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Postby Camelone » Tue Jan 22, 2019 2:12 pm

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Camelone wrote:Isn’t that the law though?


The FCC eliminated the Fairness Doctrine in 1987. The Equal-Time Rule requires that the candidates in question specifically request it.

Ah gotcha, thanks for the clarification.
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Postby Liriena » Tue Jan 22, 2019 2:25 pm

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Liriena wrote:You mean this BuzzFeed/Mueller probe thing? Mueller's office claims that BuzzFeed's report is inaccurate, but mentions no specifics and doesn't explain either way whether they claim the inaccuracies are partial or if the entire report is unreliable. And since BuzzFeed is doubling down...

Buzzfeed is garbage.

Buzzfeed is garbage. Buzzfeed News isn't. The latter actually has good journalists who do fantastic work.
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Postby Northern Davincia » Tue Jan 22, 2019 2:37 pm

Liriena wrote:
Scomagia wrote:Buzzfeed is garbage.

Buzzfeed is garbage. Buzzfeed News isn't. The latter actually has good journalists who do fantastic work.

Are we putting Mueller's credibility into doubt? If so, I won't stop you.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Tue Jan 22, 2019 2:44 pm

Liriena wrote:
Scomagia wrote:Buzzfeed is garbage.

Buzzfeed is garbage. Buzzfeed News isn't. The latter actually has good journalists who do fantastic work.

So good the special prosecutor had to deny their reporting.
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Postby Scomagia » Tue Jan 22, 2019 3:07 pm

Ethel mermania wrote:
Liriena wrote:Buzzfeed is garbage. Buzzfeed News isn't. The latter actually has good journalists who do fantastic work.

So good the special prosecutor had to deny their reporting.

Zing!
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Postby Scomagia » Tue Jan 22, 2019 3:13 pm

Liriena wrote:
Scomagia wrote:Buzzfeed is garbage.

Buzzfeed is garbage. Buzzfeed News isn't. The latter actually has good journalists who do fantastic work.

I don't get this reticence of yours to admit that BuzzFeed fucked up. They were so wrong that Robert "Tight-Lips" Mueller's office had to correct them. What do you believe, exactly? That Mueller is less credible than BuzzFeed? Come on now.
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Postby The South Falls » Tue Jan 22, 2019 3:15 pm

Buzzfeed news is a very questionable source. Seeing as how the special prosecutor, who rarely speaks in public. had to correct them
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Postby Novus America » Tue Jan 22, 2019 3:19 pm

Karu Nadu wrote:
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I was born here, I lived my entire life here. Dare I say I'm as native to the Americas as these protestors are.

It's about history. Were your ancestors partially wiped of the face of the Earth?


Many "white" Americans are of Polish descent you know...
There are also those of Jewish, Armenian, Greek, Irish etc. descent. I am not sure how the horrors your ancestors may or may not have suffered make you more or less American.
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Postby Northern Davincia » Tue Jan 22, 2019 3:23 pm

Novus America wrote:
Karu Nadu wrote:It's about history. Were your ancestors partially wiped of the face of the Earth?


Many "white" Americans are of Polish descent you know...
There are also those of Jewish, Armenian, Greek, Irish etc. descent. I am not sure how the horrors your ancestors may or may not have suffered make you more or less American.

Bad things can't happen to white people, silly.
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Postby Thermodolia » Tue Jan 22, 2019 3:23 pm

ShakaZuli wrote:
Karu Nadu wrote:So...
When white people disappear, brown people destroy the great things they created?
...that's not racially charged...

If say one day Hispanics become a 90% of the country, USA will basically turn into Mexico or Brazil 2,0. Simple as that. All the good things in USA were created by white people. I am sorry to say it but that are the facts.

You do know that the idea of “white” changes every few years or so? Go back about 200 years and the Irish and Spanish where not considered white, yet they are now.

Same will and is happening with Hispanics. Many Hispanics currently view themselves as white.
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Postby Scomagia » Tue Jan 22, 2019 3:28 pm

Novus America wrote:
Karu Nadu wrote:It's about history. Were your ancestors partially wiped of the face of the Earth?


