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by Ostroeuropa » Sun Jan 20, 2019 10:02 pm

by FelrikTheDeleted » Sun Jan 20, 2019 10:02 pm
Liriena wrote:Ostroeuropa wrote:
Hasn't sunk in yet it would seem.
It's not gonna "sink in" if it comes in the form of an angry accusatory rant that seems to mostly focus on chastising people for not sharing your exact same biases and having the exact same experiences to fall back on. And there's the added problem that you tend to fall back on a very narrow sample of sorts (UK progressivism) or focus on individual examples of "minor media personality says mean thing".FelrikTheDeleted wrote:
How? Fucking how? You’ve yet to explain how standing, and fucking smiling, is fucking smug. Tell how the native Americans didn’t do anything wrong when their fucking elder was banging a drum in a kids fucking face? If shit like smiling or chanting is fucking smug in your books, then what the fuck is banging a drum in a kids face to you?
As IB mentioned...Internationalist Bastard wrote:What really got me was it seemed, to me at least, some of them were trying to do random gestures while chanting. One kid did what kinda looked like he was miming a headdress, which is a stereotype of natives in America
Also, obnoxious drum banging is best praxis.

by Ostroeuropa » Sun Jan 20, 2019 10:03 pm
FelrikTheDeleted wrote:Liriena wrote:It's not gonna "sink in" if it comes in the form of an angry accusatory rant that seems to mostly focus on chastising people for not sharing your exact same biases and having the exact same experiences to fall back on. And there's the added problem that you tend to fall back on a very narrow sample of sorts (UK progressivism) or focus on individual examples of "minor media personality says mean thing".
As IB mentioned...
Also, obnoxious drum banging is best praxis.
All I really got from this was:
- Smiling and chanting is smug
- Banging a drum in someone’s face is alright though

by Liriena » Sun Jan 20, 2019 10:03 pm
Ostroeuropa wrote:A day after the news edits the gillete advert to remove the only black antagonists by the way. Worth remembering.
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by Ostroeuropa » Sun Jan 20, 2019 10:04 pm

by Minzerland II » Sun Jan 20, 2019 10:05 pm
Internationalist Bastard wrote:Ostroeuropa wrote:
They were chanting a school anthem and bouncing up and down.
How were they being dicks exactly? Be precise.
Do not rely on a photo image of a guy looking smug for one frozen moment in time.
Native sees possible racial confrontation
Native approaches and begins to play music of peace
Group then surrounds and jokingly repeats the chants and miming dumb motions
Dumb asshole kids being dumb asshole kids
St Anselm of Canterbury wrote:[…]who ever heard of anything having two mothers or two fathers? (Monologion, pg. 63)

by Internationalist Bastard » Sun Jan 20, 2019 10:06 pm
Ostroeuropa wrote:Internationalist Bastard wrote:Native sees possible racial confrontation
Native approaches and begins to play music of peace
Group then surrounds and jokingly repeats the chants and miming dumb motions
Dumb asshole kids being dumb asshole kids
The native group joined in the racial harassment. They were not there to de-escalate the situation. For one thing they approached the victims so the notion is nonsensical, it is merely a lie he made up to make himself the victim.
The native group has members telling the boys to go back to europe and saying white people dont belong here.
THEN the kids started mocking them.

by Ostroeuropa » Sun Jan 20, 2019 10:07 pm
Internationalist Bastard wrote:Ostroeuropa wrote:
The native group joined in the racial harassment. They were not there to de-escalate the situation. For one thing they approached the victims so the notion is nonsensical, it is merely a lie he made up to make himself the victim.
The native group has members telling the boys to go back to europe and saying white people dont belong here.
THEN the kids started mocking them.
See I’ve seen the video
I know the native man you are talking about
I saw one man making racist comments about white people going back to Europe
I also saw the interview where the man said that he was heading one way and there was a bunch of kids in his way
He decided to keep walking where he was going.

by Internationalist Bastard » Sun Jan 20, 2019 10:08 pm
Ostroeuropa wrote:Internationalist Bastard wrote:See I’ve seen the video
I know the native man you are talking about
I saw one man making racist comments about white people going back to Europe
I also saw the interview where the man said that he was heading one way and there was a bunch of kids in his way
He decided to keep walking where he was going.
So which is it. Was he going over there to de-escalate a situation or was he already heading that way.

