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Postby Camelone » Mon Jan 21, 2019 9:09 pm

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Camelone wrote:Have you been following this thread at all? Cause right now I'm thinking you may be wearing highly tinted glasses.

You're just starting to think that?

Never interacted with them before, are they normally like this?
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This is a theme isn’t it? Called ‘blackout’ (2011). It is also noteworthy that they did a ‘whiteout’ in 2015, where people can be seen in full white body paint. Ignore that this is Mike Cernovich.
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I know what I think, I will put this here and let everyone come to their own conclusions

What is being said? How do you know it is racist?
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Postby Minzerland II » Mon Jan 21, 2019 9:15 pm

In any case, here is another interesting development. It is hard to tell, but very possible that it is them.
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Postby Camelone » Mon Jan 21, 2019 9:17 pm

Minzerland II wrote:In any case, here is another interesting development. It is hard to tell, but very possible that it is them.

Why are they yelling MAGA at randoms?

EDIT: I keep rewatching the clip and listening to them but her story does not add up, she says the interaction was them walking by and they started randomly shouting MAGA at her? Her profile say that she is from CT and from looking at her previous posts and wallpaper she was in DC probably for a political reason due to it being the March for Life and there was most likely an interaction before the video was played where politics was mentioned. Pretty weird to just start yelling MAGA at a girl as a form of harassment or taunt. Probably some small political exchange occurred and when she walked away they shouted out MAGA.
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Do you have a problem with free and civil debate carrying on past you deciding you've come to a conclusion?

Yeah, when it collapses to noting more than political namecalling and fruitless back and forths
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Postby The Two Jerseys » Mon Jan 21, 2019 9:22 pm

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Minzerland II wrote:In any case, here is another interesting development. It is hard to tell, but very possible that it is them.

Why are they yelling MAGA at randoms?

The same reason why fans leaving a Philadelphia Flyers game will randomly start shouting "E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!".
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Camelone wrote:Why are they yelling MAGA at randoms?

The same reason why fans leaving a Philadelphia Flyers game will randomly start shouting "E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!".

Because they won?
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The Two Jerseys wrote:The same reason why fans leaving a Philadelphia Flyers game will randomly start shouting "E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!".

Because they won?

*casually walks by and bumps the thread back on topic*
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Postby UniversalCommons » Mon Jan 21, 2019 9:45 pm

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Blazelander wrote:First Story: "They were in the process of attacking these four black individuals," Phillip said. "I was there and I was witnessing all of this ... As this kept on going on and escalating, it just got to a point where you do something or you walk away, you know? You see something that is wrong and you're faced with that choice of right or wrong. "

https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/ ... 630256002/

Second Story: “It was getting ugly, and I was thinking: ‘I’ve got to find myself an exit out of this situation and finish my song at the Lincoln Memorial,’ ” Phillips recalled. “I started going that way, and that guy in the hat stood in my way, and we were at an impasse. He just blocked my way and wouldn’t allow me to retreat.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2 ... be3454774d

Third Story: ... But on Sunday, Mr. Phillips clarified that it was he who had approached the crowd and that he had intervened because racial tensions — primarily between the white students and the black men — were “coming to a boiling point.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/20/us/n ... tVPuy-tIEQ

Every story he makes himself out to be the moral high ground. Make of it what you will or maybe compile all the contradictory reports.



After watching as mich of a full video as possible, I really think this was just a cavalcade of dumbassery on everyone's side.

For what its worth, I don't think Phillips was actually trying to get into any sort of actual confrontation with that specific kid but rather make a statement of some sort by marching through the crowd, that specific kid took it upon himself to be the dumbass stalward wall against what he (wrongly) assumed was someone there to protest their march, the black Israelites were fucking dicks who should have been ignored.

Meanwhile, the idiotic chaperones decided "Hey, let's escalate the damn situation by riling our students up, having them do a bog ole chant at everyone and everything, not do anything to calm the situation, and let one of our students do a mock hakka half naked in public, for reasons."

The kid was a dumbass for assuming too much, Phillips was a dumbass for trying to disperse a situation he was not involved in, the parents are dumbasses for doing jackall to de-escalate the situation and actually encouraged an escalation, and the Black Israelite suck.

As I figured earlier, everyone was looking for a confrontation, and lo-and-behold they got one.



