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Postby Seangoli » Mon Jan 21, 2019 2:06 pm

Camelone wrote:
Puldania wrote:I'd argue that even high schoolers should be expected to a higher degree of conduct tbh

So what exactly are you saying that they did wrong? Taunting the Black Hebrews who were throwing slurs at them with a sports chant and standing there like one would when a street performer locks eyes with you. Heck even in the video when one of Mr. Phillip’s comrades starts a racially charged argument with another one of the students the staring kid tries to gesture for him to cut it out, however meekly. I have already shared these videos with time stamps but if you wish for me to fish for them again I can certainly do so.


Some of the nitwits were very clearly making mocking "indian" chants. That is pretty damn disrespectful regardless of context.

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Postby Crockerland » Mon Jan 21, 2019 2:08 pm

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I agree kids should never be doxxed or attacked for political purposes but I'm not sure what idiot let plenty of students from a school go to a political rally wearing MAGA hats. I get it's a catholic school so isn't really a school but still. They were guaranteeing something would go wrong.

Wait, people are actually making death threats?
I thought that was just a red herring being touted by the opposition

>Children and their families receive death threats and mass harassment for being present near a native american protester
>First reaction upon hearing this is paranoia against "the opposition"

Sounds just about right.
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Postby Camelone » Mon Jan 21, 2019 2:11 pm

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Camelone wrote:So what exactly are you saying that they did wrong? Taunting the Black Hebrews who were throwing slurs at them with a sports chant and standing there like one would when a street performer locks eyes with you. Heck even in the video when one of Mr. Phillip’s comrades starts a racially charged argument with another one of the students the staring kid tries to gesture for him to cut it out, however meekly. I have already shared these videos with time stamps but if you wish for me to fish for them again I can certainly do so.


Some of the nitwits were very clearly making mocking "indian" chants. That is pretty damn disrespectful regardless of context.

Well seeing that they were already doing the sports chant before Mr. Phillip’s approaches and those tomahawk arms are rather common when accompanied with a sports chant.
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Postby Seangoli » Mon Jan 21, 2019 2:18 pm

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Some of the nitwits were very clearly making mocking "indian" chants. That is pretty damn disrespectful regardless of context.

Well seeing that they were already doing the sports chant before Mr. Phillip’s approaches and those tomahawk arms are rather common when accompanied with a sports chant.


Moreso the the random screaming-mock-chant that is common when micking natives, that a lot of them were doing.

I also find it awfully convenient for them to incorporate a Tomahawk chop into their dumbassery when having an issue with a native.

Some of the kids were being racist little shits. The black Israelites are racist by nature. Hell, I wouldn't doubt the natives are racist, or some of them.

From where I sit amd from what I saw, they were all being shitty. I can almost guarantee those MAGA kids were looking for a fight given their general attitude. Phillips is always looking for a fight. The black Israelites are shitty idiots always looking for a fight.


All of this was shitty, nobody is a good person here, they all suck.

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Postby Puldania » Mon Jan 21, 2019 2:22 pm

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Puldania wrote:Wait, people are actually making death threats?
I thought that was just a red herring being touted by the opposition

>Children and their families receive death threats and mass harassment for being present near a native american protester
>First reaction upon hearing this is paranoia against "the opposition"

Sounds just about right.

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Define "white".

What are the demographics you surround yourself in? How old are you? What social-class/strata are you surrounded by?

Be "white". Be poor/working class. Be in "diverse" surroundings, neighborhoods and job environments. You cannot escape it-- it will find you, thanks to the upper classes (upper strata "whites" who despise the lower strata "whites" -- which is what it is ALL about -- always has been-- non-whites are simply used by the upper strata as proxy-warriors 99% of the time and they will squash dissent from the same people if they aren't the ones leading it). Doesn't mean you can't "get by and get along" but you also can't mentally reside in the lofty minded "race doesn't exist" or "oh my god I cannot form judgments based on my experiences and interactions or that's raciss" or "hmmph.. I'm white and never have any problems with non-whites". Only way you get the privilege of holding that view is if you are never around real people in the real world , ie poor.. working class in actual real world diverse environments -- that are constantly being polarized and instigated by upper class to rich sons of bitches who live in non-diverse environments surrounded by gates and walls and aren't forced to compete with every godamned body else for the scraps thrown to the dogs called work .. because of again .. these same upper class.. self imposed self segregated aristocrats. My god.. how I despise them.



Am effecticely white, grew up next to a reservation, raised Catholic, grew up working class with a single father who was a police officer (who hilariously wasn't considered white growing up, as we are Italian). Am 32, and md have had to work every damn day of my life.

I have experienced exactly none of the things that get brought up about "white oppression" in my entire life. The closest I have experienced is some of the Natives saying some unpleasant things about white people around me.

