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What is your political ideology?

Conservative
33
17%
Republican
5
3%
Authortarian
11
6%
Liberal
24
13%
Libertarian
22
12%
National Socialist
13
7%
Fascist
10
5%
Neo-Liberal
4
2%
Anarchist
17
9%
Other/apolitical
52
27%
 
Total votes : 191

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The Galactic Liberal Democracy
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Postby The Galactic Liberal Democracy » Wed Jan 30, 2019 5:32 pm

Western Vale Confederacy wrote:
Y'know, when I once heard a NazBol unironically state that NazBol was the natural final outcome of nationalism...

I think they're still memelords.

National Bolshevism goes against every ideology the Bolsheviks ever had, so it's name is a lie. Also, for every non-nazbol out there, I highly recommend hiding if you see one.
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Cossack Khanate wrote:This shall forever be known as World War Sh*t: Newark Aggression. Now if I see one more troop deployed, I will call on the force of all the Hindu gods to reverse time and wipe your race of the face of the planet. Cease.

The Black Party wrote:(TBP kamikaze's into all 99999999999 nukes before they hit our territory because we just have that many pilots ready to die for dah blak regime, we also counter-attack into your nation with our entire population of 45 million because this RP allows it.)

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Galatic Liberal Democracy short-circuits all of NS with FACTS and LOGIC

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National utilitarian workers republic
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Founded: Jan 24, 2019
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National utilitarianism

Postby National utilitarian workers republic » Wed Jan 30, 2019 7:17 pm

It's an ideology of my own making. It is basically a type of fascism or National socialism, but fused with libertarianism and the sort of classical liberal ideas of the founding fathers of America.

Broadly, it is nationalist, and all laws are based in principles of utility and benefit to society.

I'm writing an entire treatise on it, but I'll sum up in a few points:

-White ethnonationalism, but not pure. To say I want a white ethnostate is not inaccurate, but that doesn't mean I want everyone who isn't white removed. It also isn't opposed to ethnonationalism for other peoples in their own countries. Blacks, Jews, etc. can and should have a homeland, and they have just as much right to defend it as we whites have to defend ours.

-anti war profiteering. I'd make it a capital offense to profit from war. I'm not against wars of conquest, but that ain't what we do these days. We waste thousands of lives and trillions of dollars, and for what? A less stable world, no accomplishment, and for the profits of banks, arms dealers, etc? Absolutely vile.

-opposition to usury. I'd ban high interest loans, especially student loans, mortgages, etc.

-universal healthcare (of a sort). I'd cover all expenses for emergency care and more expensive surgeries and then bill the citizen on a sliding scale. Regular care would be individual responsibility, unless too poor.

-get rid of professional licensing mandates and business licenses. This will lower barriers to market entry and increase competition. This will drive down prices. Those whose business does harm to people or society will just be shut down and they will be punished.

-get rid of building codes and zoning laws. Disputes can be handled by courts and through arbitration.

-significantly reduce immigration, especially from the third world.

-eugenics. I'd sterilize all career criminals, welfare leeches, abusers, recidivist drug and alcohol addicts, and those with genetic disorders or low IQ. I'd also impose mandatory abortions on teen mom's (unless someone agrees to raise the baby) and those fetuses proven, in the first trimester, to have any disabling deformity or defect.

-recriminalize adultery and end no fault divorce.

-welfare reform. If you're able bodied and you don't show effort to get a job, get an education, get training, or get treatment, and six months pass with you on welfare, you're considered to be a fraud and would be sent to special jails designed to make you work and force you to get off the drugs, get treatment for your mental illness, or get training. Repet offenders go to prison and get sterilized. Mom's who are on welfare and have more kids get sterilized.

-repeal virtually all gun control and make firearms training mandatory for all able bodied adults.

-repeal all drug laws.

-abolish corporations and make business owners directly accountable to the law. If your company breaks the law, you pay for it, not just the company.

-juries determine maximum sentences at trial, and judges only have the power to reduce from there, a thing which can be appealed

-abolish life without parole, except as a form of clemency for capital crimes.

-maximum sentence of 20-life for all normal crimes. All violent felons are automatically given X-life sentences, where X is the minimum given by the jury.

-crimes like serial murder, rape, armed robbery, child abuse, being in organized crime, terrorism (if it causes death or serious injury), treason, large scale crimes of any sort (financial fraud of the sort that hit us in 08) or even attempting these things gets you a death sentence.

I could go on, but this is long as it is.

