Ukraine Has Not Yet Voted-Round 3(The Rada Runaround)

[ShakaZuli]

Yep, totally pro-Jewish, no antisemitism here... /sarcasm

Daily reminder that the main sponsor of the Azov batallion, know for being neo-Nazi is Ihor Kolomoyskyi.

Here is how he looks like

[ShakaZuli]

Ukrainian WW2 nationalists were utter shitheads who deserved a collective show trial and a death sentence, however, he had no reason to and should not have apologised on behalf of Ukraine because of demands from a crackpot state 500 miles south.

Poroshenko is a half-Jew so it is not a problem for him to apologise on behave of a foreign nation.

According to the popular Russian television channel Russia-1, Poroshenko’s father was a Jew named Alexei Valtsman from the Odessa region who in 1956 took on the last name of his wife, Yevgenya Poroshenko.
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Last year, Poroshenko’s spokeswoman asked Forbes Israel to remove her boss’ name from a list of the world’s richest Jews, a magazine source confirmed.

https://forward.com/news/world/198758/u ... oroshenko/

Ukrainian nationalists are most dumb political factor on the entire world. They are usefull idiots.

[Trumptonium1]

You: 'Here I will prove to you X is antisemitic by showing you an article that his friend Y ironically did a nazi salute like Mr. Korwin-Mikke in EP for the luls'

Yup, makes X antisemitic no doubt.

Israel can't pull the holocaust card on Occupied Nations, and I have no interest in what they have to say on that matter. For whatever reason they believe they have the moral authority to decide the facts of what happened 80 years ago. More than that they lost all credibility when they attempted to portray the Polish underground movement as antisemites and demanded the right to call Auschwitz et al. 'Polish'.

Ukrainian WW2 nationalists were utter shitheads who deserved a collective show trial and a death sentence, however, he had no reason to and should not have apologised on behalf of Ukraine because of demands from a crackpot state 500 miles south.

The reason that said apology was demanded was that Neo-Nazis rose with Euromaidan, including Lyashko: https://pando.com/2014/10/30/omidyar-fu ... arliament/

Shortly before the elections, on October 17, Zalishchuk used her Omidyar-funded outfit, “Chesno,” to organize a roundtable with leaders of pro-EU and neo-fascist parties. It was called “Parliament for Reform” and it brought together leaders from eight parties, including Zalishchuk’s “Poroshenko Bloc” (she served as both NGO organizer and as pro-Poroshenko party candidate), the prime minister’s “People’s Party” and leaders from two unabashedly neo-Nazi parties: Svoboda, and the Radical Party of Oleh Lyashko, who was denounced by Amnesty International for posting YouTube videos of himself interrogating naked and hooded pro-Russian separatist prisoners. Lyashko's campaign posters featured him impaling a caricatured Jewish oligarch on a Ukrainian trident.

Not sure what makes you think the words of silly organisations like Amnesty International or Southern Poverty Law Centre should be taken as some kind of fact. Posting videos caricaturing torture is not neo-nazi, lest you believe that the American mainstream is neo-nazi for permitting it openly, and two, this was not an official campaign poster, because suspiciously, it was never found anywhere else other than pro-Russian twitter accounts. In the exact same background and angle... That plus this guy who is unabashedly a Russian separatist.

He has 13 000 images on his Facebook account. Not one of them includes that poster. https://www.facebook.com/O.Liashko

I don't read Cyrillic, but from all the possible places his own website could have had images (http://liashko.ua/), one that definitely isn't there is the alleged one. Also that caricatured Jew looks like Kolomoisky, a political enemy of Liashko and one of Tymoshenko's closest aides.

Please don't spread fake news, be it from Amnesty/SPLC/Sputnik/RT/CNN whatever.

[Shofercia]

Yep, totally pro-Jewish, no antisemitism here... /sarcasm

Daily reminder that the main sponsor of the Azov batallion, know for being neo-Nazi is Ihor Kolomoyskyi.

Here is how he looks like

You can have self-hating Jews, although it'd be funny if he married Rachel Dolezal. Also, Ukraine's fucked up.

[Shofercia]

The reason that said apology was demanded was that Neo-Nazis rose with Euromaidan, including Lyashko: https://pando.com/2014/10/30/omidyar-fu ... arliament/

Not sure what makes you think the words of silly organisations like Amnesty International or Southern Poverty Law Centre should be taken as some kind of fact. Posting videos caricaturing torture is not neo-nazi, lest you believe that the American mainstream is neo-nazi for permitting it openly, and two, this was not an official campaign poster, because suspiciously, it was never found anywhere else other than pro-Russian twitter accounts. In the exact same background and angle... That plus this guy who is unabashedly a Russian separatist.

