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What is your political ideology?

Conservative
30
17%
Republican
5
3%
Authortarian
11
6%
Liberal
24
13%
Libertarian
18
10%
National Socialist
13
7%
Fascist
10
6%
Neo-Liberal
4
2%
Anarchist
16
9%
Other/apolitical
48
27%
 
Total votes : 179

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El-Amin Caliphate
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Wed Jan 23, 2019 2:54 pm

Jolthig wrote:radical communism

That's redundant. Communism already is radical.
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Postby Jolthig » Wed Jan 23, 2019 2:54 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Jolthig wrote:radical communism

That's redundant. Communism already is radical.

The ones that use violent means because not all communists are violent.
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“Und Mirza”

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Blazelander
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Postby Blazelander » Wed Jan 23, 2019 2:55 pm

National Socialist

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El-Amin Caliphate
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Wed Jan 23, 2019 2:57 pm

Jolthig wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:That's redundant. Communism already is radical.

The ones that use violent means because not all communists are violent.

Communism preaches violence. How else would you get statelessness, classlessness, and moneylessness? Also, preaching violence =/= radicalism.
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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Wed Jan 23, 2019 2:58 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Jolthig wrote:The ones that use violent means because not all communists are violent.

Communism preaches violence. How else would you get statelessness, classlessness, and moneylessness? Also, preaching violence =/= radicalism.

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Postby Jolthig » Wed Jan 23, 2019 2:58 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Jolthig wrote:The ones that use violent means because not all communists are violent.

Communism preaches violence. How else would you get statelessness, classlessness, and moneylessness? Also, preaching violence =/= radicalism.

That depends on which communist you're looking at. I've known a peaceful communist that used to be on here on NSG years ago, but he never believed in violence. I'm not saying communism doesnt preach violence outright, but some communists and marxists dont (like Beinstein)
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Kowani wrote:
Jolthig wrote:Lol why

“Und Mirza”

:lol2:

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LiberNovusAmericae wrote:Isn't that what NSG is for though to a degree?

YOU’RE WRONG.

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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Wed Jan 23, 2019 2:59 pm

Jolthig wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Communism preaches violence. How else would you get statelessness, classlessness, and moneylessness? Also, preaching violence =/= radicalism.

That depends on which communist you're looking at. I've known a peaceful communist that used to be on here on NSG years ago, but he never believed in violence. I'm not saying communism doesnt preach violence outright, but some communists and marxists dont (like Beinstein)

Well I'm not going by what communists say/do, I'm going by the Communist Manifesto.
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Centrist

Postby New nexus2 » Wed Jan 23, 2019 3:02 pm

How ever the world should be under one government

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The Supreme Magnificent High Swaglord
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Postby The Supreme Magnificent High Swaglord » Wed Jan 23, 2019 3:06 pm

New nexus2 wrote:How ever the world should be under one government


I politely disagree with the centrism thing (unless you consider “center authoritarian” to be sufficiently centrist), but I most definitely agree that there should be a world state. One world, one state, one vision, and such y’know?
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Polish Prussian Commonwealth
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Postby Polish Prussian Commonwealth » Wed Jan 23, 2019 3:07 pm

Anarcho-free-market-national-Bolshevik-monarchism.
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LiberNovusAmericae
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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Wed Jan 23, 2019 3:09 pm

United soviet states of britan wrote:Communisam

Did you learn anything from the disaster that was the soviet union?
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Wed Jan 23, 2019 3:10 pm

LiberNovusAmericae wrote:
United soviet states of britan wrote:Communisam

Did you learn anything from the disaster that was the soviet union?

That wasn't communist, that was socialist authoritarian. And I'm not even sure it was socialist.
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LiberNovusAmericae
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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Wed Jan 23, 2019 3:12 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:Did you learn anything from the disaster that was the soviet union?

That wasn't communist, that was socialist authoritarian. And I'm not even sure it was socialist.

Either way, it is how attempts at communism always seem to play out.
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Postby Blakullar » Wed Jan 23, 2019 3:12 pm

If I could append a name to my political beliefs, it would probably be 'utilitarian Leninist'. That's to say, I rest on the authoritarian left, yet believe that any revolutionary vanguard that brings a government to power should and indeed must operate a) within the (Hobbesian) laws of nature if the law of the land is unjust; and b) for the greater good of the people it is responsible for.

There's two key ways my beliefs tend to differ from my fellow leftists. First is that I think the government should nationalise only the essential industries of a nation (i.e. the ones a nation needs for basic function: infrastructure, finance, education and so forth) and let the private sector have the industries that operate based on human desires (retail, entertainment, etcetera). Such would be the optimum balance of government control and market freedom, so I would think. The second big difference is my belief that nuclear weapons are a necessary evil in such a deeply unstable world as this one, and so oppose unilateral disarmament out of practicality.
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Postby The Blaatschapen » Wed Jan 23, 2019 3:14 pm

European liberal.
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Postby Western Vale Confederacy » Wed Jan 23, 2019 3:14 pm

Polish Prussian Commonwealth wrote:Anarcho-free-market-national-Bolshevik-monarchism.