100% agree. It is important to teach kids to not act dumb of which this is a prime example.

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Postby Camelone » Mon Jan 21, 2019 9:51 pm

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After watching as mich of a full video as possible, I really think this was just a cavalcade of dumbassery on everyone's side.

For what its worth, I don't think Phillips was actually trying to get into any sort of actual confrontation with that specific kid but rather make a statement of some sort by marching through the crowd, that specific kid took it upon himself to be the dumbass stalward wall against what he (wrongly) assumed was someone there to protest their march, the black Israelites were fucking dicks who should have been ignored.

Meanwhile, the idiotic chaperones decided "Hey, let's escalate the damn situation by riling our students up, having them do a bog ole chant at everyone and everything, not do anything to calm the situation, and let one of our students do a mock hakka half naked in public, for reasons."

The kid was a dumbass for assuming too much, Phillips was a dumbass for trying to disperse a situation he was not involved in, the parents are dumbasses for doing jackall to de-escalate the situation and actually encouraged an escalation, and the Black Israelite suck.

As I figured earlier, everyone was looking for a confrontation, and lo-and-behold they got one.



100% agree. It is important to teach kids to not act dumb of which this is a prime example.

To be honest I'm more pissed about the mob mentality against the kids and the fact they are being held to a higher standard than the adults because of their politics. This becoming national news also makes my blood boil because this for a fact is so freakin stupid and shows the irresponsibility of media to just start the attack immediately. To be honest the blame probably lies more with social media than the traditional media but the traditional media took it up and ran with it without checking it thoroughly enough.

Minzerland II wrote:In any case, here is another interesting development. It is hard to tell, but very possible that it is them.

I went through and looked at the accuser's Twitter account she is a big time liberal who was in DC for the Women's March. That in of itself is perfectly fine, nothing wrong there, what does raise a red flag is that she says that the kids on the bench started yelling political slogans at her but states that she and her friend said nothing to them. Okay the reason that is a red flag to me is that
A. She is overtly political and her Twitter history shows that she holds contempt for those who would be considered mainstream right
B. She was wearing no particular political paraphernalia in the video while the boys are wearing Trump hats
C. Teenage boys resort to shouting "MAGA" instead of catcalling?

What probably happened is she remarked on their hats in some manner and that prompted the reaction. If it was normal catcalling I would probably believe her but yelling political slogans does not make much sense to me. The other situation could have been they started with catcalling, she remarked about their hats, fill in the rest. The reason I do not believe the other situation occurred is because that would have fit better with her narrative than what she provided.

This is on topic right mods? I was not entirely sure what was being bumped back onto track so if I need to delete this I certainly will. This has been the most active I have ever been on General so I'm not entirely sure.
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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Mon Jan 21, 2019 11:09 pm

Well now I’m seeing pictures of students from this school flashing white power signs and insulting black athletes playing at their school
I’m not gonna post links because a I haven’t bothered to look up a credible source and b somehow I think I could show these kids goose stepping around a shrine to Hitler and people would still be saying they are just fine upstanding kids
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Postby Byzconia » Mon Jan 21, 2019 11:13 pm

Seangoli wrote:
Blazelander wrote:First Story: "They were in the process of attacking these four black individuals," Phillip said. "I was there and I was witnessing all of this ... As this kept on going on and escalating, it just got to a point where you do something or you walk away, you know? You see something that is wrong and you're faced with that choice of right or wrong. "

https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/ ... 630256002/

Second Story: “It was getting ugly, and I was thinking: ‘I’ve got to find myself an exit out of this situation and finish my song at the Lincoln Memorial,’ ” Phillips recalled. “I started going that way, and that guy in the hat stood in my way, and we were at an impasse. He just blocked my way and wouldn’t allow me to retreat.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2 ... be3454774d

Third Story: ... But on Sunday, Mr. Phillips clarified that it was he who had approached the crowd and that he had intervened because racial tensions — primarily between the white students and the black men — were “coming to a boiling point.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/20/us/n ... tVPuy-tIEQ

Every story he makes himself out to be the moral high ground. Make of it what you will or maybe compile all the contradictory reports.



After watching as mich of a full video as possible, I really think this was just a cavalcade of dumbassery on everyone's side.

