Canadian Politics

[Shrillland]

I think we can now say with some certainty that the cabinet reshuffle over the SNC-Lavalin mess means that the Liberals are going to lose badly.

[Dresderstan]

I think we can now say with some certainty that the cabinet reshuffle over the SNC-Lavalin mess means that the Liberals are going to lose badly.

Speaking of which, apparently the Toronto Star reported that Andrew Scheer met with SNC-Lavalin CEO Neil Bruce in May 29, 2018 to discuss the deferred prosecution agreement, and the Federal Ethics Commissioner launched an inquiry into allegations of political interference.

[Shrillland]

I think we can now say with some certainty that the cabinet reshuffle over the SNC-Lavalin mess means that the Liberals are going to lose badly.

Speaking of which, apparently the Toronto Star reported that Andrew Scheer met with SNC-Lavalin CEO Neil Bruce in May 29, 2018 to discuss the deferred prosecution agreement, and the Federal Ethics Commissioner launched an inquiry into allegations of political interference.

Wow....I knew Trudeau was in bad shape but I didn't realise it was this bad...goes to show, really. We Americans look at Britain and occasionally Australia, never paying attention to the country next door.

Anyway, back to the matter at hand, it seems unlikely that the Opposition Leader would have any reason to discuss it himself to me.

[Ubekibekibekibekistanstan]

I will go with the Greens. What I am glad about them is that they aren't so socialist in their policies. But I wish the Social Credit Party was around now.......

I agree, except for the bit about socialism. They could stand to have more, as far as I'm concerned. Then again, that would just make them even more indistinguishable from the NDP.

Wow....I knew Trudeau was in bad shape but I didn't realise it was this bad...goes to show, really. We Americans look at Britain and occasionally Australia, never paying attention to the country next door.

Anyway, back to the matter at hand, it seems unlikely that the Opposition Leader would have any reason to discuss it himself to me.

I really never hear much about Australia, tbh. We've been having trade with Canada get into the news more lately.

[Dresderstan]

Speaking of which, apparently the Toronto Star reported that Andrew Scheer met with SNC-Lavalin CEO Neil Bruce in May 29, 2018 to discuss the deferred prosecution agreement, and the Federal Ethics Commissioner launched an inquiry into allegations of political interference.

Wow....I knew Trudeau was in bad shape but I didn't realize it was this bad...goes to show, really. We Americans look at Britain and occasionally Australia, never paying attention to the country next door.

That explains why this thread can't stay alive for more than a day after I posted it.

[Shrillland]

Wow....I knew Trudeau was in bad shape but I didn't realize it was this bad...goes to show, really. We Americans look at Britain and occasionally Australia, never paying attention to the country next door.

That explains why this thread can't stay alive for more than a day after I posted it.

That and the election is still eight months away, so the Canadian NSGers aren't really focusing on it yet.

[Shrillland]

I will go with the Greens. What I am glad about them is that they aren't so socialist in their policies. But I wish the Social Credit Party was around now.......

I agree, except for the bit about socialism. They could stand to have more, as far as I'm concerned. Then again, that would just make them even more indistinguishable from the NDP.

Wow....I knew Trudeau was in bad shape but I didn't realise it was this bad...goes to show, really. We Americans look at Britain and occasionally Australia, never paying attention to the country next door.

Anyway, back to the matter at hand, it seems unlikely that the Opposition Leader would have any reason to discuss it himself to me.

I really never hear much about Australia, tbh. We've been having trade with Canada get into the news more lately.

Oh, I've been hearing about the trade disputes certainly, but that affects us. We never hear about the inner workings very often.

[Dresderstan]

That explains why this thread can't stay alive for more than a day after I posted it.

That and the election is still eight months away, so the Canadian NSGers aren't really focusing on it yet.

Yeah, but there's also three byelections on the same day in a couple of weeks, especially in Burnaby South where the NDP leader is contesting, so I would have expected something in terms of that, or in the old NDP leader's seat of Outremont.

[Shrillland]

That and the election is still eight months away, so the Canadian NSGers aren't really focusing on it yet.