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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Wed Jan 23, 2019 3:15 pm

LiberNovusAmericae wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:That wasn't communist, that was socialist authoritarian. And I'm not even sure it was socialist.

Either way, it is how attempts at communism always seem to play out.

You used 1 example...
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Postby New nexus2 » Wed Jan 23, 2019 3:18 pm

The Supreme Magnificent High Swaglord wrote:
New nexus2 wrote:How ever the world should be under one government


I politely disagree with the centrism thing (unless you consider “center authoritarian” to be sufficiently centrist), but I most definitely agree that there should be a world state. One world, one state, one vision, and such y’know?

I disagree that authoritative meshurse must be taken a fair balanced hand is the best because all ideology has its advantages but also weakness a central government avoids this. For the one world government fingers crossed that it is a democracy.

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Postby Neihchfer » Wed Jan 23, 2019 3:19 pm

Created my own called "Dei cogitandi arce" DCA, for short. Basically, it's a Monarchist-fascist kind of thing. We support societies to resemble a castle. Also, the king is a Philosopher and it's a Theocracy. Created a book about it. Check it out if you're stuck in North Yorkshire. I'm still writing the sequel. Although along the way, there has been fallacies that I need to rethink about.
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Polish Prussian Commonwealth
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Postby Polish Prussian Commonwealth » Wed Jan 23, 2019 3:19 pm

Western Vale Confederacy wrote:
Polish Prussian Commonwealth wrote:Anarcho-free-market-national-Bolshevik-monarchism.


Are your hats tailor-made for that galaxy brain of yours?

To be precise, Pacifistic Anarcho-Nationalist Free-market Christian Bolshevist constitutional monarchism with elements of Social democracy.
Last edited by Polish Prussian Commonwealth on Wed Jan 23, 2019 3:21 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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A 13 civilization, according to this index.

A traumatized MT-PMT constitutional monarchy consisting of a personal union of Prussia and Poland. A land of rampant gun ownership, Cold-war equipment, rabid hatred of Germans, militias with enough artillery to turn an armored division into a badly-shaken battalion of light infantry, and terrified American troops counting down the days until they rotate back home.

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Blakullar
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Postby Blakullar » Wed Jan 23, 2019 3:21 pm

Polish Prussian Commonwealth wrote:
Western Vale Confederacy wrote:
Are your hats tailor-made for that galaxy brain of yours?

To be precise, Pacifistic Anarcho-Nationalist Free-market Bolshevist constitutional monarchism with elements of Social democracy.

Now you have me intrigued.
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Postby Test2018 » Wed Jan 23, 2019 3:22 pm

Ginicun wrote:Since the previous thread got locked, what are your political views or ideology?
For me, i'm a right-leaning centrist with some far-left views, and a lil bit of liberalism and traditionalist tendecies.
I believe that freedom is a cornerstone of life, and freedom of speech is a cornerstone of american society.

You're in the NationStates game, dude. No matter, what do you think about your political ideology, anybody can open yours country page and see, how is it really.
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Postby Western Vale Confederacy » Wed Jan 23, 2019 3:25 pm

Polish Prussian Commonwealth wrote:
Western Vale Confederacy wrote:
Are your hats tailor-made for that galaxy brain of yours?

To be precise, Pacifistic Anarcho-Nationalist Free-market Christian Bolshevist constitutional monarchism with elements of Social democracy.


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Blakullar
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Postby Blakullar » Wed Jan 23, 2019 3:26 pm

Test2018 wrote:
Ginicun wrote:Since the previous thread got locked, what are your political views or ideology?
For me, i'm a right-leaning centrist with some far-left views, and a lil bit of liberalism and traditionalist tendecies.
I believe that freedom is a cornerstone of life, and freedom of speech is a cornerstone of american society.

You're in the NationStates game, dude. No matter, what do you think about your political ideology, anybody can open yours country page and see, how is it really.

I believe you're looking for these forums.
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Postby Highever » Wed Jan 23, 2019 3:26 pm

Test2018 wrote:
Ginicun wrote:Since the previous thread got locked, what are your political views or ideology?
For me, i'm a right-leaning centrist with some far-left views, and a lil bit of liberalism and traditionalist tendecies.
I believe that freedom is a cornerstone of life, and freedom of speech is a cornerstone of american society.

You're in the NationStates game, dude. No matter, what do you think about your political ideology, anybody can open yours country page and see, how is it really.

I mean players dont always have their actual political views represent their nations. Hell, I doubt most people do that really.
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