He has 13 000 images on his Facebook account. Not one of them includes that poster. https://www.facebook.com/O.Liashko

I don't read Cyrillic, but from all the possible places his own website could have had images (http://liashko.ua/), one that definitely isn't there is the alleged one. Also that caricatured Jew looks like Kolomoisky, a political enemy of Liashko and one of Tymoshenko's closest aides.

Please don't spread fake news, be it from Amnesty/SPLC/Sputnik/RT/CNN whatever.

The article I quoted was written by Mark Ames, who was kicked out of Russia, so he's hardly a Putin fanboy. But for you, Lyashko's the golden boy, mostly because you think he'll be able to return the Ukrainian refugees from your beloved Poland, so you're willing to dismiss charges against him. And even a broken clock is right twice a day, so if sources from many, opposing different factions are all saying the same thing, perhaps there's some truth to it. Here's yet another source that I already know you'll hate: https://www.marxist.com/the-far-right-i ... iament.htm

The main beneficiary of Svoboda’s decline was the right wing populist Lyashko’s Radical Party. Lyashko had spent most of the initial phase of the so-called “anti-terrorist operation” dressed in black paramilitary fatigues, participating directly in capturing, threatening and torturing “terrorists” in the East. He had also made an alliance with a section of the neo-nazi Social-Nationalist Assembly, with some of its members being elected to the Kyiv City Council on the Radical Party list.

Lyashko’s Radical Party list, which received 1.17 million votes and elected 22 members, can be considered as a whole as far right, and includes particularly nasty neo-nazi elements like Igor Mosiychuk. Mosiychuk has a long past in neo-nazi organisations, having been part of the UNA-UNSO in the 1990s. The Ukrainian National Assembly – Ukrainian People’s Self-Defense was a violent fascist organisation which predates most contemporary far right organisations in Ukraine today. After the collapse of the UNA-UNSO in 1998, he joined the Social National Party of Ukraine, an openly neo-nazi organisation which later on in 2004 changed its name, toned down a bit its public rhetoric and became Svoboda.

[Rio Cana]

The least toxic candidate seems to be Zlensky.

[ShakaZuli]

Daily reminder that the main sponsor of the Azov batallion, know for being neo-Nazi is Ihor Kolomoyskyi.

Here is how he looks like

You can have self-hating Jews, although it'd be funny if he married Rachel Dolezal. Also, Ukraine's fucked up.

Or, Kolomoyskyi opportunistically use the ukrainian nationalist as usefull idiots. It is more plausible.

[Shofercia]

You can have self-hating Jews, although it'd be funny if he married Rachel Dolezal. Also, Ukraine's fucked up.

Or, Kolomoyskyi opportunistically use the ukrainian nationalist as usefull idiots. It is more plausible.

In this case he's backing Zelensky, who's not a Neo Nazi. And yes, he is an opportunistic parasite, but that doesn't mean that you have to deliberately elongate his nose to take a shot at other Jews.

[ShakaZuli]

Or, Kolomoyskyi opportunistically use the ukrainian nationalist as usefull idiots. It is more plausible.

In this case he's backing Zelensky, who's not a Neo Nazi. And yes, he is an opportunistic parasite, but that doesn't mean that you have to deliberately elongate his nose to take a shot at other Jews.

Since the left can call out all white people for racism, slavery and all bad things in the world and make general assumption, I don`t see a problem if I take a notice that there is a strong jewish element among russian and ukrainian oligarchs. I`m not "taking shot at other Jews" since thoose oligarchs are not a majority of all Jews. Also, the first president of Lugansk Peoples Republic Igor Plotnitsky said that Jews were responsible for the Euromaidan Revolution.

During a lecture last week titled “Contemporary Ukraine as Fascist State of a New Type” at the Nekrasov State University of Kostroma in Russia, Igor Plotnitsky, who heads the Luhansk People’s Republic – a Kremlin- backed separatist enclave in eastern Ukraine – asserted that while he is not an anti-Semite, the fact that Jews are in control of Ukraine is inescapable.

[Shofercia]

In this case he's backing Zelensky, who's not a Neo Nazi. And yes, he is an opportunistic parasite, but that doesn't mean that you have to deliberately elongate his nose to take a shot at other Jews.