Yeah, but there's also three byelections on the same day in a couple of weeks, especially in Burnaby South where the NDP leader is contesting, so I would have expected something in terms of that, or in the old NDP leader's seat of Outremont.

Well, it doesn't help that there's no polling that I can find for any of the ridings involved.

[Walenstein]

I'll be finally able to vote for the first time since I immigrated here (got my citizenship a couple months ago).

And that vote will be for Bernier's People's Party of Canada. I can't bring myself to support the liberals or the NDP, if anything mainly because of the bullshit carbon tax that will do jack shit but take more money out of my pockets (I will not use any of my 3 vehicles any less, and neither will likely >95% of other vehicle owners, either).

And I can't bring myself to support Scheer's Conservatives over the whole supply managment ordeal.


EDIT: I'll actually be able to vote in the Burnaby South by-election, aswell.

[Dresderstan]

I'll be finally able to vote for the first time since I immigrated here (got my citizenship a couple months ago).

And that vote will be for Bernier's People's Party of Canada. I can't bring myself to support the liberals or the NDP, if anything mainly because of the bullshit carbon tax that will do jack shit but take more money out of my pockets (I will not use any of my 3 vehicles any less, and neither will likely >95% of other vehicle owners, either).

And I can't bring myself to support Scheer's Conservative over the whole supply managment ordeal.


EDIT: I'll actually be able to vote in the Burnaby South by-election in a little over a month, aswell.

Wait so can you vote in time for the by-election, because it is on the 25th of this month?

[Walenstein]

I'll be finally able to vote for the first time since I immigrated here (got my citizenship a couple months ago).

And that vote will be for Bernier's People's Party of Canada. I can't bring myself to support the liberals or the NDP, if anything mainly because of the bullshit carbon tax that will do jack shit but take more money out of my pockets (I will not use any of my 3 vehicles any less, and neither will likely >95% of other vehicle owners, either).

And I can't bring myself to support Scheer's Conservative over the whole supply managment ordeal.


EDIT: I'll actually be able to vote in the Burnaby South by-election in a little over a month, aswell.

Wait so can you vote in time for the by-election, because it is on the 25th of this month?

Correct, it's actually in a few weeks not a month, but yeah I will be able to since I'm now a Canadian citizen.

[Dresderstan]

Wait so can you vote in time for the by-election, because it is on the 25th of this month?

Correct, it's actually in a few weeks not a month, but yeah I will be able to since I'm now a Canadian citizen.

And I assume you'll be voting for the PPC candidate.

[Walenstein]

Correct, it's actually in a few weeks not a month, but yeah I will be able to since I'm now a Canadian citizen.

And I assume you'll be voting for the PPC candidate.

Unless something changes between now and then lol, yep, Laura-Lynn Thompson will recieve my vote.

[Dresderstan]

Trudeau’s Commitment to Indigenous Groups Tested by Minister’s Resignation

[Shrillland]

Trudeau’s Commitment to Indigenous Groups Tested by Minister’s Resignation

I wouldn't go so far as to say he was stabbing the First Nations in the back, merely that he's getting rid of a prosecutor who was on to him.

[Dresderstan]

Trudeau’s Commitment to Indigenous Groups Tested by Minister’s Resignation

I wouldn't go so far as to say he was stabbing the First Nations in the back, merely that he's getting rid of a prosecutor who was on to him.

So he's being corrupt and violating federal ethics. Either way it's hurting him and his government. I still think he will be in power come October but with either a reduced majority or in a minority government.

[Shrillland]

I wouldn't go so far as to say he was stabbing the First Nations in the back, merely that he's getting rid of a prosecutor who was on to him.

So he's being corrupt and violating federal ethics. Either way it's hurting him and his government. I still think he will be in power come October but with either a reduced majority or in a minority government.

Well, the Liberals did manage to survive Sponsorgate 15 years ago, at least at first, but I'm not sure that Trudeau is made from the same stuff that Chretien is or even his father was. He was already slumping and nearly equal with Scheer in the polls before this, I'm thinking we could see a Conservative Minority government ere all is over.

