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Postby Free Arabian Nation » Mon Feb 11, 2019 1:02 pm

Greater Carolinas wrote:
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Stop

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Postby Greater Carolinas » Mon Feb 11, 2019 1:04 pm

The New California Republic wrote:
Greater Carolinas wrote:Stop

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Social Democrats are unnatural and abominations of nature, not even a bolshevik is as bad as the "social" "democrat"

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Postby The New California Republic » Mon Feb 11, 2019 1:04 pm

Free Arabian Nation wrote:
Greater Carolinas wrote:Stop

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Authoritarian Democracy

Postby Kustonia » Mon Feb 11, 2019 1:05 pm

Fascism and traditionalism
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Postby Hystaria » Mon Feb 11, 2019 1:31 pm

The New California Republic wrote:
Free Arabian Nation wrote:So radical centrism?

To be honest the egalitarian element probably shifts him just left of center. I'd need more details on what said egalitarian views involve specifically in order to say for certain.

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Postby Hystaria » Mon Feb 11, 2019 1:34 pm

Greater Carolinas wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:?

Social Democrats are unnatural and abominations of nature, not even a bolshevik is as bad as the "social" "democrat"

....all parties are unnatural in some way....also explain yourself
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Postby The New California Republic » Mon Feb 11, 2019 1:36 pm

Hystaria wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:To be honest the egalitarian element probably shifts him just left of center. I'd need more details on what said egalitarian views involve specifically in order to say for certain.

People should not be judged for where they were born, their color of skin, and/or who they want to fuck. but their character and what they do

Ah right OK. I incorrectly interpreted the way you used it as meaning economic egalitarianism, which would have obviously pushed you to the left.
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Postby Hystaria » Mon Feb 11, 2019 1:45 pm

The New California Republic wrote:
Hystaria wrote:People should not be judged for where they were born, their color of skin, and/or who they want to fuck. but their character and what they do

Ah right OK. I incorrectly interpreted the way you used it as meaning economic egalitarianism, which would have obviously pushed you to the left.

Ohhh, no, I feel like forcing people into economic equality unnaturally by taxes and the such, would be unequal and stomps on any growth.
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Postby Azlaake » Mon Feb 11, 2019 1:49 pm

My political ideology is Leftist- Libertarian

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Democratic Socialists

Postby The Archregimancy » Mon Feb 11, 2019 2:01 pm

Greater Carolinas wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:?

Social Democrats are unnatural and abominations of nature, not even a bolshevik is as bad as the "social" "democrat"


*** Warned for trolling. ***

Don't call your fellow posters 'unnatural' and 'abominations of nature'.

Expressing an opinion that you personally believe social democrats to be worse than Bolsheviks is absolutely fine, mind.

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Postby Neihchfer » Mon Feb 11, 2019 2:33 pm

Kustonia wrote:Fascism and traditionalism

Eyyyy, fellow Identitarian! Nice to hear someone else is part of the movement for Mother Europa. But Socialism? really?
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Postby The Galactic Liberal Democracy » Mon Feb 11, 2019 7:47 pm

Neihchfer wrote:
Kustonia wrote:Fascism and traditionalism

Eyyyy, fellow Identitarian! Nice to hear someone else is part of the movement for Mother Europa. But Socialism? really?

They never said anything about socialism and fascism is anti-Marxist.
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Democratic Socialists

Postby Byzconia » Mon Feb 11, 2019 7:54 pm

The Galactic Liberal Democracy wrote:
Neihchfer wrote:Eyyyy, fellow Identitarian! Nice to hear someone else is part of the movement for Mother Europa. But Socialism? really?

They never said anything about socialism and fascism is anti-Marxist.

