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Postby The Rich Port » Thu May 02, 2019 3:12 pm

I've also noticed I dislike the quiet. I have to have the radio or my laptop playing YouTube or music at all times of the day. Makes me wonder if it's driving my poor mom insane, but I also kinda don't want to turn it off.
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Postby Caleonia » Thu May 02, 2019 3:19 pm

The Rich Port wrote:I've also noticed I dislike the quiet. I have to have the radio or my laptop playing YouTube or music at all times of the day. Makes me wonder if it's driving my poor mom insane, but I also kinda don't want to turn it off.


I dislike the quiet, but I despise the loud. Basically I am almost always on YouTube or the radio or something, but I cannot stand anyone who either gets too loud, reaches too high of a pitch, and ESPECIALLY both combined. Babies screaming basically makes me want to jump off of a bridge.
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Postby The Rich Port » Thu May 02, 2019 3:20 pm

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The Rich Port wrote:I've also noticed I dislike the quiet. I have to have the radio or my laptop playing YouTube or music at all times of the day. Makes me wonder if it's driving my poor mom insane, but I also kinda don't want to turn it off.


I dislike the quiet, but I despise the loud. Basically I am almost always on YouTube or the radio or something, but I cannot stand anyone who either gets too loud, reaches too high of a pitch, and ESPECIALLY both combined. Babies screaming basically makes me want to jump off of a bridge.


I love the loud, especially if it's melodic. :lol:

For example. EUROBEAT.

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Postby Petrolheadia » Thu May 02, 2019 3:26 pm

The Rich Port wrote:I've also noticed I dislike the quiet. I have to have the radio or my laptop playing YouTube or music at all times of the day. Makes me wonder if it's driving my poor mom insane, but I also kinda don't want to turn it off.

I feel like I gotta do something interesting all the time, whatever it is.

It can be reflecting on the changing role of German executive wagons after seeing them beat-up at Brico Depot, it can be recalling It's Only Rock 'N Roll (But I Like It) and deciding to put on the headphones and play it, it can be checking up on Reddit for the 1974th time... anything works.

Maybe that's why I can't just go to sleep.
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Postby The Rich Port » Thu May 02, 2019 3:30 pm

Petrolheadia wrote:
The Rich Port wrote:I've also noticed I dislike the quiet. I have to have the radio or my laptop playing YouTube or music at all times of the day. Makes me wonder if it's driving my poor mom insane, but I also kinda don't want to turn it off.

I feel like I gotta do something interesting all the time, whatever it is.

It can be reflecting on the changing role of German executive wagons after seeing them beat-up at Brico Depot, it can be recalling It's Only Rock 'N Roll (But I Like It) and deciding to put on the headphones and play it, it can be checking up on Reddit for the 1974th time... anything works.

Maybe that's why I can't just go to sleep.


sigh You neither, huh.

I think it's more my ADHD that I get bored easily, but... Getting bored of friends is... Yeah, not normal. And it leaves me lonely.
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Postby Petrolheadia » Thu May 02, 2019 3:32 pm

The Rich Port wrote:
Petrolheadia wrote:I feel like I gotta do something interesting all the time, whatever it is.

It can be reflecting on the changing role of German executive wagons after seeing them beat-up at Brico Depot, it can be recalling It's Only Rock 'N Roll (But I Like It) and deciding to put on the headphones and play it, it can be checking up on Reddit for the 1974th time... anything works.

Maybe that's why I can't just go to sleep.


sigh You neither, huh.

I think it's more my ADHD that I get bored easily, but... Getting bored of friends is... Yeah, not normal. And it leaves me lonely.

I don't get bored of friends, but I don't interact much with them either.

Family is a different story. Doesn't help that my parents are kind of helicopter-style, so half,the time I'm halfway to yelling "JUST FUCK OFF!"
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Postby Great Algerstonia » Thu May 02, 2019 5:35 pm

Caleonia wrote:
The Rich Port wrote:I've also noticed I dislike the quiet. I have to have the radio or my laptop playing YouTube or music at all times of the day. Makes me wonder if it's driving my poor mom insane, but I also kinda don't want to turn it off.


I dislike the quiet, but I despise the loud. Basically I am almost always on YouTube or the radio or something, but I cannot stand anyone who either gets too loud, reaches too high of a pitch, and ESPECIALLY both combined. Babies screaming basically makes me want to jump off of a bridge.