[Dresderstan]

So he's being corrupt and violating federal ethics. Either way it's hurting him and his government. I still think he will be in power come October but with either a reduced majority or in a minority government.

Well, the Liberals did manage to survive Sponsorgate 15 years ago, at least at first, but I'm not sure that Trudeau is made from the same stuff that Chretien is or even his father was. He was already slumping and nearly equal with Scheer in the polls before this, I'm thinking we could see a Conservative Minority government ere all is over.

And yet in the polls, the Liberals are ahead withing about 4 points or less, and sometimes more. I see like 1 or two polls where the conservatives are ahead, and everything else the Liberals are ahead. If the Liberals underperform in the three byelections in the next couple of weeks, i.e. they don't win Outremont or Burnaby South, (Let's be real York-Simcoe is staying conservative, then again Canadian politics are weird and massive changes happen more often than need be) it could hurt the Liberals more, help the NDP and maybe the Tories and PPC.

[Shrillland]

Well, the Liberals did manage to survive Sponsorgate 15 years ago, at least at first, but I'm not sure that Trudeau is made from the same stuff that Chretien is or even his father was. He was already slumping and nearly equal with Scheer in the polls before this, I'm thinking we could see a Conservative Minority government ere all is over.

And yet in the polls, the Liberals are ahead withing about 4 points or less, and sometimes more. I see like 1 or two polls where the conservatives are ahead, and everything else the Liberals are ahead. If the Liberals underperform in the three byelections in the next couple of weeks, i.e. they don't win Outremont or Burnaby South, (Let's be real York-Simcoe is staying conservative, then again Canadian politics are weird and massive changes happen more often than need be) it could hurt the Liberals more, help the NDP and maybe the Tories and PPC.

I doubt the PPC will go far, if the polls are anything to go by Bernier will keep his seat and that's it.

[LimaUniformNovemberAlpha]

I will go with the Greens. What I am glad about them is that they aren't so socialist in their policies. But I wish the Social Credit Party was around now.......

What do you make of these moments on Elizabeth May's part?

[Kubra]

I will go with the Greens. What I am glad about them is that they aren't so socialist in their policies. But I wish the Social Credit Party was around now.......

>aren't so socialist
>I wish the social credit part was still around

serious question: do you live in Alberta?

[Major-Tom]

I feel bad, in some respects, for Mr. Singh. He's clearly genuine, well-meaning and authentic, but his ability to resonate with voters has been near null. I admire many aspects of his platform, but damn, with the NDP, it's just one step forward and four steps backwards in regards to communicating to voters.

I can easily foresee a Liberal minority government, hanging on by a thread, come October. In that scenario, I could also see the NDP's share of seats knocked down substantially, and the Greens perhaps gaining a seat or even two/three. As for the PPC, god, they're dead in the water. 1-2% in every poll? I'm no fan of the PPC by any definition, but jesus, I thought they'd be at least polling near 5% at this point.

[Shrillland]

I feel bad, in some respects, for Mr. Singh. He's clearly genuine, well-meaning and authentic, but his ability to resonate with voters has been near null. I admire many aspects of his platform, but damn, with the NDP, it's just one step forward and four steps backwards in regards to communicating to voters.

I can easily foresee a Liberal minority government, hanging on by a thread, come October. In that scenario, I could also see the NDP's share of seats knocked down substantially, and the Greens perhaps gaining a seat or even two/three. As for the PPC, god, they're dead in the water. 1-2% in every poll? I'm no fan of the PPC by any definition, but jesus, I thought they'd be at least polling near 5% at this point.

You have to keep in mind that Bernier has always been an alternately colurful and toxic figure in Ottawa for a long time. The PPC is just his way at getting back at the Tory establishment for being mad at his book. He had called Quebecois dairy farmers "false conservatives" in a preview last year because they supported Scheer and opposed Bernier's plans to abolish supply management(their way of regulating agricultural production), and then decided Scheer wasn't good enough. After he promised not to publish the book to keep the party united...he published it anyway.

[Battlion]

So.... that SNC-Lavalin scandal is actually having an impact....

Now this election is getting more exciting