Note, its not that I haven't witnessed what some nits *claim* to be oppression, but more often than not it is exaggerated to the point of stupidity and absurdity, or is not any sort of oppression at all.

It is a load of hogwash and horseshit to claim that what is quite likely upper middle class kids are getting oppressed.


Be Thankful you were raised Catholic. You're the only "whites" (and Orthodox!) in America who still retain your ethnic historical connection and knowledge. America created "white guys" .. Protestantism America created "white people". I'm against that term and that identifier (so too "Caucasian") it works in the behest of the elites. I know what "white" means in America. I understand what others mean.. but it is utterly meaningless and a hindrance.

The middle class "whites" are only beginning to experience some uncomfortable-ness .. which the poor underclass (especially in the south) have been dealing with direct interactions forever. So I have much less empathy with them. They're only yapping because it is now only beginning to touch them ... only in recent decades have their implicit "white" neighborhoods began to be "diversified" and until that point they (their parents, grandparents) were almost certainly of the puritan kind to crow about those "other whites" those "bad whites" who are "racists" in the south. It's a not in my back yard mentality. I also see a lot of all of this being concocted .. some ideological motivation is trying to unify young "whites" by polarization.. and it's working. The internet and media dance is working it. But these young middle class have little to no real world experiences and for now it's a game and almost a frat clique type hobby.

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Postby Greed and Death » Mon Jan 21, 2019 2:28 pm

The United Nations Of Europa wrote:I still don't understand what the Hebrews have to do in this argument. The native American man went in between the two groups to prevent anything from happening, not to start something else. So what gives the MAGA kids the right to then mock him and then go right in his face.

Something about the black Hebrews saying to native Americans they lost this land because god willed it for not worshiping YHWH. Which if you think about it is the most white supremacist thing said at the event.
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Postby Samudera Darussalam » Mon Jan 21, 2019 2:34 pm

Just read several posts there and I went like...."what. Really?"
Some are really hard to believe, especially the Black Jews part. What they said are really not acceptable.

And yeah, the said death threats. I don't know if that really happens (have yet to read the news updates), but if it's, then this whole issue got ugly pretty fast.

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Postby Salus Maior » Mon Jan 21, 2019 2:40 pm

Crockerland wrote:>Children and their families receive death threats and mass harassment for being present near a native american protester
>First reaction upon hearing this is paranoia against "the opposition"

Sounds just about right.


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Seems like the blame can largely be layed at the door of 'black Hebrew Israelites,' whatever they are.
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Postby Seangoli » Mon Jan 21, 2019 2:40 pm

Samudera Darussalam wrote:Just read several posts there and I went like...."what. Really?"
Some are really hard to believe, especially the Black Jews part. What they said are really not acceptable.

And yeah, the said death threats. I don't know if that really happens (have yet to read the news updates), but if it's, then this whole issue got ugly pretty fast.



They were specifically Black israelites, not to be confused with typicall jews who are Black.

The Black Israelites believe that "white Jews" are not real hebrews, and instead are Europeans who coopted jewish identity from the real Israelites. Further, they also espouse the same Anti-Jewish propaganda hits about how the white jews control the world. They are seperatists and supremacists.


Ifnthat isn't enough to leave a bad taste your mouth, they often feelnthe Holocaust was perfectly fine and justified, as it was Europeans killing Europeans. Some even go sonfar as to sit outside Jewish temples and tell people "Thank God for Hitler" or"Hitler did nothing wrong". They aren't Holocaust eeniers, but rather support the holocaust.

They are a fun group.

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Postby Salus Maior » Mon Jan 21, 2019 2:41 pm

The United Nations Of Europa wrote:I still don't understand what the Hebrews have to do in this argument. The native American man went in between the two groups to prevent anything from happening, not to start something else. So what gives the MAGA kids the right to then mock him and then go right in his face.


The Native American guy went up to them, the kids didn't get in his face.
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Postby Salus Maior » Mon Jan 21, 2019 2:41 pm

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:Seems like the blame can largely be layed at the door of 'black Hebrew Israelites,' whatever they are.


Black Supremacists who think they're the real Hebrews of the Old Testament.
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Postby Seangoli » Mon Jan 21, 2019 2:42 pm

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:Seems like the blame can largely be layed at the door of 'black Hebrew Israelites,' whatever they are.


An radical religious geoup that believes they are the "real" Hebrews and "regular" jews are evil europeans.

They are fairly unfiltered in how they interact with people.

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Greater vakolicci haven wrote:Seems like the blame can largely be layed at the door of 'black Hebrew Israelites,' whatever they are.


Black Supremacists who think they're the real Hebrews of the Old Testament.


A cult then, to all intents and purposes?
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Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Mon Jan 21, 2019 2:44 pm

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Greater vakolicci haven wrote:Seems like the blame can largely be layed at the door of 'black Hebrew Israelites,' whatever they are.