For me, I am good with loud music, but things such as the home team cheering after their team makes a 3-pointer drives me bonkers. Football arenas I can handle better, since they are outdoors. But not indoor arenas. I avoid those at all costs.
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Postby Jolthig » Thu May 02, 2019 6:32 pm

Eternal Lotharia wrote:I dislike music with vocals, with notable exceptions.

I also dislike being alone.

But people make me want to be left alone, usually because they aren't into what really am into.

It's a dilemma.

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Postby The Rich Port » Thu May 02, 2019 8:35 pm

Eternal Lotharia wrote:I dislike music with vocals, with notable exceptions.

I also dislike being alone.

But people make me want to be left alone, usually because they aren't into what really am into.

It's a dilemma.


I think we have to make decisions on what is changing ourselves just to appease other people and changing ourselves because it makes us better people.

For example, I find quite a few nerds/autistic people have problems bathing and with their weight. I had that problem as well. Is bathing and losing weight us really collapsing under the weight of society or is it us, you know, maintaining ourselves and keeping ourselves from dying early deaths.

I had those same issues, but now I make sure, no matter how obsessed I get with something, that I bathe every day, change my clothes, wash my mouth out, and that I do my exercises. Boring as the latter might be, it's something we have to do if I want to keep doing the things I like.

This can then go on to be extended to other things, such as expanding our horizon.

A great example is my adoration for EUROBEAT. I used to not be able to listen to anything that wasn't rock and roll and metal. I allowed myself to look past my bizarre apprehensions against any other kinds of music and I allowed myself to enjoy it.

And now I love it. It's so FAST. GETS YOU PUMPING. GOTTA GO FAST. DANCE TO THE HEARTBEAT. WHOA OH OH. YOU NEED TO TAKE YOUR CHANCES RIGHT NOW.
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Postby American Pere Housh » Sat May 04, 2019 10:04 pm

The Rich Port wrote:
Eternal Lotharia wrote:I dislike music with vocals, with notable exceptions.

I also dislike being alone.

But people make me want to be left alone, usually because they aren't into what really am into.

It's a dilemma.


I think we have to make decisions on what is changing ourselves just to appease other people and changing ourselves because it makes us better people.

For example, I find quite a few nerds/autistic people have problems bathing and with their weight. I had that problem as well. Is bathing and losing weight us really collapsing under the weight of society or is it us, you know, maintaining ourselves and keeping ourselves from dying early deaths.

I had those same issues, but now I make sure, no matter how obsessed I get with something, that I bathe every day, change my clothes, wash my mouth out, and that I do my exercises. Boring as the latter might be, it's something we have to do if I want to keep doing the things I like.

This can then go on to be extended to other things, such as expanding our horizon.

A great example is my adoration for EUROBEAT. I used to not be able to listen to anything that wasn't rock and roll and metal. I allowed myself to look past my bizarre apprehensions against any other kinds of music and I allowed myself to enjoy it.

And now I love it. It's so FAST. GETS YOU PUMPING. GOTTA GO FAST. DANCE TO THE HEARTBEAT. WHOA OH OH. YOU NEED TO TAKE YOUR CHANCES RIGHT NOW.

What in the world is Eurobeat? I like listening to modern rock and metal.
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Postby The Rich Port » Sun May 05, 2019 7:18 pm

American Pere Housh wrote:
The Rich Port wrote:
I think we have to make decisions on what is changing ourselves just to appease other people and changing ourselves because it makes us better people.

For example, I find quite a few nerds/autistic people have problems bathing and with their weight. I had that problem as well. Is bathing and losing weight us really collapsing under the weight of society or is it us, you know, maintaining ourselves and keeping ourselves from dying early deaths.

I had those same issues, but now I make sure, no matter how obsessed I get with something, that I bathe every day, change my clothes, wash my mouth out, and that I do my exercises. Boring as the latter might be, it's something we have to do if I want to keep doing the things I like.

This can then go on to be extended to other things, such as expanding our horizon.

A great example is my adoration for EUROBEAT. I used to not be able to listen to anything that wasn't rock and roll and metal. I allowed myself to look past my bizarre apprehensions against any other kinds of music and I allowed myself to enjoy it.

And now I love it. It's so FAST. GETS YOU PUMPING. GOTTA GO FAST. DANCE TO THE HEARTBEAT. WHOA OH OH. YOU NEED TO TAKE YOUR CHANCES RIGHT NOW.

What in the world is Eurobeat? I like listening to modern rock and metal.


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Postby Shrillland » Tue May 07, 2019 2:34 pm

Eternal Lotharia wrote:I'm not the only Autistic person who thinks people as a whole are stretched too thin these days am I?