Since the left can call out all white people for racism, slavery and all bad things in the world and make general assumption, I don`t see a problem if I take a notice that there is a strong jewish element among russian and ukrainian oligarchs. I`m not "taking shot at other Jews" since thoose oligarchs are not a majority of all Jews. Also, the first president of Lugansk Peoples Republic Igor Plotnitsky said that Jews were responsible for the Euromaidan Revolution.

During a lecture last week titled “Contemporary Ukraine as Fascist State of a New Type” at the Nekrasov State University of Kostroma in Russia, Igor Plotnitsky, who heads the Luhansk People’s Republic – a Kremlin- backed separatist enclave in eastern Ukraine – asserted that while he is not an anti-Semite, the fact that Jews are in control of Ukraine is inescapable.

First, I'm not a fan of identity politics, nor am I a member of "the Left" as I'm a Centrist. I'm also white, and my family never owned slaves, so I'm a bit confused as to why I have to pay that price, aside from a bunch of whiners, whining. And I've maintained that racism isn't just limited to one ethnicity.

Second, claiming that the Jews are in control of Ukraine is wrong, as that's a country run by an Oligarch Cabal, that may or may not be Jewish. If Lyashko was singling out Oligarchs, rather than Jews, and going after them, then it'd be a different story, but I think that he wants to be an Oligarch, so he's targeting Jews instead. This is akin to claiming that it's ok to exploit Africa, as long as it's done by Africans.

[ShakaZuli]

First, I'm not a fan of identity politics, nor am I a member of "the Left" as I'm a Centrist. I'm also white, and my family never owned slaves, so I'm a bit confused as to why I have to pay that price, aside from a bunch of whiners, whining. And I've maintained that racism isn't just limited to one ethnicity.

Yeah that doesn`t matter. The Left will claim despite never owning slaves you still benefit from system of white privelege (yet it is taboo to point out jewish overrepresentation). They also claim racism=power+prejudice, therefore Jews and other minorities cannot be racist. Since whites are becoming a demographically minority in the next 20 years, this will be dangeros for us since we will be a hated minorrity. Since Democrats relly entirely on minority votes, this also means a Repblican will never be able to win any elections again.

Second, claiming that the Jews are in control of Ukraine is wrong, as that's a country run by an Oligarch Cabal, that may or may not be Jewish. If Lyashko was singling out Oligarchs, rather than Jews, and going after them, then it'd be a different story, but I think that he wants to be an Oligarch, so he's targeting Jews instead. This is akin to claiming that it's ok to exploit Africa, as long as it's done by Africans.

Lyashko is not the only one signaling about it, as a posted you the link where the rebel leader Igor Plotnitsky says the same. Why don`t you adress it? Zakharchenko named the Jews as well. It is obviously from this quotes there is something into this. Also, considering that the Prime minister and President of Ukraine are ethnically Jews it is not far-fetched to say Jews rule over Ukraine. Most Oligarchs are Jews, and the two are not mutuall exclusive. Remind me which etnicity of was Yegor Gaidar, the russian prime minister who helped creating the oligarch class in first place.

Much of the Government team that has guided Russia's painful transition to a market economy is of Jewish ancestry, as are many of the country's bankers and tycoons, though few are practicing Jews.

Sergei V. Kiriyenko, the former Prime Minister, who adopted his mother's Ukrainian family name, is part Jewish, as are the former Kremlin aides Boris Y. Nemtsov and Anatoly B. Chubais. Yegor T. Gaidar, the former Prime Minister who promoted a free market, also has some Jewish ancestors.

https://www.nytimes.com/1999/03/09/worl ... -mood.html

[Shrillland]

Ukrainskya Pravda(the fairly neutral national newspaper) has just released profiles on the big six candidates for everyone to see. I'm going to put it up on the OP as well as here: https://www.pravda.com.ua/articles/2019/02/8/7205838/

[Shofercia]

First, I'm not a fan of identity politics, nor am I a member of "the Left" as I'm a Centrist. I'm also white, and my family never owned slaves, so I'm a bit confused as to why I have to pay that price, aside from a bunch of whiners, whining. And I've maintained that racism isn't just limited to one ethnicity.

Yeah that doesn`t matter. The Left will claim despite never owning slaves you still benefit from system of white privelege (yet it is taboo to point out jewish overrepresentation). They also claim racism=power+prejudice, therefore Jews and other minorities cannot be racist. Since whites are becoming a demographically minority in the next 20 years, this will be dangeros for us since we will be a hated minorrity. Since Democrats relly entirely on minority votes, this also means a Repblican will never be able to win any elections again.