An radical religious geoup that believes they are the "real" Hebrews and "regular" jews are evil europeans.

They are fairly unfiltered in how they interact with people.

These particular ones sound like dicks if I'm honest with you, they called a group of high school kids insest babies and 'future school shooters.'
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Postby Thanatttynia » Mon Jan 21, 2019 2:44 pm

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The United Nations Of Europa wrote:I still don't understand what the Hebrews have to do in this argument. The native American man went in between the two groups to prevent anything from happening, not to start something else. So what gives the MAGA kids the right to then mock him and then go right in his face.


The Native American guy went up to them, the kids didn't get in his face.

Lets not pretend the boys weren't being belligerent and mocking him. It's standard behaviour for teenage boys in large groups, esp in unfamiliar places, and not something they deserve to be turned into public hate figures for, but it's what they were doing.
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Greater vakolicci haven wrote:
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Black Supremacists who think they're the real Hebrews of the Old Testament.


A cult then, to all intents and purposes?


Pretty much.

They're incredibly racist and unhinged, really.
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Postby Seangoli » Mon Jan 21, 2019 2:47 pm

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:
Seangoli wrote:
An radical religious geoup that believes they are the "real" Hebrews and "regular" jews are evil europeans.

They are fairly unfiltered in how they interact with people.

These particular ones sound like dicks if I'm honest with you, they called a group of high school kids insest babies and 'future school shooters.'



That's par for the course for Black Israelites.

These are the same group who go to Jewish centers and tell people Hitler did nothing wrong (as it led to fewer white people in the world, and it was whites killing whites).

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Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Mon Jan 21, 2019 2:48 pm

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Greater vakolicci haven wrote:These particular ones sound like dicks if I'm honest with you, they called a group of high school kids insest babies and 'future school shooters.'



That's par for the course for Black Israelites.

These are the same group who go to Jewish centers and tell people Hitler did nothing wrong (as it led to fewer white people in the world, and it was whites killing whites).

Dick status confirmed then.
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Postby Samudera Darussalam » Mon Jan 21, 2019 2:54 pm

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They were specifically Black israelites, not to be confused with typicall jews who are Black.

The Black Israelites believe that "white Jews" are not real hebrews, and instead are Europeans who coopted jewish identity from the real Israelites. Further, they also espouse the same Anti-Jewish propaganda hits about how the white jews control the world. They are seperatists and supremacists.


Ifnthat isn't enough to leave a bad taste your mouth, they often feelnthe Holocaust was perfectly fine and justified, as it was Europeans killing Europeans. Some even go sonfar as to sit outside Jewish temples and tell people "Thank God for Hitler" or"Hitler did nothing wrong". They aren't Holocaust eeniers, but rather support the holocaust.

They are a fun group.


Ah yeah, Black Israelites. Thanks for the correction!

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Postby Seangoli » Mon Jan 21, 2019 2:56 pm

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:
Seangoli wrote:

That's par for the course for Black Israelites.

These are the same group who go to Jewish centers and tell people Hitler did nothing wrong (as it led to fewer white people in the world, and it was whites killing whites).

Dick status confirmed then.


Yup.

Note, the Kid gave an interview where he called the Israelites and Phillips "protestors", one of the mothers of another kid called the Israelites "black muslims", and a few other oddities.

No kiddo, these were not protestors protesting your march. Phillips was there for something completely different, and the Black Israelites are just massive dicks protesting everything. It was pure circumstance that these people all showed up o the same day, but I have already seen the confrontation itself framed as violent leftist protestors vs. Peaceful rightists.

That's not what happened, and the Black Israelites would have said the same damn thing to any white people for any reason. They are just assholes, and loopy ones to boot.

Everybody here was looking for a fight, to be blunt.
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my god, there's a compilation of black Hebrew Israelites yelling at random people. They love to follow each others comments like 'God's gonna kill all white people, babies included' with 'That's right!' Then they shout at 'so-called' black people, Asians, Hispanics...I've got the impression that black Hebrew Israelites don't actually believe anything aside from 'there's an excuse to be dicks to everyone now yay!'
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Postby Seangoli » Mon Jan 21, 2019 3:16 pm

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:my god, there's a compilation of black Hebrew Israelites yelling at random people. They love to follow each others comments like 'God's gonna kill all white people, babies included' with 'That's right!' Then they shout at 'so-called' black people, Asians, Hispanics...I've got the impression that black Hebrew Israelites don't actually believe anything aside from 'there's an excuse to be dicks to everyone now yay!'


Ah, you went down the rabbit hole.

And yep, that's pretty much the gist of their movement. It's honestly one of those groups that you should just walk away from amd not engage. They are just complete raging assholes with zero substance to their acticities.
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