Teens Surround And Denigrate Native Americans In DC

[Flaxxony]

This story has been refuted as a total crock at this point. I am so tired of the faux outrage from leftists who will slander and defame a 15 year old boy and make death threats for - GASP - daring to smirk at someone hitting a drum 6 inches from his face.

So much bloviating, so much virtue signaling, so much righteous indignation, and all because, good forbid a Christian white kid doesn't accept his untouchable status in the new order and prostrate himself adequately before the PC altar. All the people who pushed this fake story and threatened this kid on Twitter should be sued.

[Des-Bal]

I should clarify, for the sake of making myself clear, that I have very little problem with the school chants to drown out verbal slurs and insults, but the mockery of Nathan Phillips was nonetheless immature regardless of how deserving Nathan Phillips was of ridicule. They’re of course teenagers, in a group also, but that does not excuse that behaviour.

What mockery specifically? Chanting back? I don't think that's particularly offensive. Given how Phillips approached them it's a perfectly reasonable thing to do. If Phillips was just talking to them and they started doing a mock-native chant I'd 100% agree that behavior is inexcusable. I've sung at people who sang at me it's not a crazy thing, if they started making fart noises I'd agree it was immature mockery but that's not what happened.

[Vassenor]

This story has been refuted as a total crock at this point. I am so tired of the faux outrage from leftists who will slander and defame a 15 year old boy and make death threats for - GASP - daring to smirk at someone hitting a drum 6 inches from his face.

So much bloviating, so much virtue signaling, so much righteous indignation, and all because, good forbid a Christian white kid doesn't accept his untouchable status in the new order and prostrate himself adequately before the PC altar. All the people who pushed this fake story and threatened this kid on Twitter should be sued.

Maybe we should start talking about the stuff they actually yelled about sexual assault then.

Also that strawman looks like it needs a field to stand in.

[The Black Party]

Good work by the teens, hope to see more youth like this in the future!

[Vassenor]

Good work by the teens, hope to see more youth like this in the future!

What's good about "it's not rape if she enjoyed it"?

[Minzerland II]

Certainly how the media has protrayed it and how hige it blew up is wrong. Still, I feel the other side is just forgiving the behavior ofnthe students entirely.

As for the chaperones allow me to explain why I put them at a huge fault for the interaction: according tk the students, after getting confronted for the first time by the Black Israelites, the students asked their chaperones if they could do their school chant in response to the Black Israelites. Which the chaperones allowed. Meanwhile, they did nothing to move the group along from them, and seem to have been fine with the kids getting into a literal shouting match woth the Black Israelites.

Nathan Phillips was an idiot, but he was an idiot by circumstance. The Black Israelites are just raging assholes to everyone. The Chaperones encouraged and allowed the students to get riled up and rowdy.

I agree in part, because yes the second the dude ripped his shirt off I'd have stepped in. But at as Catholic School teacher, I understand the rationale for letting them respond to the Black Israelites with school cheers. Thousands of us were there for arally, they're already pumped. I don't know if this was before or after the march (as I said when my group was at the LM none of this was going on. ) I'm inclined to think before (Seeing as the march ends at the SCOTUS) which means they would already be hyped up for the march. They wanted to shout school spirit cheers in response to vitriolic slurs being hurled against them. I get it, drown out the hatred with love. But then they got ridiculous, as teenagers tend to do.

When did the March for Life end? I suspect that this is after the March or that they decided to not attend the March after all, namely because, according to themselves, they arrived at 5:30 and were waiting for their buses to take them to Kentucky.

[Des-Bal]

Maybe we should start talking about the stuff they actually yelled about sexual assault then.

Let's. How many of them yelled stuff about sexual assault and what was the context? Was it the entire school as a mob or was it one guy who you're trying to attach to a greater issue so this is somehow not a story about people threatening and harassing a group of teenagers?

[Des-Bal]

What's good about "it's not rape if she enjoyed it"?

The fact that one guy said it to mock someone, nobody signed off on it, and one guy distanced himself from the comment.

[Flaxxony]

This story has been refuted as a total crock at this point. I am so tired of the faux outrage from leftists who will slander and defame a 15 year old boy and make death threats for - GASP - daring to smirk at someone hitting a drum 6 inches from his face.

So much bloviating, so much virtue signaling, so much righteous indignation, and all because, good forbid a Christian white kid doesn't accept his untouchable status in the new order and prostrate himself adequately before the PC altar. All the people who pushed this fake story and threatened this kid on Twitter should be sued.