Many "white" Americans are of Polish descent you know...
There are also those of Jewish, Armenian, Greek, Irish etc. descent. I am not sure how the horrors your ancestors may or may not have suffered make you more or less American.

Indeed. The suffering of your forebears doesn't grant you some magical status.
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Postby Northern Davincia » Tue Jan 22, 2019 3:29 pm

Scomagia wrote:
Novus America wrote:
Many "white" Americans are of Polish descent you know...
There are also those of Jewish, Armenian, Greek, Irish etc. descent. I am not sure how the horrors your ancestors may or may not have suffered make you more or less American.

Indeed. The suffering if your forebears doesn't grant you some magical status.

That being said, the current suffering of Native Americans is an untold tragedy in America.
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Postby Aureumterra » Tue Jan 22, 2019 3:30 pm

Absolutely hilarious seeing BBC and other leftist outlets squirm and attempt to walk back on this, once the truth was revealed
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Postby Scomagia » Tue Jan 22, 2019 3:31 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
Scomagia wrote:Indeed. The suffering if your forebears doesn't grant you some magical status.

That being said, the current suffering of Native Americans is an untold tragedy in America.

Without a doubt.
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Postby ShakaZuli » Tue Jan 22, 2019 3:34 pm

The Indian guy is not even a Vietnam veteran. One more lies from CNN and other anti-white media outlets.

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Postby Vassenor » Tue Jan 22, 2019 3:36 pm

Scomagia wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:So good the special prosecutor had to deny their reporting.

Zing!


Which you all just swallow uncritically without actually reading the complaint.
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Postby Novus America » Tue Jan 22, 2019 3:37 pm

Karu Nadu wrote:
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I don't think we were sneezing on them to intentionally wipe them out.

Most of their deaths were from accidental spread of diseases they were not immunized against, and while we do need to slip in a "sorry" about that, it was almost (key word here is almost) never intentional.

You're mostly right, but after most of them were dead, we forced them off their homelands, and onto camps, where, to this day, they live in terrible conditions.


Actually the majority of Native Americans today do NOT live on reservations. Moreover it is false to call these "camps" after 1924. Native Americans are full American citizens, with full rights of movement. They are not required to live on reservations, they have full freedom of movement throughout the US, and are completely free to leave anytime they so choose.

The conditions on many reservations are horrible, but the problems they have are for the most part not unique to the reservations, but are common throughout similarly situated rural areas. However this is more a failure of rural policy in general, rather than Native American policy in general, though admittedly the confused legal status of the reservations is problematic they also get some additional resources (such as the Indian Health Service) other rural areas do not get.

The problems they face today are not primarily caused by current racism however.

Obviously the forced relocations were horrible, but it is no longer the 1800s.

This does not change the fact we still need to drastically reform rural policy in general, and reservation policy in particular.
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Postby Novus America » Tue Jan 22, 2019 3:45 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
Scomagia wrote:Indeed. The suffering if your forebears doesn't grant you some magical status.

That being said, the current suffering of Native Americans is an untold tragedy in America.


Certainly the conditions on many reservations are very bad, and need to be resolved (though only 22% actually live on reservations).
But again most problems there are not exclusive to the reservations, but a failure of rural policy in general. Low life expectancy, high drug abuse, high domestic abuse, poor health are problems for many rural people regardless of ethnicity.

And unfortunately rural suffering is a largely untold story in America today.
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Novus America represents my vision of an awesome Atompunk near future United States of America expanded to the entire North American continent, Guyana and the Philippines. The population would be around 700 million.
Think something like prewar Fallout, minus the bad stuff.

Politically I am an independent. I support what is good for the country, which means I cannot support either party.

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Postby ShakaZuli » Tue Jan 22, 2019 3:45 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
ShakaZuli wrote:If say one day Hispanics become a 90% of the country, USA will basically turn into Mexico or Brazil 2,0. Simple as that. All the good things in USA were created by white people. I am sorry to say it but that are the facts.

