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Postby Crockerland » Tue Jan 22, 2019 9:32 am

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To be fair, there *are* some students actually mocking the Native guy, which is pretty damn clear if you look at some of the background kids. The organized "school cheer" happened well before the native guy showed up.

While the kids were dumbasses, I feel likenthe Chaperones for them were incredibly irresponsible on numerous occasions. From encouraging their students to get riled up, to not trying to remove the students from the situation as was their responsibility.

Don't get me wrong, the Black Israelites were fucking awful, but the last thing you do is engage people like that. They are awful people who say awful things to everybody to get a rise out.of them.

And the Native shouldn't have interjected himself ino the situation, making him a dumbass.

As I have said before, everybody here was looking for a confrontation, and shockingly they found one when they were specifically looking for it.


Clearly the true perpetrator is Abraham Lincoln for just sitting in his memorial and watching this all happen. Smh

Well to be fair to Abe, he would have to get up out of his chair to do anything, and if this incident has shown us anything, standing while white is apparently immensely offensive.
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Video from two students of Covington Catholic.
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Minzerland II wrote:Video from two students of Covington Catholic.


So they did nothing wrong eh?

Granted the trolling/doxing/etc. is wrong.....
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The Black Forrest wrote:So they did nothing wrong eh?

Granted the trolling/doxing/etc. is wrong.....


What did they do other than that one guy looking eminently punchable?
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The Black Forrest wrote:Granted the trolling/doxing/etc. is wrong.....


I miss the days when we could just take that point of view as read and not assume that because someone doesn't include a condemnation of it in every statement that they make they must somehow tacitly support it.
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I hope the young man will become woke and become a white nationalists after he experiance on first hand the amounth of anti-white hate the left and media have. Also, thoose adult minorities are real cowards since they decided to pick up on teens. The media grotesquely presented the adults as victims.

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The Black Forrest wrote:
Minzerland II wrote:Video from two students of Covington Catholic.


So they did nothing wrong eh?

Granted the trolling/doxing/etc. is wrong.....

Out of all the groups present they did the least amount wrong, the Balck Hebrews were the worst, Mr. Phillip’s stupidity of not explaining what he was doing is second, and the boys third. Of course the media is the one to blame the most on for beginning the drums of war against them and fanning a social media mob. This would have been avoided if it wasn’t for their irresponsibility.
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Minzerland II wrote:Video from two students of Covington Catholic.


So they did nothing wrong eh?

Granted the trolling/doxing/etc. is wrong.....


Acting like a giant group of douches is certainly not a "good" thing. On our school trips, we never felt the need to act like these nitwits did. Sure, we would do some silly things, but not get into giant idiotic screaming matches and the like. It is exceedingly childish how they acted, and while they are minors, they are still teenagers and some level of responsibility should be expected from them. They aren't 10 year olds. They are 16. There is a massive amount of difference between how you expect a 16 year old to act than a 10 year old, particularly on the national mall.

The doxing, death threats, etc. Are way over the line, obviously. Frankly, this shouldn't be news. But acting like the kids were some sort of saints is just plain idiotic. They were being massive douches, and their chaperones encouraged this behavior and did jackall to stop it.

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So as it's been established that it was not the case, how about changing the thread title to one more resembling a factual account?
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ShakaZuli wrote:I hope the young man will become woke and become a white nationalists after he experiance on first hand the amounth of anti-white hate the left and media have. Also, thoose adult minorities are real cowards since they decided to pick up on teens. The media grotesquely presented the adults as victims.


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Postby Vassenor » Tue Jan 22, 2019 9:49 am

ShakaZuli wrote:I hope the young man will become woke and become a white nationalists after he experiance on first hand the amounth of anti-white hate the left and media have. Also, thoose adult minorities are real cowards since they decided to pick up on teens. The media grotesquely presented the adults as victims.


Uh... huh...

So are you done using him to project yet?
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Postby Minzerland II » Tue Jan 22, 2019 9:51 am

The Black Forrest wrote:
Minzerland II wrote:Video from two students of Covington Catholic.


So they did nothing wrong eh?

Granted the trolling/doxing/etc. is wrong.....

