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Conservative
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17%
Republican
5
3%
Authortarian
11
6%
Liberal
24
13%
Libertarian
22
12%
National Socialist
13
7%
Fascist
10
5%
Neo-Liberal
4
2%
Anarchist
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9%
Other/apolitical
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27%
 
Total votes : 191

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Postby Page » Fri Jan 25, 2019 8:45 am

Nordengrund wrote:I’m a Georgist and a libertarian, but I think the U.S. Libertarian Party is too extreme on some issues, to me. I’m also a republican (small ‘R’).


I'm also into Georgism, although I don't identify with the ideology 100%. My ideal world is one of stateless communities that combines aspects of Georgism and anarcho-syndicalism. To elaborate, I support a free market society in which every enterprise is collectively owned by its workers, in which those who exploit resources are free to profit off what they create while the raw resources themselves belong to all, so those who exploit resources essentially pay a land tax to fund public works and universal basic income.

But while I reject the state and its claims to legitimacy, I do not object to working within the state to improve our lives while it exists, so in practice I am supportive of libertarian social democratic politicians even though I deny they have a right to rule. I'm also sympathetic toward illegalism but I don't identify with it.
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Postby Nordengrund » Fri Jan 25, 2019 8:47 am

Page wrote:
Nordengrund wrote:I’m a Georgist and a libertarian, but I think the U.S. Libertarian Party is too extreme on some issues, to me. I’m also a republican (small ‘R’).


I'm also into Georgism, although I don't identify with the ideology 100%. My ideal world is one of stateless communities that combines aspects of Georgism and anarcho-syndicalism. To elaborate, I support a free market society in which every enterprise is collectively owned by its workers, in which those who exploit resources are free to profit off what they create while the raw resources themselves belong to all, so those who exploit resources essentially pay a land tax to fund public works and universal basic income.

But while I reject the state and its claims to legitimacy, I do not object to working within the state to improve our lives while it exists, so in practice I am supportive of libertarian social democratic politicians even though I deny they have a right to rule. I'm also sympathetic toward illegalism but I don't identify with it.


I’m actually neutral towards a state or government. I’m not necessarily against it, but I do find anarchism pretty compelling, although I’m not fully on board with it.
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Postby Page » Fri Jan 25, 2019 8:55 am

Nordengrund wrote:
Page wrote:
I'm also into Georgism, although I don't identify with the ideology 100%. My ideal world is one of stateless communities that combines aspects of Georgism and anarcho-syndicalism. To elaborate, I support a free market society in which every enterprise is collectively owned by its workers, in which those who exploit resources are free to profit off what they create while the raw resources themselves belong to all, so those who exploit resources essentially pay a land tax to fund public works and universal basic income.

But while I reject the state and its claims to legitimacy, I do not object to working within the state to improve our lives while it exists, so in practice I am supportive of libertarian social democratic politicians even though I deny they have a right to rule. I'm also sympathetic toward illegalism but I don't identify with it.


I’m actually neutral towards a state or government. I’m not necessarily against it, but I do find anarchism pretty compelling, although I’m not fully on board with it.


I absolutely understand why it's difficult to get on board with anarchism, considering the fact that there is abundant evidence that most humans tend towards statism and the idea of a stateless world existing any time in the near future is rather ludicrous. That's why anarchism is seen as unrealistic and utopian and most don't think it's worth pursuing.

But my anarchism is not the type in which I believe we should actively strive for the overthrow of the state, rather I hold the philosophical position that the government has no legitimacy. For example, when the government arrests someone for smoking cannabis and locks them up in jail, I see that as a form of violence no more morally acceptable than if any private citizen would kidnap another person because they didn't like what substance their victim was using.

For me, anarchism is really more of a moral philosophy than a political ideology. I accept the non-aggression principle as the most ethical way to live, I believe it is my duty to not inflict harm on any person outside of necessary self-defense, but that I owe no obedience to anyone.
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Postby Shams and Qamar » Fri Jan 25, 2019 8:59 am

Conservative Monarchist

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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Fri Jan 25, 2019 9:01 am

I'm a classical liberal/right-libertarian, and thus I'm a supporter of free markets and limited government,

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Postby Wawakanatote » Fri Jan 25, 2019 9:08 am

I'm a Marxist-Leninist-Maoist-Dengist with Xi Jinping Thought
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Postby Page » Fri Jan 25, 2019 9:13 am

Wawakanatote wrote:I'm a Marxist-Leninist-Maoist-Dengist with Xi Jinping Thought


Okay, I'm curious. If you wouldn't mind answering a few questions:

Are you Chinese?

