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by Free Arabian Nation » Mon Feb 11, 2019 1:02 pm
by Greater Carolinas » Mon Feb 11, 2019 1:04 pm
by The New California Republic » Mon Feb 11, 2019 1:04 pm
by Kustonia » Mon Feb 11, 2019 1:05 pm
by Hystaria » Mon Feb 11, 2019 1:31 pm
Kowani wrote:Hystaria. They’re both edgy, but only one of them is a special kind of edgy.
by Hystaria » Mon Feb 11, 2019 1:34 pm
Kowani wrote:Hystaria. They’re both edgy, but only one of them is a special kind of edgy.
by The New California Republic » Mon Feb 11, 2019 1:36 pm
Hystaria wrote:The New California Republic wrote:To be honest the egalitarian element probably shifts him just left of center. I'd need more details on what said egalitarian views involve specifically in order to say for certain.
People should not be judged for where they were born, their color of skin, and/or who they want to fuck. but their character and what they do
by Hystaria » Mon Feb 11, 2019 1:45 pm
The New California Republic wrote:Hystaria wrote:People should not be judged for where they were born, their color of skin, and/or who they want to fuck. but their character and what they do
Ah right OK. I incorrectly interpreted the way you used it as meaning economic egalitarianism, which would have obviously pushed you to the left.
Kowani wrote:Hystaria. They’re both edgy, but only one of them is a special kind of edgy.
by Azlaake » Mon Feb 11, 2019 1:49 pm
by The Archregimancy » Mon Feb 11, 2019 2:01 pm
by Neihchfer » Mon Feb 11, 2019 2:33 pm
Kustonia wrote:Fascism and traditionalism
by The Galactic Liberal Democracy » Mon Feb 11, 2019 7:47 pm
Cossack Khanate wrote:This shall forever be known as World War Sh*t: Newark Aggression. Now if I see one more troop deployed, I will call on the force of all the Hindu gods to reverse time and wipe your race of the face of the planet. Cease.
The Black Party wrote:(TBP kamikaze's into all 99999999999 nukes before they hit our territory because we just have that many pilots ready to die for dah blak regime, we also counter-attack into your nation with our entire population of 45 million because this RP allows it.)
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Galatic Liberal Democracy short-circuits all of NS with FACTS and LOGIC
by Byzconia » Mon Feb 11, 2019 7:54 pm
Pro: Nationalism, Socialism, Collectivism, Fascism, Nativism, Essentialism, Pluralism, Synocracy
by The Galactic Liberal Democracy » Mon Feb 11, 2019 7:59 pm
Byzconia wrote:How on Earth they think those things are compatible is another thing entirely, though. (Though, given the sig also says they're a fan of Oswald Spengler, presumably by "socialism" they mean "Prussian socialism" or Strasserism--which aren't actually socialist, but I digress.)
Cossack Khanate wrote:This shall forever be known as World War Sh*t: Newark Aggression. Now if I see one more troop deployed, I will call on the force of all the Hindu gods to reverse time and wipe your race of the face of the planet. Cease.
The Black Party wrote:(TBP kamikaze's into all 99999999999 nukes before they hit our territory because we just have that many pilots ready to die for dah blak regime, we also counter-attack into your nation with our entire population of 45 million because this RP allows it.)
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Galatic Liberal Democracy short-circuits all of NS with FACTS and LOGIC
by Sicaris » Mon Feb 11, 2019 8:48 pm
by The Supreme Magnificent High Swaglord » Mon Feb 11, 2019 8:52 pm
by LiberNovusAmericae » Mon Feb 11, 2019 8:53 pm
by Kustonia » Mon Feb 11, 2019 8:54 pm
The Galactic Liberal Democracy wrote:Byzconia wrote:How on Earth they think those things are compatible is another thing entirely, though. (Though, given the sig also says they're a fan of Oswald Spengler, presumably by "socialism" they mean "Prussian socialism" or Strasserism--which aren't actually socialist, but I digress.)
Just another fake socialist I guess. There are a lot of them anyway.
by Western Revinalia » Mon Feb 11, 2019 8:58 pm
by Kustonia » Mon Feb 11, 2019 9:09 pm
Western Revinalia wrote:I've yet to find anything within Fascism that I disagree with, though I refrain from labeling myself anything I'm not 100% sure of and able to explain entirely.
by Kustonia » Mon Feb 11, 2019 9:13 pm
by Byzconia » Mon Feb 11, 2019 9:14 pm
Socialism just isn't of the Left, but can be Right-wing as well.
Many philosophers and scientists have been unable to categorize socialism because of its wide-range of adherents and followers.
by Kustonia » Mon Feb 11, 2019 9:18 pm
Byzconia wrote:LiberNovusAmericae wrote:The player says that he supports socialism in his forum signature. Just because the player isn't Marxist doesn't mean he or she can't be a socialist.
True, but you can't be both fascist and socialist. Corporatism and social ownership are diametrically opposed systems (and that's outright ignoring the philosophical differences).Kustonia wrote:
Socialism does not have one single definition.
Socialism is the social/common ownership of the means of production. This is literally the definition that has been supported by all socialists since Marx's time. Are there different interpretations in how to apply it? Sure, but fascism ain't it.Socialism just isn't of the Left, but can be Right-wing as well.
While socialists can be conservative (theoretically), there's a massive difference between conservatism (the moderate right) and fascism (the far right). The latter is wholly incompatible with every aspect of socialist philosophy.Many philosophers and scientists have been unable to categorize socialism because of its wide-range of adherents and followers.
As someone with an academic background in political science, I can tell you that this false. Socialism is "left-wing" by every traditional understanding of the term. The thing some political scientists have a hard time categorizing is fascism (though, this is mostly for ideological reasons than scientific ones--i.e. they don't want "their side" to be associated with fascism). General consensus is that fascism is far-right (some have made a push to categorize it as an extremist populist form of radical centrism, but this hasn't really caught on as of yet--and is unlikely to, in my opinion).
by The Supreme Magnificent High Swaglord » Mon Feb 11, 2019 9:22 pm
Kustonia wrote:Byzconia wrote:True, but you can't be both fascist and socialist. Corporatism and social ownership are diametrically opposed systems (and that's outright ignoring the philosophical differences).
Socialism is the social/common ownership of the means of production. This is literally the definition that has been supported by all socialists since Marx's time. Are there different interpretations in how to apply it? Sure, but fascism ain't it.
While socialists can be conservative (theoretically), there's a massive difference between conservatism (the moderate right) and fascism (the far right). The latter is wholly incompatible with every aspect of socialist philosophy.
As someone with an academic background in political science, I can tell you that this false. Socialism is "left-wing" by every traditional understanding of the term. The thing some political scientists have a hard time categorizing is fascism (though, this is mostly for ideological reasons than scientific ones--i.e. they don't want "their side" to be associated with fascism). General consensus is that fascism is far-right (some have made a push to categorize it as an extremist populist form of radical centrism, but this hasn't really caught on as of yet--and is unlikely to, in my opinion).
I support corporatism as a means for social ownership. I support class collaboration and Prussian Socialism. How would you categorize me? Am I a Conservative Socialist? Fascist? Strasserist?
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