Ah gotcha, thanks for the clarification.
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by Liriena » Tue Jan 22, 2019 2:25 pm
Scomagia wrote:Liriena wrote:You mean this BuzzFeed/Mueller probe thing? Mueller's office claims that BuzzFeed's report is inaccurate, but mentions no specifics and doesn't explain either way whether they claim the inaccuracies are partial or if the entire report is unreliable. And since BuzzFeed is doubling down...
Buzzfeed is garbage.
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by Northern Davincia » Tue Jan 22, 2019 2:37 pm
Conserative Morality wrote:"Two gin-scented tears trickled down the sides of his nose. But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Hoppe."
by Ethel mermania » Tue Jan 22, 2019 2:44 pm
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by The South Falls » Tue Jan 22, 2019 3:15 pm
by Novus America » Tue Jan 22, 2019 3:19 pm
by Northern Davincia » Tue Jan 22, 2019 3:23 pm
Novus America wrote:Karu Nadu wrote:It's about history. Were your ancestors partially wiped of the face of the Earth?
Many "white" Americans are of Polish descent you know...
There are also those of Jewish, Armenian, Greek, Irish etc. descent. I am not sure how the horrors your ancestors may or may not have suffered make you more or less American.
Conserative Morality wrote:"Two gin-scented tears trickled down the sides of his nose. But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Hoppe."
by Thermodolia » Tue Jan 22, 2019 3:23 pm
ShakaZuli wrote:Karu Nadu wrote:So...
When white people disappear, brown people destroy the great things they created?
...that's not racially charged...
If say one day Hispanics become a 90% of the country, USA will basically turn into Mexico or Brazil 2,0. Simple as that. All the good things in USA were created by white people. I am sorry to say it but that are the facts.
by Scomagia » Tue Jan 22, 2019 3:28 pm
Novus America wrote:Karu Nadu wrote:It's about history. Were your ancestors partially wiped of the face of the Earth?
Many "white" Americans are of Polish descent you know...
There are also those of Jewish, Armenian, Greek, Irish etc. descent. I am not sure how the horrors your ancestors may or may not have suffered make you more or less American.
by Northern Davincia » Tue Jan 22, 2019 3:29 pm
Scomagia wrote:Novus America wrote:
Many "white" Americans are of Polish descent you know...
There are also those of Jewish, Armenian, Greek, Irish etc. descent. I am not sure how the horrors your ancestors may or may not have suffered make you more or less American.
Indeed. The suffering if your forebears doesn't grant you some magical status.
Conserative Morality wrote:"Two gin-scented tears trickled down the sides of his nose. But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Hoppe."
by Aureumterra » Tue Jan 22, 2019 3:30 pm
by ShakaZuli » Tue Jan 22, 2019 3:34 pm
by Vassenor » Tue Jan 22, 2019 3:36 pm
by Novus America » Tue Jan 22, 2019 3:37 pm
Karu Nadu wrote:Western Vale Confederacy wrote:
I don't think we were sneezing on them to intentionally wipe them out.
Most of their deaths were from accidental spread of diseases they were not immunized against, and while we do need to slip in a "sorry" about that, it was almost (key word here is almost) never intentional.
You're mostly right, but after most of them were dead, we forced them off their homelands, and onto camps, where, to this day, they live in terrible conditions.
by Novus America » Tue Jan 22, 2019 3:45 pm
by ShakaZuli » Tue Jan 22, 2019 3:45 pm
Thermodolia wrote:ShakaZuli wrote:If say one day Hispanics become a 90% of the country, USA will basically turn into Mexico or Brazil 2,0. Simple as that. All the good things in USA were created by white people. I am sorry to say it but that are the facts.
You do know that the idea of “white” changes every few years or so? Go back about 200 years and the Irish and Spanish where not considered white, yet they are now.
Same will and is happening with Hispanics. Many Hispanics currently view themselves as white.
by Karu Nadu » Tue Jan 22, 2019 3:47 pm
ShakaZuli wrote:Thermodolia wrote:You do know that the idea of “white” changes every few years or so? Go back about 200 years and the Irish and Spanish where not considered white, yet they are now.
Same will and is happening with Hispanics. Many Hispanics currently view themselves as white.
That of course is not true. Between 1924 and 1965 there was a thing called National Origins Formula which favored whites over everybody else. Even before that the first immigration act of 1792 applied only to "white persons with good charachter". So in the eyes of the US government Irish and Italians were indeed white. You are confusing anti-catholic sentiment with modern day immigration issue.
Some Hispanics might be white but thoose who are coming illegaly are most likely not.
by ShakaZuli » Tue Jan 22, 2019 3:48 pm
Karu Nadu wrote:ShakaZuli wrote:That of course is not true. Between 1924 and 1965 there was a thing called National Origins Formula which favored whites over everybody else. Even before that the first immigration act of 1792 applied only to "white persons with good charachter". So in the eyes of the US government Irish and Italians were indeed white. You are confusing anti-catholic sentiment with modern day immigration issue.
Some Hispanics might be white but thoose who are coming illegaly are most likely not.
Why are we debating immigration?
by Vassenor » Tue Jan 22, 2019 3:48 pm
by Novus America » Tue Jan 22, 2019 3:50 pm
ShakaZuli wrote:Thermodolia wrote:You do know that the idea of “white” changes every few years or so? Go back about 200 years and the Irish and Spanish where not considered white, yet they are now.
Same will and is happening with Hispanics. Many Hispanics currently view themselves as white.
That of course is not true. Between 1924 and 1965 there was a thing called National Origins Formula which favored whites over everybody else. Even before that the first immigration act of 1792 applied only to "white persons with good charachter". So in the eyes of the US government Irish and Italians were indeed white. You are confusing anti-catholic sentiment with modern day immigration issue.
Some Hispanics might be white but thoose who are coming illegaly are most likely not.
P.S. Speaking of Spanish there was one Spaniard declared honorary citizen of USA
by LiberNovusAmericae » Tue Jan 22, 2019 3:55 pm
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