Maybe we should start talking about the stuff they actually yelled about sexual assault then.

Also that strawman looks like it needs a field to stand in.

#Libsnark 2019

What exactly DID they say then?

[Vassenor]

Maybe we should start talking about the stuff they actually yelled about sexual assault then.

Also that strawman looks like it needs a field to stand in.

#Libsnark 2019

What exactly DID they say then?

Shall we start with "it's not rape if she enjoyed it"?

[Des-Bal]

Shall we start with "it's not rape if she enjoyed it"?

Okay, where do we continue?

[Tarsonis]

I agree in part, because yes the second the dude ripped his shirt off I'd have stepped in. But at as Catholic School teacher, I understand the rationale for letting them respond to the Black Israelites with school cheers. Thousands of us were there for arally, they're already pumped. I don't know if this was before or after the march (as I said when my group was at the LM none of this was going on. ) I'm inclined to think before (Seeing as the march ends at the SCOTUS) which means they would already be hyped up for the march. They wanted to shout school spirit cheers in response to vitriolic slurs being hurled against them. I get it, drown out the hatred with love. But then they got ridiculous, as teenagers tend to do.

When did the March for Life end? I suspect that this is after the March or that they decided to not attend the March after all, namely because, according to themselves, they arrived at 5:30 and were waiting for their buses to take them to Kentucky.

Ah it would be after then. They must have marched back to the LM.

[Minzerland II]

I should clarify, for the sake of making myself clear, that I have very little problem with the school chants to drown out verbal slurs and insults, but the mockery of Nathan Phillips was nonetheless immature regardless of how deserving Nathan Phillips was of ridicule. They’re of course teenagers, in a group also, but that does not excuse that behaviour.

What mockery specifically? Chanting back? I don't think that's particularly offensive. Given how Phillips approached them it's a perfectly reasonable thing to do. If Phillips was just talking to them and they started doing a mock-native chant I'd 100% agree that behavior is inexcusable. I've sung at people who sang at me it's not a crazy thing, if they started making fart noises I'd agree it was immature mockery but that's not what happened.

Though I see your point, I don’t think we will agree on this issue, coming from differing angles, so I’ll just concede and say my last explanation of my meaning, and you can disagree to your liking.


I just think they should have approached the ridiculous situation with more restraint, especially if they’re from a Catholic High School (most aren’t practicing, I assume, though). The behaviour lowers them to the bottom, so to speak; they should approach this in a more disciplined and restrained manner, instead of jumping into the teenage, hysterical mockery. I rarely joined in these things in my time at school, but I did once or twice. It is immature in that they’re meant to be growing into men, not school children.

Good work by the teens, hope to see more youth like this in the future!

What's good about "it's not rape if she enjoyed it"?

‘He doesn’t go to Covington Cath!’ This should be investigated for the good of everyone.

[Flaxxony]

#Libsnark 2019

What exactly DID they say then?

Shall we start with "it's not rape if she enjoyed it"?

What about it? Do we really need a national outrage machine every time a 15 year old makes an off-color/tasteless joke? (Assuming it's even true or not distorted by fake news)

Meanwhile we have liberals all over the internet openly calling for Sandmann to get punched/killed along with his family and where's the outrage? Where's the unified hysterical response to destroy these morons' livelihoods and publicly humiliate them?

The double standard is truly beyond belief.

[Vassenor]

Shall we start with "it's not rape if she enjoyed it"?

What about it? Do we really need a national outrage machine every time a 15 year old makes an off-color/tasteless joke?

Meanwhile we have liberals all over the internet openly calling for Sandmann to get punched/killed along with his family and where's the outrage? Where's the unified hysterical response to destroy these morons' livelihoods and publicly humiliate them?

The double standard is truly beyond belief.

So you're just going to deflect then?

[Cameroi]

not much to add, except that native americans are the ONLY non-emigrant americans there are.
the only real non-hyphinated americans. washichu are euro-americans, with a hyphin, just like afro and asian.

not saying anyone should go back anywhere or anything else. i'm more then 3/4 euro-american myself.
this is the kind of behavior that romantacizing hate encourages though.

its what having someone like trump in the oval office, makes predictable and expected.

and it is shameful. and that these kids were from some kind of religious school,
well it certainly doesn't say anything positive or good for that kind of education either.

[Des-Bal]

Though I see your point, I don’t think we will agree on this issue, coming from differing angles, so I’ll just concede and say my last explanation of my meaning, and you can disagree to your liking.