It's in their sig:

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How on Earth they think those things are compatible is another thing entirely, though. (Though, given the sig also says they're a fan of Oswald Spengler, presumably by "socialism" they mean "Prussian socialism" or Strasserism--which aren't actually socialist, but I digress.)
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Postby The Galactic Liberal Democracy » Mon Feb 11, 2019 7:59 pm

Byzconia wrote:How on Earth they think those things are compatible is another thing entirely, though. (Though, given the sig also says they're a fan of Oswald Spengler, presumably by "socialism" they mean "Prussian socialism" or Strasserism--which aren't actually socialist, but I digress.)

Just another fake socialist I guess. There are a lot of them anyway.
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Postby Cekoviu » Mon Feb 11, 2019 8:33 pm

Neihchfer wrote:
Kustonia wrote:Fascism and traditionalism

Eyyyy, fellow Identitarian! Nice to hear someone else is part of the movement for Mother Europa. But Socialism? really?

Ow, I think I cut myself on that edge
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Postby Sicaris » Mon Feb 11, 2019 8:48 pm

Cekoviu wrote:
Neihchfer wrote:Eyyyy, fellow Identitarian! Nice to hear someone else is part of the movement for Mother Europa. But Socialism? really?

Ow, I think I cut myself on that edge


Because hating socialism is so edgy
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Postby The Supreme Magnificent High Swaglord » Mon Feb 11, 2019 8:52 pm

Sicaris wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:Ow, I think I cut myself on that edge


Because hating socialism is so edgy


I thought that the edgy part was the Identitarianism, tbh. :unsure:
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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Mon Feb 11, 2019 8:53 pm

The Galactic Liberal Democracy wrote:
Neihchfer wrote:Eyyyy, fellow Identitarian! Nice to hear someone else is part of the movement for Mother Europa. But Socialism? really?

They never said anything about socialism and fascism is anti-Marxist.

The player says that he supports socialism in his forum signature. Just because the player isn't Marxist doesn't mean he or she can't be a socialist.
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Postby Kustonia » Mon Feb 11, 2019 8:54 pm

The Galactic Liberal Democracy wrote:
Byzconia wrote:How on Earth they think those things are compatible is another thing entirely, though. (Though, given the sig also says they're a fan of Oswald Spengler, presumably by "socialism" they mean "Prussian socialism" or Strasserism--which aren't actually socialist, but I digress.)

Just another fake socialist I guess. There are a lot of them anyway.


Socialism does not have one single definition. Socialism just isn't of the Left, but can be Right-wing as well. Many philosophers and scientists have been unable to categorize socialism because of its wide-range of adherents and followers.
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Postby Western Revinalia » Mon Feb 11, 2019 8:58 pm

I've yet to find anything within Fascism that I disagree with, though I refrain from labeling myself anything I'm not 100% sure of and able to explain entirely.

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Postby Kustonia » Mon Feb 11, 2019 9:09 pm

Western Revinalia wrote:I've yet to find anything within Fascism that I disagree with, though I refrain from labeling myself anything I'm not 100% sure of and able to explain entirely.


I think that it is time to take action, and in order to do that, it takes identifying yourself and what you stand for. If you support Fascism, I suggest joining a region that advocates that and learning and growing within our community.
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Postby Kustonia » Mon Feb 11, 2019 9:13 pm

The Supreme Magnificent High Swaglord wrote:
Sicaris wrote:
Because hating socialism is so edgy


I thought that the edgy part was the Identitarianism, tbh. :unsure:


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Democratic Socialists

Postby Byzconia » Mon Feb 11, 2019 9:14 pm

LiberNovusAmericae wrote:
The Galactic Liberal Democracy wrote:They never said anything about socialism and fascism is anti-Marxist.

The player says that he supports socialism in his forum signature. Just because the player isn't Marxist doesn't mean he or she can't be a socialist.

True, but you can't be both fascist and socialist. Corporatism and social ownership are diametrically opposed systems (and that's outright ignoring the philosophical differences).

Kustonia wrote:
The Galactic Liberal Democracy wrote:Just another fake socialist I guess. There are a lot of them anyway.


