2021 Israeli Elections IV: Now Without Netanyahu

[Shrillland]

There should be more Arab/Palestinian parties, or at least more explicitly pro-Palestinian parties.

There shouldn't be any. Being pro-Palestine in any capacity should be grounds enough to eject someone from any political office in the country, as it is by its very nature treason against the nation in general.

Technically, they're all pro-Israel in some capacity, the Basic Law requires all parties, including the Arab/Palestinian ones in the Knesset, to swear an oath that Israel has a right to exist before they can even stand for election.

[Gormwood]

Okay Kahanist.

I don't think that's really a Kahanist argument. Beyond that, do we really want to dilute the influence of the Arab List any further?

Wanting Palestinians to be unrepresented untermenschen much less driven out seems pretty Kahanist.

[Fahran]

Wanting Palestinians to be unrepresented untermenschen much less driven out seems pretty Kahanist.

Not having a party that actively promotes Palestinian interests over Israeli interests isn't the same as wanting to reduce the Arab Israelis to untermenschen.

[Zurkerx]

If the Court rules that an indicted MK can't form a government, that would most certainly end Bibi's career and any chance of getting power. Of course, I'm not sure what the makeup of the court is and given Bibi has been in power for years, I wouldn't be surprised if the court was stuff with his cronies.

Well, the 15 justices aren't political appointees strictly speaking. The President appoints them with the advice and consent of the Judicial Selection Committee, which consists of nine people: Three current justices including the Court President, two government ministers including the Justice Minister, two backbench MKs, and two Israeli Bar Association representatives. It takes a supermajority of seven to confirm a justice. With so many different groups needing to be placated, it reduces the likelihood of purely political appointments.

Oh I see: it's done differently there. Not sure how effective the system has been but I would imagine it's working good there so far. If only the US put more consideration to such a system...

But in any case, Bibi is probably fucked then.

[Angleter]

Happy new year! Have updated the poll, the OP, and the title.

Here's hoping I don't have to update the title to '2021 Israeli Election' this time next year.

[Blargoblarg]

I'm hoping Joint List does at least as well as they did in the previous election, if not better.

[Shrillland]

Bibi's addressed the nation today and has announced that he's going to ask the Knesset's House Committee, which currently doesn't exist to grant him immunity from his corruption charges: https://www.yahoo.com/news/israel-pm-seeks-immunity-buying-181758794.html

Gantz has said he'll work with Likud to form an emergency House Committee to discuss the issue as is required by the Basic Law.

[Novus America]

Bibi's addressed the nation today and has announced that he's going to ask the Knesset's House Committee, which currently doesn't exist to grant him immunity from his corruption charges: https://www.yahoo.com/news/israel-pm-seeks-immunity-buying-181758794.html

Gantz has said he'll work with Likud to form an emergency House Committee to discuss the issue as is required by the Basic Law.

His whole scheme seems to be to just delay and buy time.
Next year we can be talking about the 20th election since the one we first started discussing.

[Gormwood]

Bibi's addressed the nation today and has announced that he's going to ask the Knesset's House Committee, which currently doesn't exist to grant him immunity from his corruption charges: https://www.yahoo.com/news/israel-pm-seeks-immunity-buying-181758794.html

Gantz has said he'll work with Likud to form an emergency House Committee to discuss the issue as is required by the Basic Law.

His whole scheme seems to be to just delay and buy time.
Next year we can be talking about the 20th election since the one we first started discussing.

I wonder what the odds on the gambling sites are between if the Israeli Elections or Brexit will end first?

[Outer Sparta]

Bibi's addressed the nation today and has announced that he's going to ask the Knesset's House Committee, which currently doesn't exist to grant him immunity from his corruption charges: https://www.yahoo.com/news/israel-pm-seeks-immunity-buying-181758794.html

Gantz has said he'll work with Likud to form an emergency House Committee to discuss the issue as is required by the Basic Law.

Of course Netanyahu will delay it. Anything to keep him out of jail.

[Gormwood]

Bibi's addressed the nation today and has announced that he's going to ask the Knesset's House Committee, which currently doesn't exist to grant him immunity from his corruption charges: https://www.yahoo.com/news/israel-pm-seeks-immunity-buying-181758794.html

Gantz has said he'll work with Likud to form an emergency House Committee to discuss the issue as is required by the Basic Law.

Of course Netanyahu will delay it. Anything to keep him out of jail.

It would be amusing if Netanyahu was eventually dragged out in handcuffs kicking and screaming.

[Outer Sparta]

Of course Netanyahu will delay it. Anything to keep him out of jail.