For what its worth, I don't think Phillips was actually trying to get into any sort of actual confrontation with that specific kid but rather make a statement of some sort by marching through the crowd, that specific kid took it upon himself to be the dumbass stalward wall against what he (wrongly) assumed was someone there to protest their march, the black Israelites were fucking dicks who should have been ignored.

Meanwhile, the idiotic chaperones decided "Hey, let's escalate the damn situation by riling our students up, having them do a bog ole chant at everyone and everything, not do anything to calm the situation, and let one of our students do a mock hakka half naked in public, for reasons."

The kid was a dumbass for assuming too much, Phillips was a dumbass for trying to disperse a situation he was not involved in, the parents are dumbasses for doing jackall to de-escalate the situation and actually encouraged an escalation, and the Black Israelite suck.

As I figured earlier, everyone was looking for a confrontation, and lo-and-behold they got one.


Agree with everything but the bolded part. If Phillips truly believed people were being attacked (as he claims in the first story), then he's completely justified in getting involved. Now, you can definitely argue whether he's being completely truthful or not, but we shouldn't be encouraging the Bystander Effect.
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Postby Camelone » Mon Jan 21, 2019 11:21 pm

Internationalist Bastard wrote:Well now I’m seeing pictures of students from this school flashing white power signs and insulting black athletes playing at their school
I’m not gonna post links because a I haven’t bothered to look up a credible source and b somehow I think I could show these kids goose stepping around a shrine to Hitler and people would still be saying they are just fine upstanding kids

Okay where is the white power sign flashing you are talking about and are you talking about the picture of them at school basketball game heckling an opposing player?

The reason I am inquiring about the white power signs is because I have yet to hear about that till now. Was it also a real sign and not the okay sign?
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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Mon Jan 21, 2019 11:32 pm

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Internationalist Bastard wrote:Well now I’m seeing pictures of students from this school flashing white power signs and insulting black athletes playing at their school
I’m not gonna post links because a I haven’t bothered to look up a credible source and b somehow I think I could show these kids goose stepping around a shrine to Hitler and people would still be saying they are just fine upstanding kids

Okay where is the white power sign flashing you are talking about and are you talking about the picture of them at school basketball game heckling an opposing player?

The reason I am inquiring about the white power signs is because I have yet to hear about that till now. Was it also a real sign and not the okay sign?

It was the basketball picture where there was also two guys wearing black face while a third flashed the white pride sign
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Camelone wrote:
Internationalist Bastard wrote:Well now I’m seeing pictures of students from this school flashing white power signs and insulting black athletes playing at their school
I’m not gonna post links because a I haven’t bothered to look up a credible source and b somehow I think I could show these kids goose stepping around a shrine to Hitler and people would still be saying they are just fine upstanding kids

Okay where is the white power sign flashing you are talking about and are you talking about the picture of them at school basketball game heckling an opposing player?

The reason I am inquiring about the white power signs is because I have yet to hear about that till now. Was it also a real sign and not the okay sign?


What's stupid about the OK symbol is that it was originally made up meme, taken seriously by some media, peoplenused it jokingly... and then it was actually coopted by white nationalist movements ironically.

So it has, in a round about fashion, turned into a symbol used by white nationalists. It just didn't start as one.

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Postby Camelone » Mon Jan 21, 2019 11:57 pm

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Camelone wrote:Okay where is the white power sign flashing you are talking about and are you talking about the picture of them at school basketball game heckling an opposing player?

The reason I am inquiring about the white power signs is because I have yet to hear about that till now. Was it also a real sign and not the okay sign?

It was the basketball picture where there was also two guys wearing black face while a third flashed the white pride sign

I’ll defer to Minzerland II about the blackface.
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This is a theme isn’t it? Called ‘blackout’ (2011). It is also noteworthy that they did a ‘whiteout’ in 2015, where people can be seen in full white body paint. Ignore that this is Mike Cernovich.

But white pride sign as in the okay sign? Are people actually taking that meme seriously?

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Camelone wrote:Okay where is the white power sign flashing you are talking about and are you talking about the picture of them at school basketball game heckling an opposing player?

The reason I am inquiring about the white power signs is because I have yet to hear about that till now. Was it also a real sign and not the okay sign?


What's stupid about the OK symbol is that it was originally made up meme, taken seriously by some media, peoplenused it jokingly... and then it was actually coopted by white nationalist movements ironically.

So it has, in a round about fashion, turned into a symbol used by white nationalists. It just didn't start as one.