People vote based on economics and that has yet to change. Democrats are pushing for Proposition 13 Repeal in California in the 2020 elections, asking Californians to vote against Californian self interest. Until that repeal passes, I'll be comfortable with my position. If that repeal passes, I'll have to reassess quite a few things, but I think that Californian voters will give the Democrats a bloody nose, while still voting heavily against Trump.

Second, claiming that the Jews are in control of Ukraine is wrong, as that's a country run by an Oligarch Cabal, that may or may not be Jewish. If Lyashko was singling out Oligarchs, rather than Jews, and going after them, then it'd be a different story, but I think that he wants to be an Oligarch, so he's targeting Jews instead. This is akin to claiming that it's ok to exploit Africa, as long as it's done by Africans.

Lyashko is not the only one signaling about it, as a posted you the link where the rebel leader Igor Plotnitsky says the same. Why don`t you adress it? Zakharchenko named the Jews as well.

Because Oligarchs, be they Jewish or not, are the real issue in Ukraine. Some happen to be Jewish, and others don't. Timoshenko, who's also in the running, is an Oligarch, and isn't Jewish. The problem with Ukraine is that unlike all post-Soviet countries, Ukraine's still living in the 1990s, and that's a huge problem. The reason that Russians can hack into Ukrainian infrastructure, is that there hasn't been a proper upgrade since the USSR did in the 1980s. That's why I'm not addressing it - I don't view it as a key issue, or a critical issue.

It is obviously from this quotes there is something into this. Also, considering that the Prime minister and President of Ukraine are ethnically Jews it is not far-fetched to say Jews rule over Ukraine. Most Oligarchs are Jews, and the two are not mutuall exclusive. Remind me which etnicity of was Yegor Gaidar, the russian prime minister who helped creating the oligarch class in first place.

How many Jews were in Georgia when Saakashvili came to power and enacted the Government sponsored theft known as "Land Reform" where his Government "reformed" land from private ownership to their very own pockets, while paying the people very little value for it? Blaming the Jews means dodging the real issue. Obviously those involved, be they Jews or not, should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law, and forced to live with the consequences of their actions. I have no issues if some nice fellow was to drop off Gorbachev in Nagorno-Karabakh, the place where Gorbachev committed ethnic cleansing.

Much of the Government team that has guided Russia's painful transition to a market economy is of Jewish ancestry, as are many of the country's bankers and tycoons, though few are practicing Jews.

Sergei V. Kiriyenko, the former Prime Minister, who adopted his mother's Ukrainian family name, is part Jewish, as are the former Kremlin aides Boris Y. Nemtsov and Anatoly B. Chubais. Yegor T. Gaidar, the former Prime Minister who promoted a free market, also has some Jewish ancestors.
https://www.nytimes.com/1999/03/09/worl ... -mood.html

And that's an example of the New York Times acting like morons, claiming "yeah, those criminals committed crimes, and have had their crimes exposed, but they shouldn't be prosecuted because they're Jews, waaa!" Crimea River NYT. I won't mind if the lot are prosecuted, heck, I'll probably cheer for it, but they should be prosecuted for being Oligarch scumbags not for being Jewish.

Let's take a look at Roman Abramovich - a Jewish financier. What crime did he commit? When he took over Chukotka, the people were fleeing the region due to a catastrophic decline in the standard of living. He revamped it, and stabilized the population, while increasing the standard of living. I'm not ready to throw him into the Nemtsov-Chubais-Gaidar lot, just because all four happen to be Jews. There are scum, and then there are owners of Chelsea FC. The two aren't always the same. Sauce: https://www.forbes.com/profile/roman-abramovich/

Roman Abramovich owns stakes in steel giant Evraz, Norilsk Nickel and the U.K.'s Chelsea soccer team; He owns the world's second-largest yacht, 533-foot Eclipse, bought for nearly $400 million in 2010; He sold a 73% stake in Sibneft to state-owned gas titan Gazprom for $13 billion in 2005; Abramovich spent $2.5 billion in the Chukotka region where he worked as governor and chairman of the local Duma from 2001 to 2013

Spent $400 million on a yacht, and $2.5 billion to raise living standard in his region. If Ukraine's Oligarchs were like that - you'd have a very different Ukraine.