I just think they should have approached the ridiculous situation with more restraint, especially if they’re from a Catholic High School (most aren’t practicing, I assume, though). The behaviour lowers them to the bottom, so to speak; they should approach this in a more disciplined and restrained manner, instead of jumping into the teenage, hysterical mockery. I rarely joined in these things in my time at school, but I did once or twice. It is immature in that they’re meant to be growing into men, not school children.


‘He doesn’t go to Covington Cath!’ This should be investigated for the good of everyone.

I accept that we can't reach an agreement here. Discipline and restrain in what context though? In a courtroom- sure just ignore it. Hanging out with your friends? That's totally a situation where you can jump into some hysterical mockery. I could see a lot of people doing the same thing, especially if it didn't seem like a hostile confrontation. Even among much older people; for gasoline reasons I spent a lot of time drinking with 50+ gay and lesbian couples and if someone walked up to a group of them chanting and playing an instrument they'd jump in chanting back. I don't even see this as especially hateful mockery- the man wasn't being skewered.


I think "he doesn't go to Covington" was a joke, just like the original statement.

[Flaxxony]

What about it? Do we really need a national outrage machine every time a 15 year old makes an off-color/tasteless joke?

Meanwhile we have liberals all over the internet openly calling for Sandmann to get punched/killed along with his family and where's the outrage? Where's the unified hysterical response to destroy these morons' livelihoods and publicly humiliate them?

The double standard is truly beyond belief.

So you're just going to deflect then?

What's there to deflect? You're fishing for reasons to be upset because you're mad that there is NO STORY HERE.

[The Black Forrest]

Aspersions have been cast over Mr. Nathan Philips story, particularly that he was a Vietnam Veteran, including that he was also supposedly doing similar things in 2014-15, that he’s worked as an actor (in a music video, I am 7nsure if this is him) and that he has changed story and tact. Whilst I can say that I am hestitant to doubt his service in the military, I think it is obvious that he changed stories throughout the affair.

Oh please use a "real" source. Speculation attacks are nonsense when considering how easy it is to check if a person was in the military.

[Tarsonis]

What about it? Do we really need a national outrage machine every time a 15 year old makes an off-color/tasteless joke?

Meanwhile we have liberals all over the internet openly calling for Sandmann to get punched/killed along with his family and where's the outrage? Where's the unified hysterical response to destroy these morons' livelihoods and publicly humiliate them?

The double standard is truly beyond belief.

So you're just going to deflect then?

Fine how about the fact that those aren't actually the Covington kids? Not a MAGA hat among the bunch.

[Des-Bal]

So you're just going to deflect then?

From what? This is a thread about a group of teenagers standing around while a guy chanted at them and you're bringing up the fact that one of them apparently said something offensive earlier in the day. You are deflecting and unfortunately you're deflecting to an issue with no meat on it.

[Flaxxony]

not much to add, except that native americans are the ONLY non-emigrant americans there are.
the only real non-hyphinated americans. washichu are euro-americans, with a hyphin, just like afro and asian.

not saying anyone should go back anywhere or anything else. i'm more then 3/4 euro-american myself.
this is the kind of behavior that romantacizing hate encourages though.

its what having someone like trump in the oval office, makes predictable and expected.

and it is shameful. and that these kids were from some kind of religious school,
well it certainly doesn't say anything positive or good for that kind of education either.

Who cares who was there first? That's never been an acceptable argument when whites make it with regards to any non-whites, even in Europe.

[Des-Bal]

Oh please use a "real" source. Speculation attacks are nonsense when considering how easy it is to check if a person was in the military.

Marines weren't sent to Vietnam when he was old enough to join and he has referred to himself a a "Vietnam Era Veteran" not a "Vietnam Veteran."

[The Black Forrest]

Oh please use a "real" source. Speculation attacks are nonsense when considering how easy it is to check if a person was in the military.

Marines weren't sent to Vietnam when he was old enough to join and he has referred to himself a a "Vietnam Era Veteran" not a "Vietnam Veteran."

Still speculation.

I am surprised nobody has verified his military status.

[Tarsonis]

Aspersions have been cast over Mr. Nathan Philips story, particularly that he was a Vietnam Veteran, including that he was also supposedly doing similar things in 2014-15, that he’s worked as an actor (in a music video, I am 7nsure if this is him) and that he has changed story and tact. Whilst I can say that I am hestitant to doubt his service in the military, I think it is obvious that he changed stories throughout the affair.

Oh please use a "real" source. Speculation attacks are nonsense when considering how easy it is to check if a person was in the military.

But he does have a history of misrepresenting situation to paint himself as a victim.