by Ostroeuropa » Sun Jan 20, 2019 10:10 pm
Internationalist Bastard wrote:Ostroeuropa wrote:
So which is it. Was he going over there to de-escalate a situation or was he already heading that way.
No clue
I wasn’t there. I’m just saying what I’ve seen
What I saw says those kids were dicks.
It’s worth noting I also saw a black kid in that group who was also being a dick

by Internationalist Bastard » Sun Jan 20, 2019 10:11 pm

by Liriena » Sun Jan 20, 2019 10:12 pm
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by Internationalist Bastard » Sun Jan 20, 2019 10:12 pm
Ostroeuropa wrote:Internationalist Bastard wrote:No clue
I wasn’t there. I’m just saying what I’ve seen
What I saw says those kids were dicks.
It’s worth noting I also saw a black kid in that group who was also being a dick
You've seen the results of a progressive media hate narrative where white children reacting to racial harassment from multiple groups and intimidation by copying them are held more accountable than adult minorities who instigated the situation, purely because they are white. Those children have now been vilified internationally while the instigators are being celebrated, and the children are facing death threats.
If you doubt the nefarious intent of the media in crafting an anti-white narrative, explain their choice of still photo which doesn't accurately represent the boys expression for the overwhelming majority of the encounter.

by Liriena » Sun Jan 20, 2019 10:13 pm
Internationalist Bastard wrote:I think there’s one important thing to take from this
I don’t hate white people
I hate teenagers
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by Ostroeuropa » Sun Jan 20, 2019 10:13 pm
Internationalist Bastard wrote:Ostroeuropa wrote:
You've seen the results of a progressive media hate narrative where white children reacting to racial harassment from multiple groups and intimidation by copying them are held more accountable than adult minorities who instigated the situation, purely because they are white. Those children have now been vilified internationally while the instigators are being celebrated, and the children are facing death threats.
If you doubt the nefarious intent of the media in crafting an anti-white narrative, explain their choice of still photo which doesn't accurately represent the boys expression for the overwhelming majority of the encounter.
Oh I’m calling bullshit on that his face was like that almost every time I saw him
Liriena wrote:Ostroeuropa wrote:
It's a consequence of the toxic ideology they have internalized where they judge actions based on the race and sex of the people doing them.
Anyone who stands their ground and isn't afraid to get in the face of someone wearing a MAGA hat is a comrade, regardless of race or sex... buuuuuuuuuuuuut there is an element of contextual schadenfreude when it's not a white antifa supersoldier doing it.
And yes, of course, "someone wearing a MAGA hat" is obviously a dog-whistle for "white".

by Cedoria » Sun Jan 20, 2019 10:16 pm
Ostroeuropa wrote:A day after the news edits the gillete advert to remove the only black antagonists by the way. Worth remembering.

by Minzerland II » Sun Jan 20, 2019 10:17 pm
St Anselm of Canterbury wrote:[…]who ever heard of anything having two mothers or two fathers? (Monologion, pg. 63)

by Ostroeuropa » Sun Jan 20, 2019 10:18 pm

by Internationalist Bastard » Sun Jan 20, 2019 10:18 pm
Ostroeuropa wrote:Internationalist Bastard wrote:Oh I’m calling bullshit on that his face was like that almost every time I saw him
Have you seen the full video?Liriena wrote:Anyone who stands their ground and isn't afraid to get in the face of someone wearing a MAGA hat is a comrade, regardless of race or sex... buuuuuuuuuuuuut there is an element of contextual schadenfreude when it's not a white antifa supersoldier doing it.
And yes, of course, "someone wearing a MAGA hat" is obviously a dog-whistle for "white".
Racists are your comrade, you said it yourself i guess.
"White people should go back to europe."

by Liriena » Sun Jan 20, 2019 10:19 pm
Ostroeuropa wrote:Racists are your comrade, you said it yourself i guess.
"White people should go back to europe."
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by Internationalist Bastard » Sun Jan 20, 2019 10:21 pm
Minzerland II wrote:Look at them all grasping at straws.

by Ostroeuropa » Sun Jan 20, 2019 10:24 pm
“Taitano [one of the Native American protestors] said the whole incident started when the teens and four young African-Americans, who'd been preaching about the Bible nearby, started yelling and calling each other names. It got pretty intense, Taitano said, so Nathan Phillips, an elder with the Omaha tribe, started playing his drum and chanting what she was told was a healing prayer, to help defuse the situation (CNN).”

by Liriena » Sun Jan 20, 2019 10:26 pm
Ostroeuropa wrote:
The media ignored the black people here too because it didn't fit their anti-white narrative.
Here are some of the things they shouted at the native americans:
“You should not worship buffalos or eagles, this is why the Lord took away your land!”
“Damn women also disrupting shit with their emotions. You’re out of order. Where’s your husband at?”
“Bunch of uncle Tomahawks!”
If we're oh so concerned about racism against natives, why was this left out?
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by Liriena » Sun Jan 20, 2019 10:30 pm
Igueranel wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZTDIoywwGk
I'd watch this before getting in any arguments.
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