[Shrillland]

Well, a brief poll update shows Zelensky is now well ahead after his platform's become better known, averaging 10 points above Poroshenko. Admittedly, I'm still not a fan of online voting myself, nor do I think getting rid of income taxes and replacing them with capital gains taxes is a good idea(why can't they have both?), but his accountability measures and plans for retaking Crimea and the Donbass are decent.

[ShakaZuli]

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Do I hear right Roman Abramovich is a positive oligarch to you? Regard Yulia Timoshenko, she might have Jewish ancestry. Also about Volodymyr Zelensky.

Zelensky was born 25 January 1978 in Kryvyi Rih, Ukrainian SSR (now Ukraine) to Jewish parents.[6][7][8][9

It seems Ukraine will be the same even if this guy wins the elections.

[Shrillland]

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Do I hear right Roman Abramovich is a positive oligarch to you? Regard Yulia Timoshenko, she might have Jewish ancestry. Also about Volodymyr Zelensky.

Zelensky was born 25 January 1978 in Kryvyi Rih, Ukrainian SSR (now Ukraine) to Jewish parents.[6][7][8][9

It seems Ukraine will be the same even if this guy wins the elections.

He's not an oligarch, and being Jewish doesn't automatically make him one.

[Bear Stearns]

Ukraine is a total basketcase and a perpetual failure socially and economically, and I hope whoever wins is the guy who closes off the flow of millions of migrants towards Poland. In the early 90s they were still one of the 20 largest economies in the world, larger than Australia, Turkey and Argentina, and were frequently named in newspapers at the time as a future "G20-like" country. Literally since the very beginning it all went to shit. By 2015 they had a smaller economy than their western neighbours Slovakia with 45 million fewer residents.

Nowadays Ukraine has a smaller GDP per capita than Nigeria and Sudan, and their minimum wage is lower than in China (and Pakistan!) in raw USD exchange rate ... and they cannot raise it any further because the Ukrainian minimum wage is already 92% of their GDP per capita -- nearly every legal employee in the country is on the minimum wage.

Russia is slightly better than represented, because their low minimum wage is a political choice rather than an economic one (20% of GDP per capita, same as the US), both could effectively double it safely (Image)

Their average wage is 950 dollars a month, compared to 1420 in Russia Greece and Turkey, 1700 in Hungary and Slovakia, 2150 in Poland, 2400 in Italy and Belgium and 3000 a month in the UK and Germany. It's worth noting that in 1990 Ukraine would have been at the forefront of the east just inches behind Portugal and Greece.

Ukraine's experience is sad no doubt. They were the most industrially advanced at the fall of the Union in 1989, had the highest wealth per capita and looked the most promising. Aside from being played around with by both the West and the East, their culture (not just politics, but also national culture) is simply toxic. Corruption is hilariously rife, you'd need a good few hundred dollars to get out of a speeding fine for doing 75 km/h in a 90 km/h speed limit on foreign plates. The legislative process is just a rubber stamp at best for whoever happens to have the most power on a given Tuesday. On a social level most I've met are awful people all-around.

Indeed. I live in Chicago, where Ukrainians abound. They do come off as a bit shiftless, neurotic, and superstitious. Their culture seems to be one of ignorance and sloth.

Maybe it's the anti-intellectualism of Orthodox Christianity, or maybe it's something inherent to Eastern Slavs.

[Shofercia]

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Do I hear right Roman Abramovich is a positive oligarch to you? Regard Yulia Timoshenko, she might have Jewish ancestry. Also about Volodymyr Zelensky.

Zelensky was born 25 January 1978 in Kryvyi Rih, Ukrainian SSR (now Ukraine) to Jewish parents.[6][7][8][9

It seems Ukraine will be the same even if this guy wins the elections.

I support Abramovich, and it's debatable whether or not he's an Oligarch. Spending $50000 per person to improve their standard of living, over a decade, doesn't sound like something that an Oligarch would do, and yet, that's something that Abramovich did for Kamchatka.

Also, almost anyone will be a slight improvement over Poroshenko. Keep in mind, he's a drunk. Pro-Russian blogger made a video titled "Poroshenko Doesn't Drink" showing several moments of drunk Poroshenko: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_uA5nVA4_o

[ShakaZuli]

Do I hear right Roman Abramovich is a positive oligarch to you? Regard Yulia Timoshenko, she might have Jewish ancestry. Also about Volodymyr Zelensky.




It seems Ukraine will be the same even if this guy wins the elections.

