt to this very day.

There is no movement the LGBT can claim ownership to which bares any similarity to the sheer weight, influence, and importance of the Civil Right Movement in American History. Covering all LGBT History in America would just give us another "Black History Month"; another pointless division in the teaching of American History.

if you were to prepare a course of american history of the 20th century, its a continuation of the civil rights movement, the womens rights movement, and the counter culture, and how these have changed american culture.

[The South Falls]

I genuinely wish they teached home economics at fucking school..

Was a requirement where I grew up.

Now that's why y'all know how to cook and pay taxes.

[Azdov Mobius]

LGBT history remains history, so yeah, I wholeheartedly support it!

I wanna know about the hella gay Iberian Moors and Ferdinand I of Bulgaria’s bisexual tendencies!

Both the Moors and Bulgarians murdered gay people.

[Ethel mermania]

Explain to me the relevance of the LGBT in American History outside of the advancement and expansion of civil rights.

We teach the 1960s Civil Rights movement in our history classes, why not this?

Because the LGBT civil rights movement hasn’t come yet.[/quote]


i would suggest you google the stonewall riots, or act-up.

[Trumptonium1]

This is too true ( I support LGBT history but many public school students can't read or do basic arithmetic)

We can do basic arithmetic, Trump1 just has bad memes.

Well looking at the PISA scores your basic arithmetic is obviously too basic.

[The South Falls]

We teach the 1960s Civil Rights movement in our history classes, why not this?

The Civil Rights Movement was a very specific period in American history marked by large-scale demonstrations across the country in an attempt to secure equals rights for the single largest minority in the country (at the time). It was highly organized and had a lasting impact on the average American and American society to such a degree that the affects can still be felt to this very day.

There is no movement the LGBT can claim ownership to which bares any similarity to the sheer weight, influence, and importance of the Civil Right Movement in American History. Covering all LGBT History in America would just give us another "Black History Month"; another pointless division in the teaching of American History.

I mean, this doesn't have to be a massive unit. This can be a small addition to what is taught, with one or two questions on any sort of standardized test. It's a smaller movement, but it still saw people fight for their rights as relating to their sexual orientations.