What about Xi Jinping thought appeals to you?

Are the politicians featured in your flag those you support?
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Postby Ghost Land » Fri Jan 25, 2019 9:41 am

LiberNovusAmericae wrote:I'm a classical liberal/right-libertarian, and thus I'm a supporter of free markets and limited government,

Me too; I'm also socially conservative and am a supporter of benevolent autocracy.
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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Fri Jan 25, 2019 10:14 am

Ghost Land wrote:
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:I'm a classical liberal/right-libertarian, and thus I'm a supporter of free markets and limited government,

Me too; I'm also socially conservative and am a supporter of benevolent autocracy.

Cool. While we're similar, I'm more socially liberal. I come up on the somewhat left leaning side of the libertarian section of the Nolan Chart, and around 4.5 places to the right on the political compass test.
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Postby Wawakanatote » Fri Jan 25, 2019 10:36 am

Page wrote:
Wawakanatote wrote:I'm a Marxist-Leninist-Maoist-Dengist with Xi Jinping Thought


Okay, I'm curious. If you wouldn't mind answering a few questions:

Are you Chinese?

What about Xi Jinping thought appeals to you?

Are the politicians featured in your flag those you support?


1) No, I'm not chinese. I am indeed American, but ever since 2016 I've spiraled further and further down the socialist rabbit hole after continued reading from Marxist works (mainly from Lenin, Stalin, Mao, & Deng). Also, I'm not a fan of the collective West's false portrayal of either socialism or nations not tied to them.

2) I like his anti-corruption campaign along with his support for the continuation of socialism in China.

3) Lol, no. Those people in the flag are meant to represent this fictional countries past three eras through its fictional leaders.

In order (left to right):
David Miscavige - Chairman of Scientology
Nikki Haley - Former US Ambassador to the UN (ironic purposes)
Peng Liyuan - First Lady of China
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Pro: Marxism-Leninism
Anti: Capitalism, Fascism
We do not exist under communism, but under the
primary stage of socialist development (nep/state capitalism)
Please adjust accordingly
Full Nation Name: Supranational Union of Socialist Republics
Government: Federal Intergovernmental P&E Union
Political Leaders: C.Song Liyuan, V.C.Lev Bronshtein
National Anthem: "Hymn of the Union"
"Seek Truth From Facts!"- Deng Xiaoping, Chairman of the Central Advisory Commission
"Peace, Equality, Unity" | "Мир, равенство, единство" | "和平,平等,团结"

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Postby Page » Fri Jan 25, 2019 11:29 am

Wawakanatote wrote:No, I'm not chinese. I am indeed American, but ever since 2016 I've spiraled further and further down the socialist rabbit hole after continued reading from Marxist works (mainly from Lenin, Stalin, Mao, & Deng). Also, I'm not a fan of the collective West's false portrayal of either socialism or nations not tied to them.


That's very interesting. I went down the rabbit hole of socialism too but ended up an anarchist. Most Americans who get into socialism end up either as democratic socialists, Marxist-Leninist, or anarcho-something. Maoism is not so common, and I figure a good deal of Maoists would now condemn China as a degenerated workers' state or having succumbed to the influence of capitalism. So you're quite a rare breed of socialist.

Do you not feel that China has significantly slid back toward capitalism?
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Postby Wawakanatote » Fri Jan 25, 2019 10:02 pm

Page wrote:
Wawakanatote wrote:No, I'm not chinese. I am indeed American, but ever since 2016 I've spiraled further and further down the socialist rabbit hole after continued reading from Marxist works (mainly from Lenin, Stalin, Mao, & Deng). Also, I'm not a fan of the collective West's false portrayal of either socialism or nations not tied to them.


That's very interesting. I went down the rabbit hole of socialism too but ended up an anarchist. Most Americans who get into socialism end up either as democratic socialists, Marxist-Leninist, or anarcho-something. Maoism is not so common, and I figure a good deal of Maoists would now condemn China as a degenerated workers' state or having succumbed to the influence of capitalism. So you're quite a rare breed of socialist.

Do you not feel that China has significantly slid back toward capitalism?