Socialism does not have one single definition.

Socialism is the social/common ownership of the means of production. This is literally the definition that has been supported by all socialists since Marx's time. Are there different interpretations in how to apply it? Sure, but fascism ain't it.

Socialism just isn't of the Left, but can be Right-wing as well.

While socialists can be conservative (theoretically), there's a massive difference between conservatism (the moderate right) and fascism (the far right). The latter is wholly incompatible with every aspect of socialist philosophy.

Many philosophers and scientists have been unable to categorize socialism because of its wide-range of adherents and followers.

As someone with an academic background in political science, I can tell you that this false. Socialism is "left-wing" by every traditional understanding of the term. The thing some political scientists have a hard time categorizing is fascism (though, this is mostly for ideological reasons than scientific ones--i.e. they don't want "their side" to be associated with fascism). General consensus is that fascism is far-right (some have made a push to categorize it as an extremist populist form of radical centrism, but this hasn't really caught on as of yet--and is unlikely to, in my opinion).
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Postby Kustonia » Mon Feb 11, 2019 9:18 pm

Byzconia wrote:
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:The player says that he supports socialism in his forum signature. Just because the player isn't Marxist doesn't mean he or she can't be a socialist.

True, but you can't be both fascist and socialist. Corporatism and social ownership are diametrically opposed systems (and that's outright ignoring the philosophical differences).

Kustonia wrote:
Socialism does not have one single definition.

Socialism is the social/common ownership of the means of production. This is literally the definition that has been supported by all socialists since Marx's time. Are there different interpretations in how to apply it? Sure, but fascism ain't it.

Socialism just isn't of the Left, but can be Right-wing as well.

While socialists can be conservative (theoretically), there's a massive difference between conservatism (the moderate right) and fascism (the far right). The latter is wholly incompatible with every aspect of socialist philosophy.

Many philosophers and scientists have been unable to categorize socialism because of its wide-range of adherents and followers.

As someone with an academic background in political science, I can tell you that this false. Socialism is "left-wing" by every traditional understanding of the term. The thing some political scientists have a hard time categorizing is fascism (though, this is mostly for ideological reasons than scientific ones--i.e. they don't want "their side" to be associated with fascism). General consensus is that fascism is far-right (some have made a push to categorize it as an extremist populist form of radical centrism, but this hasn't really caught on as of yet--and is unlikely to, in my opinion).


I support corporatism as a means for social ownership. I support class collaboration and Prussian Socialism. How would you categorize me? Am I a Conservative Socialist? Fascist? Strasserist?
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Postby The Supreme Magnificent High Swaglord » Mon Feb 11, 2019 9:22 pm

Kustonia wrote:
Byzconia wrote:True, but you can't be both fascist and socialist. Corporatism and social ownership are diametrically opposed systems (and that's outright ignoring the philosophical differences).


Socialism is the social/common ownership of the means of production. This is literally the definition that has been supported by all socialists since Marx's time. Are there different interpretations in how to apply it? Sure, but fascism ain't it.


While socialists can be conservative (theoretically), there's a massive difference between conservatism (the moderate right) and fascism (the far right). The latter is wholly incompatible with every aspect of socialist philosophy.


As someone with an academic background in political science, I can tell you that this false. Socialism is "left-wing" by every traditional understanding of the term. The thing some political scientists have a hard time categorizing is fascism (though, this is mostly for ideological reasons than scientific ones--i.e. they don't want "their side" to be associated with fascism). General consensus is that fascism is far-right (some have made a push to categorize it as an extremist populist form of radical centrism, but this hasn't really caught on as of yet--and is unlikely to, in my opinion).


I support corporatism as a means for social ownership. I support class collaboration and Prussian Socialism. How would you categorize me? Am I a Conservative Socialist? Fascist? Strasserist?


It depends on how traditionalist you mean when you say "traditionalist".
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