You do know that the idea of “white” changes every few years or so? Go back about 200 years and the Irish and Spanish where not considered white, yet they are now.

Same will and is happening with Hispanics. Many Hispanics currently view themselves as white.

That of course is not true. Between 1924 and 1965 there was a thing called National Origins Formula which favored whites over everybody else. Even before that the first immigration act of 1792 applied only to "white persons with good charachter". So in the eyes of the US government Irish and Italians were indeed white. You are confusing anti-catholic sentiment with modern day immigration issue.

Some Hispanics might be white but thoose who are coming illegaly are most likely not.

P.S. Speaking of Spanish there was one Spaniard declared honorary citizen of USA
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Postby Karu Nadu » Tue Jan 22, 2019 3:47 pm

ShakaZuli wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:You do know that the idea of “white” changes every few years or so? Go back about 200 years and the Irish and Spanish where not considered white, yet they are now.

Same will and is happening with Hispanics. Many Hispanics currently view themselves as white.

That of course is not true. Between 1924 and 1965 there was a thing called National Origins Formula which favored whites over everybody else. Even before that the first immigration act of 1792 applied only to "white persons with good charachter". So in the eyes of the US government Irish and Italians were indeed white. You are confusing anti-catholic sentiment with modern day immigration issue.

Some Hispanics might be white but thoose who are coming illegaly are most likely not.

Why are we debating immigration?

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Postby Scomagia » Tue Jan 22, 2019 3:47 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Scomagia wrote:Zing!


Which you all just swallow uncritically without actually reading the complaint.

You're upset that a sensationalist story that you wanted to be true turned out to be a lie. We get it, Vass.
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Postby ShakaZuli » Tue Jan 22, 2019 3:48 pm

Karu Nadu wrote:
ShakaZuli wrote:That of course is not true. Between 1924 and 1965 there was a thing called National Origins Formula which favored whites over everybody else. Even before that the first immigration act of 1792 applied only to "white persons with good charachter". So in the eyes of the US government Irish and Italians were indeed white. You are confusing anti-catholic sentiment with modern day immigration issue.

Some Hispanics might be white but thoose who are coming illegaly are most likely not.

Why are we debating immigration?

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Postby Vassenor » Tue Jan 22, 2019 3:48 pm

Scomagia wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
Which you all just swallow uncritically without actually reading the complaint.

You're upset that a sensationalist story that you wanted to be true turned out to be a lie. We get it, Vass.


Why yes it is ironic that you're pushing sensationalism in the face of fact.
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Postby Novus America » Tue Jan 22, 2019 3:50 pm

ShakaZuli wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:You do know that the idea of “white” changes every few years or so? Go back about 200 years and the Irish and Spanish where not considered white, yet they are now.

Same will and is happening with Hispanics. Many Hispanics currently view themselves as white.

That of course is not true. Between 1924 and 1965 there was a thing called National Origins Formula which favored whites over everybody else. Even before that the first immigration act of 1792 applied only to "white persons with good charachter". So in the eyes of the US government Irish and Italians were indeed white. You are confusing anti-catholic sentiment with modern day immigration issue.

Some Hispanics might be white but thoose who are coming illegaly are most likely not.

P.S. Speaking of Spanish there was one Spaniard declared honorary citizen of USA


Actually the National Origins formula did not apply to the Americas.
So Hispanics (or at least Latin Americans) were actually exempt.
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Novus America represents my vision of an awesome Atompunk near future United States of America expanded to the entire North American continent, Guyana and the Philippines. The population would be around 700 million.
Think something like prewar Fallout, minus the bad stuff.

Politically I am an independent. I support what is good for the country, which means I cannot support either party.

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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Tue Jan 22, 2019 3:55 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Scomagia wrote:You're upset that a sensationalist story that you wanted to be true turned out to be a lie. We get it, Vass.


Why yes it is ironic that you're pushing sensationalism in the face of fact.

No, that's what you do.

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