Pretty sure I'm not.


No, you're not, and it's social media that's done it as I see it. It expects us to be in our public modes all the time without having a chance to dwell in our private minds as much.
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Postby The Rich Port » Tue May 07, 2019 2:58 pm

Eternal Lotharia wrote:I'm not the only Autistic person who thinks people as a whole are stretched too thin these days am I?

Pretty sure I'm not.


Nope.

Americans are working longer harder hours for less pay. https://20somethingfinance.com/american ... -vacation/

Remember that one guy who said autistic people are "the golden goose" if you're running a business?
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Postby Shrillland » Tue May 07, 2019 3:05 pm

Eternal Lotharia wrote:
The Rich Port wrote:
Nope.

Americans are working longer harder hours for less pay. https://20somethingfinance.com/american ... -vacation/

Remember that one guy who said autistic people are "the golden goose" if you're running a business?

Nope, explain.


I don't remember that phrase specifically, but I think I can guess. He means that Autistic people can practically be used and abused because they're so desperate for work and a lot of places won't hire them. They'll be too afraid to make any waves because they know that, if they're fired, they likely won't find another job.
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Postby The Rich Port » Tue May 07, 2019 3:09 pm

Shrillland wrote:
Eternal Lotharia wrote:Nope, explain.


I don't remember that phrase specifically, but I think I can guess. He means that Autistic people can practically be used and abused because they're so desperate for work and a lot of places won't hire them. They'll be too afraid to make any waves because they know that, if they're fired, they likely won't find another job.


I think there was also some bits about autistic people not taking vacations and never having to worry about family because they have no social lives and are unlikely to get married, so they're also more available to work.
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Postby Shrillland » Sat May 25, 2019 6:50 am

Eternal Lotharia wrote:
The Rich Port wrote:
I think there was also some bits about autistic people not taking vacations and never having to worry about family because they have no social lives and are unlikely to get married, so they're also more available to work.

See that's also why I'm dedicated to love. Beyond my extremely romantic(as in loving romance and love) nature I understand that all too well.

NS has been my major social life for most my life 13 and up, almost 19.

I'm dedicated to changing that while staying on here(and other rp sites I kinda also left for a bit cuz depression)a lot, and running for office.

Trying to have my cake and eat it too, I know.

EDIT:

I have at least 1,maybe 2 people who adore me though nonromantically, a friend and ex I had to dump cuz I thought she was beyond the legal age limit in her state and I was about to turn 18, google gave me wrong results found out they were wrong, regretted it but by that time was heads over heels over someone else.

The other person is from another site and a bff, no special story besides us clicking.

Both female.

Feels odd of how I'm unable to connect with males emotionally beyond having fun, and/or them being a sidekick, partner in crime, adviser, fellow schemer, or mentor, there was one exception once.



I've never been so fortunate as to be in a relationship, though I'll admit I have somewhat high standards. What I want more than anything else is an independent, intelligent woman who doesn't need a man. That makes it all the more special when she actually wants you and doesn't need you. But on top of Hyperlexia, I'm cripplingly shy and introverted, I don't know if that comes with the territory or not.
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Postby Nakena » Sat May 25, 2019 2:30 pm

My autism (diagnosed as high-functional) has waned in the recent years.

Specifically I no longer have the OCD or patience to spend hours on detailed hobbies and the likes.

On the other side my social skills improved.
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Postby Petrolheadia » Sat May 25, 2019 2:35 pm

Nakena wrote:My autism (diagnosed as high-functional) has waned in the recent years.

Specifically I no longer have the OCD or patience to spend hours on detailed hobbies and the likes.

On the other side my social skills improved.

For me, it's kind of both ways at the same time. I think I just stopped caring about having Asperger's and just moved on with my life, for better or for worse.

Either way, I'm trying to get on a self-improvement high.
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Postby Volnaya Territoriya » Tue May 28, 2019 12:32 pm

Sometimes other people suspect that I have autism. Haven't gotten diagnosed or anything yet. Don't know if it would change anything in my life at all.

Edit: Not sure if getting a diagnosis would be worth it.
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Volnaya Territoriya wrote:Sometimes other people suspect that I have autism. Haven't gotten diagnosed or anything yet. Don't know if it would change anything in my life at all.

Edit: Not sure if getting a diagnosis would be worth it.


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Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Thu May 30, 2019 2:14 am

Petrolheadia wrote:
Nakena wrote:My autism (diagnosed as high-functional) has waned in the recent years.

Specifically I no longer have the OCD or patience to spend hours on detailed hobbies and the likes.