It would be amusing if Netanyahu was eventually dragged out in handcuffs kicking and screaming.

By that point, Israel would have had their gazillionth election with the same results over and over and over again.

[Gormwood]

It would be amusing if Netanyahu was eventually dragged out in handcuffs kicking and screaming.

By that point, Israel would have had their gazillionth election with the same results over and over and over again.

Imagine the sheer destructive energy that would be released if Israel had a settled Knesset and Brexit was resolved at the same time.

[Outer Sparta]

By that point, Israel would have had their gazillionth election with the same results over and over and over again.

Imagine the sheer destructive energy that would be released if Israel had a settled Knesset and Brexit was resolved at the same time.

Maybe all Israel needs is a "Get Knesset Done" campaign.

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If Netenyahu ends up behind bars and Blue and White is part of a ruling government, I think Israel's chances for peace will be far better.

[Novus America]

If Netenyahu ends up behind bars and Blue and White is part of a ruling government, I think Israel's chances for peace will be far better.

I do not TBH.
The election is not about foreign policies.

Nor would them being elected change the fundamental problems that make peace unlikely.

However this is something quite funny. The western chattering classes care far more about the Israeli Palestinian conflict and the naive idea of making some sort of perpetual peace or final resolution than the Israelis themselves do.

No matter who wins the status quo on the policy towards the Palestinian Arabs is unlikely to change.
You probably care more about it then they do.

[Catburg]

I support Kahol Lavan.

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If Netenyahu ends up behind bars and Blue and White is part of a ruling government, I think Israel's chances for peace will be far better.

I do not TBH.
The election is not about foreign policies.

Nor would them being elected change the fundamental problems that make peace unlikely.

However this is something quite funny. The western chattering classes care far more about the Israeli Palestinian conflict and the naive idea of making some sort of perpetual peace or final resolution than the Israelis themselves do.

No matter who wins the status quo on the policy towards the Palestinian Arabs is unlikely to change.
You probably care more about it then they do.

I know that Israel's center-left isn't great on Palestinian rights, but Netenyahu is outright bloodthirsty.

[Gormwood]

So according to NPR right now Netanyahu shilled for his own immunity on TV promising amongst other things waiting for permission from the U.S. (presumably under a continued Trump administration) to annex land from the West Bank.

Remind me why Kahane Chai was outlawed in the first place, because increasing the size of Israel and driving out Palestinians was their pet project.

[Outer Sparta]

I do not TBH.
The election is not about foreign policies.

Nor would them being elected change the fundamental problems that make peace unlikely.

However this is something quite funny. The western chattering classes care far more about the Israeli Palestinian conflict and the naive idea of making some sort of perpetual peace or final resolution than the Israelis themselves do.

No matter who wins the status quo on the policy towards the Palestinian Arabs is unlikely to change.
You probably care more about it then they do.

I know that Israel's center-left isn't great on Palestinian rights, but Netenyahu is outright bloodthirsty.

Israel's center-left's domestic policy on Palestine has been making them lose support, especially their Labor Party.

[Angleter]

So according to NPR right now Netanyahu shilled for his own immunity on TV promising amongst other things waiting for permission from the U.S. (presumably under a continued Trump administration) to annex land from the West Bank.

Remind me why Kahane Chai was outlawed in the first place, because increasing the size of Israel and driving out Palestinians was their pet project.

Kach advocated taking away the citizenship of all Israeli Arabs, the forcible deportation of all Israeli Arabs or Palestinians who didn't accept this non-citizen status, and outlawing marriages between Jews and non-Jews.

There are many, many parties in Israel's history that have advocated annexing at least some of the West Bank. Plus Menachem Begin annexed East Jerusalem in 1980.

[Gormwood]

Looks like Bibi formally let the cat out of the bag.

Netanyahu, in apparent stumble, calls Israel 'nuclear power'

[Philjia]

Looks like Bibi formally let the cat out of the bag.

Netanyahu, in apparent stumble, calls Israel 'nuclear power'

Really, we've known about Israel's nuclear programme since Mordechai Vanunu leaked it in 1986 and got thrown in prison, and politicians have repeatedly mentioned it accidentally since then.

[North German Realm]

Looks like Bibi formally let the cat out of the bag.

Netanyahu, in apparent stumble, calls Israel 'nuclear power'

This is legit an Ahmadinejad-grade slip-up. Admittedly, nothing we didn't know. Honestly this guy needs to gtfo asap.

[Outer Sparta]

Looks like Bibi formally let the cat out of the bag.

Netanyahu, in apparent stumble, calls Israel 'nuclear power'

We've always known Israel has nuclear capabilities but this slip up by Netanyahu confirms it.