I support Abramovich, and it's debatable whether or not he's an Oligarch. Spending $50000 per person to improve their standard of living, over a decade, doesn't sound like something that an Oligarch would do, and yet, that's something that Abramovich did for Kamchatka.

Also, almost anyone will be a slight improvement over Poroshenko. Keep in mind, he's a drunk. Pro-Russian blogger made a video titled "Poroshenko Doesn't Drink" showing several moments of drunk Poroshenko: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_uA5nVA4_o

Of course he is an Oligarch. An oligarch is every person who made fortune over night with privatisation in the 90s. Jews make only 1% of Russia and Ukraine yet are overrepresented among Oligarchs. Maybe Abramovich did some good things, which would make him an exception. It still remains he made fortune on a very dubious way.

Is there a video where Poroshenko curses Orthodox people?

[Shrillland]

Well, thanks partially to his reputation and what looks like another scandal brewing, Zelensky's now well ahead averaging 25% in the polls with Propshenko and Tymoshenko both jockeying for second with 16%.

[Shofercia]

I support Abramovich, and it's debatable whether or not he's an Oligarch. Spending $50000 per person to improve their standard of living, over a decade, doesn't sound like something that an Oligarch would do, and yet, that's something that Abramovich did for Kamchatka.

Also, almost anyone will be a slight improvement over Poroshenko. Keep in mind, he's a drunk. Pro-Russian blogger made a video titled "Poroshenko Doesn't Drink" showing several moments of drunk Poroshenko: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_uA5nVA4_o

Of course he is an Oligarch. An oligarch is every person who made fortune over night with privatisation in the 90s. Jews make only 1% of Russia and Ukraine yet are overrepresented among Oligarchs. Maybe Abramovich did some good things, which would make him an exception. It still remains he made fortune on a very dubious way.

Is there a video where Poroshenko curses Orthodox people?

I haven't seen it, but he attempted to split the Orthodox Church. He failed. And his supporters lost money, which is actually normal for those who support Poroshenko.

Also, not every person who made a fortune in the 1990s is considered an Oligarch. Is Deripaska an Oligarch? The Liberal Press certainly describe him as one, but that very same press still believe that Crimea belongs to Ukraine. Russian Liberals, including the discredited Julia Ioffe, also referred to him as an Oligarch. However, there's a distinction between an Oligarch and a Silovik. A Silovik is someone whose assets are tied to the land, and someone who must therefore improve the lives of those in his or her district, if said Silovik wants to keep the 1990s loot.

[Shrillland]

Ukraine's news agency has said that Andriy Sadovyi, a pro-western if somewhat smaller player in the vote, has withdrawn this past week in favour of Hrytsenko: https://www.unian.info/politics/10465293-sadovyi-withdraws-from-presidential-race-in-favor-of-hrytsenko.html

Whilst polls still show Tymoshenko and Zelensky going to the Top Two.

[Shofercia]

Ukraine's news agency has said that Andriy Sadovyi, a pro-western if somewhat smaller player in the vote, has withdrawn this past week in favour of Hrytsenko: https://www.unian.info/politics/10465293-sadovyi-withdraws-from-presidential-race-in-favor-of-hrytsenko.html

Whilst polls still show Tymoshenko and Zelensky going to the Top Two.

It should be Timoshenko and Zelensky, but my guess is that Poroshenko will do everything he can to avoid that outcome; I wonder if he'll claim that Putin's rigging polls to favor Timoshenko

[Shrillland]

Ukraine's news agency has said that Andriy Sadovyi, a pro-western if somewhat smaller player in the vote, has withdrawn this past week in favour of Hrytsenko: https://www.unian.info/politics/10465293-sadovyi-withdraws-from-presidential-race-in-favor-of-hrytsenko.html

Whilst polls still show Tymoshenko and Zelensky going to the Top Two.

It should be Timoshenko and Zelensky, but my guess is that Poroshenko will do everything he can to avoid that outcome; I wonder if he'll claim that Putin's rigging polls to favor Timoshenko

Knowing him, probably. More likely he'll try to rig the polls himself.

[San Lumen]

Ukraine's news agency has said that Andriy Sadovyi, a pro-western if somewhat smaller player in the vote, has withdrawn this past week in favour of Hrytsenko: https://www.unian.info/politics/10465293-sadovyi-withdraws-from-presidential-race-in-favor-of-hrytsenko.html

Whilst polls still show Tymoshenko and Zelensky going to the Top Two.

Does Tymoshenko lead Zelensky in runoff polls?