On the other side my social skills improved.

For me, it's kind of both ways at the same time. I think I just stopped caring about having Asperger's and just moved on with my life, for better or for worse.

Either way, I'm trying to get on a self-improvement high.
I'm studying to get a CPE English certificate, planning to enroll in driving exams once the school year ends, and trying to expand my social life, and I'm being kept up at it by The Rolling Stones, The Who and a host of other bands I binge on.

Since my diagnosis, I've done a lot more research to back up my belief that Asperger's is not real. This has led me to act the way I want to act without worrying if I'm behaving in an Asperger's way; since I've come to that conclusion my grades are higher, I'm more focussed and I have more friends...but oddly my writing has gone downhill.
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Postby Volnaya Territoriya » Thu May 30, 2019 8:59 am

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:
Petrolheadia wrote:For me, it's kind of both ways at the same time. I think I just stopped caring about having Asperger's and just moved on with my life, for better or for worse.

Either way, I'm trying to get on a self-improvement high.
I'm studying to get a CPE English certificate, planning to enroll in driving exams once the school year ends, and trying to expand my social life, and I'm being kept up at it by The Rolling Stones, The Who and a host of other bands I binge on.

Since my diagnosis, I've done a lot more research to back up my belief that Asperger's is not real. This has led me to act the way I want to act without worrying if I'm behaving in an Asperger's way; since I've come to that conclusion my grades are higher, I'm more focussed and I have more friends...but oddly my writing has gone downhill.


I myself am very critical of the whole autism field. Sure, there certainly are people that due to some mental disability, are unable to interact with other humans properly, but from my experience, that doesn't seem to apply to the majority of people with this diagnosis. My main issue in life is that my intelligence level is much higher than average (this has been measured btw) and I see right through people's mental biases, and illogical thinking. What sucks is not so much that people have this, but when other people try and force their bullshit on me. Having all of that in mind, I am the problem, and the disabled one?

Case study 1: In a sexual relationship with a woman. Her parents start trying to force their religious BS (you should get married since you're having sex, have children, baptize them, etc) on us. She is cracking under pressure. I don't give af about their opinion, since we are both legally adults, and should live life the way we see fit. It was kinda insulting that while we were trying to have a happy relationship, her parents saw nothing but a potential ideological incubator in us. Eventually, we broke up because she was refusing to just ignore them, which meant stress for her, that was also causing me a ton of stress. At the end of the day, I wasn't forcing anything on nobody, and I made some mistakes that I apologized for, but the religious folk, having treated us as less than humans didn't see anything wrong in their behavior. After all this was said and done, I am apparently the one with problems.

Case study 2: Some people who have issues, instead of dealing with them, try and drag me down with them to their level. A few examples would be drinking (I don't touch alcohol with a 10 meter pole, however some people I know literally don't respect me for refusing to poison my brain), debt (some people I know have money issues and one has a gambling problem. They keep asking me for loans, but I know they can't possibly pay me back, so I help them in every other way possible, for which I get zero thanks.), me having any source of determination and direction in life gives other people the impulse to try and destroy that, or me even just having the ability to enjoy life apparently is also unacceptable. At the end of the day, I'm the one with the problem/social disability?
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Postby Volnaya Territoriya » Fri May 31, 2019 4:08 am

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I myself am very critical of the whole autism field. Sure, there certainly are people that due to some mental disability, are unable to interact with other humans properly, but from my experience, that doesn't seem to apply to the majority of people with this diagnosis. My main issue in life is that my intelligence level is much higher than average (this has been measured btw) and I see right through people's mental biases, and illogical thinking. What sucks is not so much that people have this, but when other people try and force their bullshit on me. Having all of that in mind, I am the problem, and the disabled one?

Case study 1: In a sexual relationship with a woman. Her parents start trying to force their religious BS (you should get married since you're having sex, have children, baptize them, etc) on us. She is cracking under pressure. I don't give af about their opinion, since we are both legally adults, and should live life the way we see fit. It was kinda insulting that while we were trying to have a happy relationship, her parents saw nothing but a potential ideological incubator in us. Eventually, we broke up because she was refusing to just ignore them, which meant stress for her, that was also causing me a ton of stress. At the end of the day, I wasn't forcing anything on nobody, and I made some mistakes that I apologized for, but the religious folk, having treated us as less than humans didn't see anything wrong in their behavior. After all this was said and done, I am apparently the one with problems.