I believe that they made necessary reforms in their approach towards socialism. Also, China has always had some form of capitalist presence (though small) even under Mao as he understood their necessity in running a functioning economy.
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We do not exist under communism, but under the
primary stage of socialist development (nep/state capitalism)
Please adjust accordingly
Full Nation Name: Supranational Union of Socialist Republics
Government: Federal Intergovernmental P&E Union
Political Leaders: C.Song Liyuan, V.C.Lev Bronshtein
National Anthem: "Hymn of the Union"
"Seek Truth From Facts!"- Deng Xiaoping, Chairman of the Central Advisory Commission
"Peace, Equality, Unity" | "Мир, равенство, единство" | "和平,平等,团结"

For more information go to: Our National Factbook

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Postby Big Jim P » Fri Jan 25, 2019 10:39 pm

My political ideology: Don't bother me or any other innocent and I won't bother you.
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Postby Thermodolia » Fri Jan 25, 2019 10:48 pm

Wawakanatote wrote:I'm a Marxist-Leninist-Maoist-Dengist with Xi Jinping Thought

What a fucking nightmare.
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Postby Western Vale Confederacy » Fri Jan 25, 2019 10:49 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Wawakanatote wrote:I'm a Marxist-Leninist-Maoist-Dengist with Xi Jinping Thought

What a fucking nightmare.


*stares at socialism*

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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Fri Jan 25, 2019 10:50 pm

Big Jim P wrote:My political ideology: Don't bother me or any other innocent and I won't bother you.

Nice. Sounds like the NAP.
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Postby Big Jim P » Fri Jan 25, 2019 10:52 pm

LiberNovusAmericae wrote:
Big Jim P wrote:My political ideology: Don't bother me or any other innocent and I won't bother you.

Nice. Sounds like the NAP.


NAP?
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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Fri Jan 25, 2019 10:54 pm

Big Jim P wrote:
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:Nice. Sounds like the NAP.


NAP?

Non-Aggression Principle. It is a tenet of libertarianism.

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Postby Big Jim P » Fri Jan 25, 2019 10:56 pm

LiberNovusAmericae wrote:
Big Jim P wrote:
NAP?

Non-Aggression Principle. It is a tenet of libertarianism.


Ah. I knew that. I just never saw it referred to like that.
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Postby Thermodolia » Fri Jan 25, 2019 11:02 pm

I guess I might as well join the party. Basically I’m my own special socialist snowflake and follow a weird mix of Syndicalism, Market Socialism, Authoritarianism, Nationalism, and a smidge of capitalism all boiled together.

I call it Thermism, I don’t actually call it that I call it <my last name>ism like all good socialist theorists. But y’all won’t ever know my true identity so hahhahaha
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Postby Western Vale Confederacy » Fri Jan 25, 2019 11:05 pm

Thermodolia wrote:I guess I might as well join the party. Basically I’m my own special socialist snowflake and follow a weird mix of Syndicalism, Market Socialism, Authoritarianism, Nationalism, and a smidge of capitalism all boiled together.

I call it Thermism, I don’t actually call it that I call it <my last name>ism like all good socialist theorists. But y’all won’t ever know my true identity so hahhahaha


Clearly it's Paulism.

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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Fri Jan 25, 2019 11:05 pm

Thermodolia wrote:I guess I might as well join the party. Basically I’m my own special socialist snowflake and follow a weird mix of Syndicalism, Market Socialism, Authoritarianism, Nationalism, and a smidge of capitalism all boiled together.

I call it Thermism, I don’t actually call it that I call it <my last name>ism like all good socialist theorists. But y’all won’t ever know my true identity so hahhahaha

It will fail just like all of the other attempts at socialism.

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Postby Little Jim P » Fri Jan 25, 2019 11:07 pm

LiberNovusAmericae wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:I guess I might as well join the party. Basically I’m my own special socialist snowflake and follow a weird mix of Syndicalism, Market Socialism, Authoritarianism, Nationalism, and a smidge of capitalism all boiled together.

I call it Thermism, I don’t actually call it that I call it <my last name>ism like all good socialist theorists. But y’all won’t ever know my true identity so hahhahaha

It will fail just like all of the other attempts at socialism.


True. Unfortunately many have a blind spot when it comes to history.
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Postby Berhakonia » Fri Jan 25, 2019 11:11 pm

Just and Orthodox guy looking for something greater in monarchism
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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Fri Jan 25, 2019 11:14 pm

Little Jim P wrote:
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:It will fail just like all of the other attempts at socialism.


True. Unfortunately many have a blind spot when it comes to history.

I know, and it's very irritating when people claim that the ideology is misunderstood or worse promote the socialist no-true-scotsman of "not real socialism".

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