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Thermodolia
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Postby Thermodolia » Wed Jan 30, 2019 7:27 pm

National utilitarian workers republic wrote: Crazy shit removed


Holy fuck that’s awful.
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National utilitarian workers republic
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Founded: Jan 24, 2019
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Postby National utilitarian workers republic » Wed Jan 30, 2019 8:18 pm

I think you mean awfully awesome.

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Jingum
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Founded: Jan 26, 2019
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Postby Jingum » Wed Jan 30, 2019 8:22 pm

Stratocratical Imperial Techno-Futuristic Communist.

A real mouthful of pretentious words but I think that's the best description of it.

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The Galactic Liberal Democracy
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Founded: Jun 13, 2018
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Postby The Galactic Liberal Democracy » Wed Jan 30, 2019 8:23 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
National utilitarian workers republic wrote: Crazy shit removed


Holy fuck that’s awful.

No shit Sherlock. I too have been working on a terrible ideology. I call it national capitalism. Basically completely deregulated the market except you cut off all trade and steal property if you want. The police then do nothing except maim and kill innocents. Everything non-economic is illegal but being the same race as the leader, who regularly shoots people for fun and drugs are not regulated. You also can’t have an IQ above 10 or propose any good idea. You have no rights, but you can shoot anyone you like, unless the government later disagrees with your decision and executes you. Breathing is illegal and trying to move away is punishable with death. The state treats everyone outside the country as non-existent, but then boasts about committing war crimes with their unbelievably crappy military. It’s meant more of a meme ideology than anything serious. Any suggestions to make it even shittier?
EDIT: You also have to wave communist symbolism and hate communism. You have to kill anyone you see, including yourself, or you are unworthy.
Last edited by The Galactic Liberal Democracy on Wed Jan 30, 2019 8:33 pm, edited 2 times in total.
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Cossack Khanate wrote:This shall forever be known as World War Sh*t: Newark Aggression. Now if I see one more troop deployed, I will call on the force of all the Hindu gods to reverse time and wipe your race of the face of the planet. Cease.

The Black Party wrote:(TBP kamikaze's into all 99999999999 nukes before they hit our territory because we just have that many pilots ready to die for dah blak regime, we also counter-attack into your nation with our entire population of 45 million because this RP allows it.)

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Galatic Liberal Democracy short-circuits all of NS with FACTS and LOGIC

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National utilitarian workers republic
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Founded: Jan 24, 2019
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Postby National utilitarian workers republic » Wed Jan 30, 2019 8:26 pm

The Galactic Liberal Democracy wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:
Holy fuck that’s awful.

Any suggestions to make it even shittier?


Add communism to the mix and stir
Last edited by National utilitarian workers republic on Wed Jan 30, 2019 8:27 pm, edited 1 time in total.

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The Galactic Liberal Democracy
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Postby The Galactic Liberal Democracy » Wed Jan 30, 2019 8:28 pm

National utilitarian workers republic wrote:
Add communism to the mix and stir

Real communism would make it better, but adding communist symbolism would improve it on the meme level.
NOT STORMTROOPERS
Cossack Khanate wrote:This shall forever be known as World War Sh*t: Newark Aggression. Now if I see one more troop deployed, I will call on the force of all the Hindu gods to reverse time and wipe your race of the face of the planet. Cease.

The Black Party wrote:(TBP kamikaze's into all 99999999999 nukes before they hit our territory because we just have that many pilots ready to die for dah blak regime, we also counter-attack into your nation with our entire population of 45 million because this RP allows it.)

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Galatic Liberal Democracy short-circuits all of NS with FACTS and LOGIC

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Creslonia
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Posts: 227
Founded: Oct 27, 2017
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Postby Creslonia » Wed Jan 30, 2019 8:29 pm

Liberal in social matters, without political correctness. Very capitalist, conservative for military and foreign matters.

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LiberNovusAmericae
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Founded: Mar 10, 2018
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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Wed Jan 30, 2019 8:29 pm

The Galactic Liberal Democracy wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:
Holy fuck that’s awful.

No shit Sherlock. I too have been working on a terrible ideology. I call it national capitalism. Basically completely deregulated the market except you cut off all trade and steal property if you want. The police then do nothing except maim and kill innocents. Everything non-economic is illegal but being the same race as the leader, who regularly shoots people for fun and drugs are not regulated. You also can’t have an IQ above 10 or propose any good idea. You have no rights, but you can shoot anyone you like, unless the government later disagrees with your decision and executes you. Breathing is illegal and trying to move away is punishable with death. The state treats everyone outside the country as non-existent, but then boasts about committing war crimes with their unbelievably crappy military. It’s meant more of a meme ideology than anything serious. Any suggestions to make it even shittier?

Yes, embrace the Human Extinction Movement, and mandate that everyone participate.