Case study 2: Some people who have issues, instead of dealing with them, try and drag me down with them to their level. A few examples would be drinking (I don't touch alcohol with a 10 meter pole, however some people I know literally don't respect me for refusing to poison my brain), debt (some people I know have money issues and one has a gambling problem. They keep asking me for loans, but I know they can't possibly pay me back, so I help them in every other way possible, for which I get zero thanks.), me having any source of determination and direction in life gives other people the impulse to try and destroy that, or me even just having the ability to enjoy life apparently is also unacceptable. At the end of the day, I'm the one with the problem/social disability?

That view is offensive, the way you phrase that, " It was kinda insulting that while we were trying to have a happy relationship, her parents saw nothing but a potential ideological incubator in us".

They see it more than that and as a Christian Rationalist find such hostility sickening. I get you disagree with their views, but no need to talk like that. Also implying due to that they are the problem for their religious beliefs which necessitate their actions, and pushing their child, which yes I understand it is stressful but nobody needs to be blamed or considered at fault. You can have issues/stress with people without it being anyone's fault, especially if it's their religion.

I don't think you're seeing through bullshit in that regard but rather letting their beliefs get to you personally and overreacting overly aggressively here.

Look, you may disagree and it may get to you.
However remember no one's at fault and try to solve it without saying it's anyone's or anything's fault.

What you described is commonplace in civilized society so you need to understand this as it is key and cool down.

Talking to you as a fellow autistic person.


You being offended sounded like I was generalizing the religious population, while in reality I was describing the behavior of two people. I am the narrator of the story, and you have every right to doubt me (especially if something I say is inconsistent) however it is entirely unfounded to say "they see it as more than that" having no idea who these people even are. Whatever your beliefs, attitude, or behaviors are like as a Christian, that doesn't necessarily mean those folks had the same beliefs, so getting offended seems out of place.

It wasn't the fact that people disagreed with me on something. I honestly can't care less what other people believe in. Its literally the fact that while I was trying to focus on my relationship with her, her parents decided to stress her the fuck out with their bullshit. Her being stressed out had an effect on me, it's what happens when you're close to someone. The ideological incubator analogy was just to say that they didn't care about anything but whether or not we end up raising Christian children, which I am 100% against, and since they would be my children, it is my right to NOT raise them as Christians. Her parents however didn't see that as an inalienable right

You're telling me that people forcing their beliefs on others is a normal part of civilized society. Alright I guess in order to become a part of this society I've got to go around pushing my beliefs on others. Except that will only create problems. People that try and force their lifestyle or beliefs on other really are a problem, but whenever I tell them to fuck off, I'm apparently the problem.
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Postby Petrolheadia » Fri May 31, 2019 9:27 am

Volnaya Territoriya wrote:
Eternal Lotharia wrote:That view is offensive, the way you phrase that, " It was kinda insulting that while we were trying to have a happy relationship, her parents saw nothing but a potential ideological incubator in us".

They see it more than that and as a Christian Rationalist find such hostility sickening. I get you disagree with their views, but no need to talk like that. Also implying due to that they are the problem for their religious beliefs which necessitate their actions, and pushing their child, which yes I understand it is stressful but nobody needs to be blamed or considered at fault. You can have issues/stress with people without it being anyone's fault, especially if it's their religion.

I don't think you're seeing through bullshit in that regard but rather letting their beliefs get to you personally and overreacting overly aggressively here.

Look, you may disagree and it may get to you.
However remember no one's at fault and try to solve it without saying it's anyone's or anything's fault.

What you described is commonplace in civilized society so you need to understand this as it is key and cool down.

Talking to you as a fellow autistic person.


You being offended sounded like I was generalizing the religious population, while in reality I was describing the behavior of two people. I am the narrator of the story, and you have every right to doubt me (especially if something I say is inconsistent) however it is entirely unfounded to say "they see it as more than that" having no idea who these people even are. Whatever your beliefs, attitude, or behaviors are like as a Christian, that doesn't necessarily mean those folks had the same beliefs, so getting offended seems out of place.

Pro tip: don't say anything bad or humorous about Christianity around this guy if you don't like overreactions.
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Postby Thermodolia » Fri May 31, 2019 9:43 am

The Rich Port wrote:I've also noticed I dislike the quiet. I have to have the radio or my laptop playing YouTube or music at all times of the day. Makes me wonder if it's driving my poor mom insane, but I also kinda don't want to turn it off.

I don’t think that’s something that only autistic people dislike. I grew up in an extremely loud environment, 100% quiet is just strange to me and slightly unnerving.

So I’d say that’s more about your environment than any disorder
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