No, they did plenty wrong, mostly revolving around immature misbehaviour in the form of mocking and taunting, and crude and brutal jokes (disgusting, but also a disgustingly common joke in any school. I would caution against taking this as endorsement by the stundent of rape, however.) All of which deserve punishment.

Most of what the kids were accused of doing? Yeah, they did mostly none of that (besides the mocking and taunting) and people have been scrapping the bottom of the barrel for anything to justify the mobbing, doxxing and threats.

EDIT: I’m hoping that a more complete version of the video I’ve included in this post comes to light. Not only for context, but also because at the end someone begins to say, ‘he doesn't go....’

EDIT 2: Alright, so it turns out, in this lengthier version, someone said, ‘he doesn’t go to Covington Cath!’
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Postby Tarsonis » Tue Jan 22, 2019 9:54 am

Seangoli wrote::?:
The Black Forrest wrote:
So they did nothing wrong eh?

Granted the trolling/doxing/etc. is wrong.....


Acting like a giant group of douches is certainly not a "good" thing. On our school trips, we never felt the need to act like these nitwits did. Sure, we would do some silly things, but not get into giant idiotic screaming matches and the like. It is exceedingly childish how they acted, and while they are minors, they are still teenagers and some level of responsibility should be expected from them. They aren't 10 year olds. They are 16. There is a massive amount of difference between how you expect a 16 year old to act than a 10 year old, particularly on the national mall.

Yes and no. Yes there are some things we expect teenagers to do over 10 year old's in an instance like this, I'd say they're marginally the same. I teach high-school juniors, and as much as i love my students they really have no sense of cause and effect. And they're hindered in that regard as their pre-fontal cortexes are underdeveloped at that age. You get a bunch of teens together, they're liable to just about anything. Yes they should be held to some level of responsibility, but it should be more of "this is a teachable moment" rather than "GET THEM! RUIN THEIR LIVES!!"

You're right though that Chaperones also had part to play, I also led a MFL pilgrimage, and my students were also present at the Lincoln Memorial and we witnessed the Indigenous peoples march. And we kept a tight hand on our students, cancelled their sightseeing time and went straight to the March after taking photos because we recognized how the situation could turn bad.
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Vassenor wrote:
ShakaZuli wrote:I hope the young man will become woke and become a white nationalists after he experiance on first hand the amounth of anti-white hate the left and media have. Also, thoose adult minorities are real cowards since they decided to pick up on teens. The media grotesquely presented the adults as victims.


Uh... huh...

So are you done using him to project yet?

I would not call that I project on him something. It is just that I feel racial solidarity with this teen. Besides being both white and male, we are also both Catholic. If I knew him personally I would start to show him crime statistics, discusss history, instroduce him to workds of Kevin McDonald and Charles Murray and so on.
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Uh... huh...

So are you done using him to project yet?

I would not call that I project on him something. It is just that I feel racial solidarity with this teen. Besides being both white and male, we are also both Catholic. If I knew him personally I would start to show him crime statistics, discusss history and so on.


So basically you're using him as a stick to wave around as you rant about how much it sucks that the White Man isn't supreme any more.
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Postby Hirota » Tue Jan 22, 2019 9:58 am

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The Black Forrest wrote:Granted the trolling/doxing/etc. is wrong.....


I miss the days when we could just take that point of view as read and not assume that because someone doesn't include a condemnation of it in every statement that they make they must somehow tacitly support it.
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Vassenor wrote:
ShakaZuli wrote:I would not call that I project on him something. It is just that I feel racial solidarity with this teen. Besides being both white and male, we are also both Catholic. If I knew him personally I would start to show him crime statistics, discusss history and so on.


So basically you're using him as a stick to wave around as you rant about how much it sucks that the White Man isn't supreme any more.

I am using his as an evidence that part of the elite hate white people. And there you have you outed yourself as an anti-white bigot. You may destroy us demographically, but remember once whites are gone from USA so will the whole country. USA and Western Europe will lose their first world status. There are already historical precedents that proves this.
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ShakaZuli wrote:
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So basically you're using him as a stick to wave around as you rant about how much it sucks that the White Man isn't supreme any more.