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Thermodolia
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Founded: Oct 07, 2011
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Postby Thermodolia » Wed Jan 30, 2019 8:31 pm

National utilitarian workers republic wrote:I think you mean awfully awesome.

No it’s shit. It’s not awesome it’s shit
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>>Dumb Ideologies: Why not turn yourself into a penguin and build an igloo at the centre of the Earth?
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The Galactic Liberal Democracy
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Postby The Galactic Liberal Democracy » Wed Jan 30, 2019 8:31 pm

LiberNovusAmericae wrote:Yes, embrace the Human Extinction Movement, and mandate that everyone participate.

Ok, I’ll add that.
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Cossack Khanate wrote:This shall forever be known as World War Sh*t: Newark Aggression. Now if I see one more troop deployed, I will call on the force of all the Hindu gods to reverse time and wipe your race of the face of the planet. Cease.

The Black Party wrote:(TBP kamikaze's into all 99999999999 nukes before they hit our territory because we just have that many pilots ready to die for dah blak regime, we also counter-attack into your nation with our entire population of 45 million because this RP allows it.)

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Galatic Liberal Democracy short-circuits all of NS with FACTS and LOGIC

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Thermodolia
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Founded: Oct 07, 2011
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Postby Thermodolia » Wed Jan 30, 2019 8:32 pm

The Galactic Liberal Democracy wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:
Holy fuck that’s awful.

No shit Sherlock. I too have been working on a terrible ideology. I call it national capitalism. Basically completely deregulated the market except you cut off all trade and steal property if you want. The police then do nothing except maim and kill innocents. Everything non-economic is illegal but being the same race as the leader, who regularly shoots people for fun and drugs are not regulated. You also can’t have an IQ above 10 or propose any good idea. You have no rights, but you can shoot anyone you like, unless the government later disagrees with your decision and executes you. Breathing is illegal and trying to move away is punishable with death. The state treats everyone outside the country as non-existent, but then boasts about committing war crimes with their unbelievably crappy military. It’s meant more of a meme ideology than anything serious. Any suggestions to make it even shittier?

Ban bananas and Sugar
Male, Jewish, lives somewhere in AZ, Disabled US Military Veteran, Oorah!, I'm GAY!
I'm agent #69 in the Gaystapo!
>The Sons of Adam: I'd crown myself monarch... cuz why not?
>>Dumb Ideologies: Why not turn yourself into a penguin and build an igloo at the centre of the Earth?
Click for Da Funies

RIP Dya

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LiberNovusAmericae
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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Wed Jan 30, 2019 8:33 pm

National utilitarian workers republic wrote:-eugenics. I'd sterilize all career criminals, welfare leeches, abusers, recidivist drug and alcohol addicts, and those with genetic disorders or low IQ. I'd also impose mandatory abortions on teen mom's (unless someone agrees to raise the baby) and those fetuses proven, in the first trimester, to have any disabling deformity or defect.

What's the lowest IQ that you would tolerate? I'm against Eugenics, but I'm just curious.
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The Galactic Liberal Democracy
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Postby The Galactic Liberal Democracy » Wed Jan 30, 2019 8:33 pm

Thermodolia wrote:Ban bananas and Sugar

How is that evil?
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Cossack Khanate wrote:This shall forever be known as World War Sh*t: Newark Aggression. Now if I see one more troop deployed, I will call on the force of all the Hindu gods to reverse time and wipe your race of the face of the planet. Cease.

The Black Party wrote:(TBP kamikaze's into all 99999999999 nukes before they hit our territory because we just have that many pilots ready to die for dah blak regime, we also counter-attack into your nation with our entire population of 45 million because this RP allows it.)

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Galatic Liberal Democracy short-circuits all of NS with FACTS and LOGIC

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LiberNovusAmericae
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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Wed Jan 30, 2019 8:34 pm

The Galactic Liberal Democracy wrote:
National utilitarian workers republic wrote:
Add communism to the mix and stir

Real communism would make it better, but adding communist symbolism would improve it on the meme level.

Communism is fundamentally flawed.

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The Galactic Liberal Democracy
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Postby The Galactic Liberal Democracy » Wed Jan 30, 2019 8:35 pm

LiberNovusAmericae wrote:
National utilitarian workers republic wrote:-eugenics. I'd sterilize all career criminals, welfare leeches, abusers, recidivist drug and alcohol addicts, and those with genetic disorders or low IQ. I'd also impose mandatory abortions on teen mom's (unless someone agrees to raise the baby) and those fetuses proven, in the first trimester, to have any disabling deformity or defect.

What's the lowest IQ that you would tolerate? I'm against Eugenics, but I'm just curious.