You can’t be serious that someone actually unironically adopted that meme seriously. That’s actually freakin hilarious if some random WN actually uses it like that.
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Camelone wrote:
Internationalist Bastard wrote:It was the basketball picture where there was also two guys wearing black face while a third flashed the white pride sign

I’ll defer to Minzerland II about the blackface.
Minzerland II wrote:This is a theme isn’t it? Called ‘blackout’ (2011). It is also noteworthy that they did a ‘whiteout’ in 2015, where people can be seen in full white body paint. Ignore that this is Mike Cernovich.

But white pride sign as in the okay sign? Are people actually taking that meme seriously?

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What's stupid about the OK symbol is that it was originally made up meme, taken seriously by some media, peoplenused it jokingly... and then it was actually coopted by white nationalist movements ironically.

So it has, in a round about fashion, turned into a symbol used by white nationalists. It just didn't start as one.

You can’t be serious that someone actually unironically adopted that meme seriously. That’s actually freakin hilarious if some random WN actually uses it like that.


Pretty much. It is facepalm levels of cringe to see WNs unironically use a symbol that started as a meme mocking media tendencies, thus vindicating said media nonsense post-hoc.

The world we live in where memes become real.

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Internationalist Bastard wrote:Well now I’m seeing pictures of students from this school flashing white power signs and insulting black athletes playing at their school
I’m not gonna post links because a I haven’t bothered to look up a credible source and b somehow I think I could show these kids goose stepping around a shrine to Hitler and people would still be saying they are just fine upstanding kids


The school has been plagued with racial problems. I mean, you saw the teachers and the students and you'll see the disturbing (if we want to call it like that considering the school is the closest thing to a "white-only" school) amounts of Caucasians as both teachers and students. There are minorities, but racial problem affected them as well.
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About as helpfully as always.


Ironically enough, he actually IS right in his statement for once.

These kids were crucified before the whole picture was unveiled, like we've somehow gone back in time to the Salem witch trials.

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About as helpfully as always.


Ironically enough, he actually IS right in his statement for once.

These kids were crucified before the whole picture was unveiled, like we've somehow gone back in time to the Salem witch trials.


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Seangoli wrote:

After watching as mich of a full video as possible, I really think this was just a cavalcade of dumbassery on everyone's side.

For what its worth, I don't think Phillips was actually trying to get into any sort of actual confrontation with that specific kid but rather make a statement of some sort by marching through the crowd, that specific kid took it upon himself to be the dumbass stalward wall against what he (wrongly) assumed was someone there to protest their march, the black Israelites were fucking dicks who should have been ignored.

Meanwhile, the idiotic chaperones decided "Hey, let's escalate the damn situation by riling our students up, having them do a bog ole chant at everyone and everything, not do anything to calm the situation, and let one of our students do a mock hakka half naked in public, for reasons."

The kid was a dumbass for assuming too much, Phillips was a dumbass for trying to disperse a situation he was not involved in, the parents are dumbasses for doing jackall to de-escalate the situation and actually encouraged an escalation, and the Black Israelite suck.

As I figured earlier, everyone was looking for a confrontation, and lo-and-behold they got one.


TIL standing up to MAGAheads makes you a dumbass.


Breaking news, standing still wearing a MAGA hat and smirking at a man banging a drum literally three inches from your face as if nobody else on Earth would have such a reaction at this specific situation (seriously, I smile all the time at awkward or uncomfortable situations) makes you literally Hitler.

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Par Chic wrote:
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Breaking news, standing still wearing a MAGA hat and smirking at a man banging a drum literally three inches from your face as if nobody else on Earth would have such a reaction at this specific situation (seriously, I smile all the time at awkward or uncomfortable situations) makes you literally Hitler.

AMERICA, YAY!


This just in: wearing a MAGA hat suddenly means you are incapable of being racist!


Standing in the vicinity of a Native American man makes you racist?

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Postby Western Vale Confederacy » Tue Jan 22, 2019 1:17 am

Par Chic wrote:
Western Vale Confederacy wrote:
Standing in the vicinity of a Native American man makes you racist?


Surrounding him in an intimidating manner and chanting racist taunts is.


Did you even watch the whole video?

'Cause I don't think you did.

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Postby Woodfiredpizzas » Tue Jan 22, 2019 1:20 am

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