I am using his as an evidence that part of the elite hate white people. And there you have you outed yourself as an anti-white bigot. You may destroy us demographically, but remember once whites are gone from USA so will the whole country. USA and Western Europe will lose their first world status. There are already historical precedents that proves this.


How the actual fuck did you get that from what I said? :eyebrow:
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ShakaZuli wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
So basically you're using him as a stick to wave around as you rant about how much it sucks that the White Man isn't supreme any more.

I am using his as an evidence that part of the elite hate white people. And there you have you outed yourself as an anti-white bigot. You may destroy us demographically, but remember once whites are gone from USA so will the whole country. USA and Western Europe will lose their first world status. There are already historical precedents that proves this.

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I can't tell whats worse, the lefties that still are waving this around as if the teens did something wrong or the white supremacists that want to use it to start a race war
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ShakaZuli wrote:I am using his as an evidence that part of the elite hate white people. And there you have you outed yourself as an anti-white bigot. You may destroy us demographically, but remember once whites are gone from USA so will the whole country. USA and Western Europe will lose their first world status. There are already historical precedents that proves this.


How the actual fuck did you get that from what I said? :eyebrow:

You seem to imply if whites are somehow rule their country that it is bad. I am sure that minority man being supreme is positive to you.

Now, listen once whites are gone from USA and Western Europe thoose place will end like South Africa and Zimbabwe.

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ShakaZuli wrote:
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How the actual fuck did you get that from what I said? :eyebrow:

You seem to imply if whites are somehow rule their country that it is bad. I am sure that minority man being supreme is positive to you.

Now, listen once whites are gone from USA and Western Europe thoose place will end like South Africa and Zimbabwe.


...did you pull something reaching that hard?
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Sapientia Et Bellum wrote:I can't tell whats worse, the lefties that still are waving this around as if the teens did something wrong or the white supremacists that want to use it to start a race war

The ‘lefties’ because they actually pose a serious threat to these boys and their families due to their overreactions. Mind you I’m only talking about the crazies here. The white supramacists don’t really have all that much in the way of actually doing something.
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Postby Seangoli » Tue Jan 22, 2019 10:07 am

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Acting like a giant group of douches is certainly not a "good" thing. On our school trips, we never felt the need to act like these nitwits did. Sure, we would do some silly things, but not get into giant idiotic screaming matches and the like. It is exceedingly childish how they acted, and while they are minors, they are still teenagers and some level of responsibility should be expected from them. They aren't 10 year olds. They are 16. There is a massive amount of difference between how you expect a 16 year old to act than a 10 year old, particularly on the national mall.

Yes and no. Yes there are some things we expect teenagers to do over 10 year old's in an instance like this, I'd say they're marginally the same. I teach high-school juniors, and as much as i love my students they really have no sense of cause and effect. And they're hindered in that regard as their pre-fontal cortexes are underdeveloped at that age. You get a bunch of teens together, they're liable to just about anything. Yes they should be held to some level of responsibility, but it should be more of "this is a teachable moment" rather than "GET THEM! RUIN THEIR LIVES!!"

You're right though that Chaperones also had part to play, I also led a MFL pilgrimage, and my students were also present at the Lincoln Memorial and we witnessed the Indigenous peoples march. And we kept a tight hand on our students, cancelled their sightseeing time and went straight to the March after taking photos because we recognized how the situation could turn bad.


Certainly how the media has protrayed it and how hige it blew up is wrong. Still, I feel the other side is just forgiving the behavior ofnthe students entirely.

As for the chaperones allow me to explain why I put them at a huge fault for the interaction: according tk the students, after getting confronted for the first time by the Black Israelites, the students asked their chaperones if they could do their school chant in response to the Black Israelites. Which the chaperones allowed. Meanwhile, they did nothing to move the group along from them, and seem to have been fine with the kids getting into a literal shouting match woth the Black Israelites.

Nathan Phillips was an idiot, but he was an idiot by circumstance. The Black Israelites are just raging assholes to everyone. The Chaperones encouraged and allowed the students to get riled up and rowdy.

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Sapientia Et Bellum wrote:I can't tell whats worse, the lefties that still are waving this around as if the teens did something wrong or the white supremacists that want to use it to start a race war

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