I really want to say something regarding fascism, but it would probably be an ad hominem attack.
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Cossack Khanate wrote:This shall forever be known as World War Sh*t: Newark Aggression. Now if I see one more troop deployed, I will call on the force of all the Hindu gods to reverse time and wipe your race of the face of the planet. Cease.

The Black Party wrote:(TBP kamikaze's into all 99999999999 nukes before they hit our territory because we just have that many pilots ready to die for dah blak regime, we also counter-attack into your nation with our entire population of 45 million because this RP allows it.)

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Galatic Liberal Democracy short-circuits all of NS with FACTS and LOGIC

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The Galactic Liberal Democracy
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Postby The Galactic Liberal Democracy » Wed Jan 30, 2019 8:35 pm

LiberNovusAmericae wrote:Communism is fundamentally flawed.

Communism couldn’t exist under NazCap and therefore is better.
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Cossack Khanate wrote:This shall forever be known as World War Sh*t: Newark Aggression. Now if I see one more troop deployed, I will call on the force of all the Hindu gods to reverse time and wipe your race of the face of the planet. Cease.

The Black Party wrote:(TBP kamikaze's into all 99999999999 nukes before they hit our territory because we just have that many pilots ready to die for dah blak regime, we also counter-attack into your nation with our entire population of 45 million because this RP allows it.)

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Galatic Liberal Democracy short-circuits all of NS with FACTS and LOGIC

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LiberNovusAmericae
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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Wed Jan 30, 2019 8:36 pm

The Galactic Liberal Democracy wrote:
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:What's the lowest IQ that you would tolerate? I'm against Eugenics, but I'm just curious.

I really want to say something regarding fascism, but it would probably be an ad hominem attack.

Send it to me via telegram if you want. I won't tell on you.
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The Galactic Liberal Democracy
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Postby The Galactic Liberal Democracy » Wed Jan 30, 2019 8:38 pm

LiberNovusAmericae wrote:Send it to me via telegram. I won't tell on you.

Attacking the intelligence of a believer in the clusterfuck of the most evil ideologies you could actually make and have any support for isn’t very proper to do, even away from their eyes.
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Cossack Khanate wrote:This shall forever be known as World War Sh*t: Newark Aggression. Now if I see one more troop deployed, I will call on the force of all the Hindu gods to reverse time and wipe your race of the face of the planet. Cease.

The Black Party wrote:(TBP kamikaze's into all 99999999999 nukes before they hit our territory because we just have that many pilots ready to die for dah blak regime, we also counter-attack into your nation with our entire population of 45 million because this RP allows it.)

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Galatic Liberal Democracy short-circuits all of NS with FACTS and LOGIC

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LiberNovusAmericae
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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Wed Jan 30, 2019 8:41 pm

The Galactic Liberal Democracy wrote:
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:Send it to me via telegram. I won't tell on you.

Attacking the intelligence of a believer in the clusterfuck of the most evil ideologies you could actually make and have any support for isn’t very proper to do, even away from their eyes.

Understood.

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LiberNovusAmericae
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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Wed Jan 30, 2019 8:43 pm

National utilitarian workers republic wrote:I think you mean awfully awesome.

No, your proposal is crap, and I see nothing in it that even resembles the ideals of our founding fathers.

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El-Amin Caliphate
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Wed Jan 30, 2019 8:44 pm

LiberNovusAmericae wrote:
National utilitarian workers republic wrote:I think you mean awfully awesome.

No, your proposal is crap, and I see nothing in it that even resembles the ideals of our founding fathers.

Eff the founding fathers.
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BlueSyndicate
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I’m tired of all of this “taking sides”.

Postby BlueSyndicate » Wed Jan 30, 2019 8:46 pm

I'm for truth, no matter who tells it. I'm for justice, no matter who it is for or against. I'm a human being, first and foremost, and as such I'm for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole.


If you believe that humanity is doomed, change it. If you believe that there is no tomorrow, then at least realize this: Our present decisions decide our future, and our future is guided by our past. Learn from yesterday, and use today to create a better tomorrow.

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El-Amin Caliphate
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Wed Jan 30, 2019 8:48 pm

BlueSyndicate wrote:I'm for truth, no matter who tells it. I'm for justice, no matter who it is for or against. I'm a human being, first and foremost, and as such I'm for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole.


If you believe that humanity is doomed, change it. If you believe that there is no tomorrow, then at least realize this: Our present decisions decide our future, and our future is guided by our past. Learn from yesterday, and use today to create a better tomorrow.

As awesome of a post as this is, almost every political ideology believes and says this.
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