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Postby San Lumen » Thu Mar 21, 2019 10:02 am

Hakons wrote:It's good to have restrictions on recalls, especially requiring bipartisan support. Recalls shouldn't be a tool to redo an election that one lost, like in Wisconisn or perhaps soon to be Colorado.

I dont think its going anywhere as ive heard nothing further about it.

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Postby San Lumen » Tue Mar 26, 2019 8:19 am

Shrillland wrote:The weirder provisions actually make sense if you live here. Requiring 25 counties means that Chicagoland and Kaneland(seven counties with 75% of the population) can't throw someone out surely out of pique, whilst the affidavit requirement is to show that the Governor has screwed up so much that both parties have sizeable numbers who want them out...which has only happened once in the last 20 years, and I'm sure you all know what I speak of.

That makes sense

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Postby Shrillland » Tue Mar 26, 2019 5:56 pm

Well, GOP Holds Greenville-Wade Hampton(SC-6) State Senate, but it was fairly close considering. The Cali primaries aren't closing for a couple more hours.
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Postby Valrifell » Tue Mar 26, 2019 6:17 pm

San Lumen wrote:
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I think the current presidential administration is proof that just waiting for an indictment isn't always an option. Or, as we saw in California, a crisis that the current administration isn't capable of handling could come. I'm not a fan of recall votes myself, but I do understand why others want them.


With the way many recall laws are written there is no much room for abuse as often the parameters are vague. It should simply be outlawed.


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Postby San Lumen » Tue Mar 26, 2019 8:27 pm

Shrillland wrote:Well, GOP Holds Greenville-Wade Hampton(SC-6) State Senate, but it was fairly close considering. The Cali primaries aren't closing for a couple more hours.


It was a big over-performance for a Democrat in Greenville County. We will likely not know the result of the california by elections for several days. Its very likely no one gets 50 percent therefore a runoff is probable. Given the partisan lean of these districts both candidates being of the same party is likely especially in the Long Beach district

Next Tuesday's episode ofAmerica: The Series by election special will be very exciting.

The marquee election is the 23rd party congress in Chicago also known as the mayoral election. Lori Lightfoot has been leading every poll by a wide margin. Chicago will very likely bring in the Light next Tuesday. There will be many other mayoral and municipal elections across Illinois and Missouri incluidng the state capitals of Springfield and Jefferson City but none as interesting or high profile as Chicago.

There is also the Wisconsin Supreme Court election. The longtime liberal incumbent Shirley Abrahamson retired. The election is non partisan but the de facto Demcrat Lisa Neubauer is probably a slight favorite as the other candidate de facto republican Brian Keith Hagedorn has generated much controversy with his extreme conservative views. A win by Neubauer would mean the court is likely to flip in 2020 as next years election will be on the same day as the Democratic Presidental primary

Madison, Wisconsin will also be holding its mayoral election. Incumbent Paul Soglin will likely win another term

Pennsylvania SD-37 will have a special election after the incumbent Guy Reschenthaler was elected to Congress. The district is based in trending blue Pittsburgh suburbs. Democrat Pam Iovino is probably the slight favorite here. This would be a dem gain should she win

Colorado Springs and Las Vegas will be holding mayoral elections. If no candidate gets 50 percent it goes to runoff. Vegas mayor Carolyn Goodmanwill likely win outright as she only faces token opposition.


Maine HD52 will hold a special after the incumbent resigned. Its a blue district based around the city of Bath. The democrat should win here.

Kansas City, Missouri will also hold a mayoral and city council primary. The top two candidates for mayor and each council district will go on to the general election
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Postby San Lumen » Wed Mar 27, 2019 6:35 am

Valrifell wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
With the way many recall laws are written there is no much room for abuse as often the parameters are vague. It should simply be outlawed.


Boo stop hating on democracy and freedom.

How is it hating on democracy and freedom to be against recalls?

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Postby Shrillland » Sat Mar 30, 2019 4:56 pm

Well, we now officially have a Plebiscite Plaza for 2019 with...one initiative for November. It'll be in the OP and here.

Kansas: Kansas will be voting on a Constitutional Amendment that would end the practice of adjusting the census to exclude nonresident military personnel and students and adding resident military personnel and students who claim permanent residency. Kansas is the only state that still does this when apportioning legislators, so it'll probably pass.
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Postby San Lumen » Sat Mar 30, 2019 5:43 pm

Shrillland wrote:Well, we now officially have a Plebiscite Plaza for 2019 with...one initiative for November. It'll be in the OP and here.

Kansas: Kansas will be voting on a Constitutional Amendment that would end the practice of adjusting the census to exclude nonresident military personnel and students and adding resident military personnel and students who claim permanent residency. Kansas is the only state that still does this when apportioning legislators, so it'll probably pass.

I’m surprised any state still did something like that. Sadly New York will probably not have any referendums this year

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Postby Shrillland » Sat Mar 30, 2019 5:47 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Shrillland wrote:Well, we now officially have a Plebiscite Plaza for 2019 with...one initiative for November. It'll be in the OP and here.

Kansas: Kansas will be voting on a Constitutional Amendment that would end the practice of adjusting the census to exclude nonresident military personnel and students and adding resident military personnel and students who claim permanent residency. Kansas is the only state that still does this when apportioning legislators, so it'll probably pass.

I’m surprised any state still did something like that. Sadly New York will probably not have any referendums this year


No, but Ohio could have a REALLLY important one if the petition clears. It would decide whether or not to hand Ohio's electoral votes to the winner of the national popular vote without waiting around for the compact to go into effect.
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Postby Shrillland » Sat Mar 30, 2019 8:16 pm

Eternal Lotharia wrote:Oh wait, I forgot this exists.


That's OK, it's pretty quiet right now, just some mayoral and state races until the end of April.
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Postby San Lumen » Sat Mar 30, 2019 8:17 pm

Eternal Lotharia wrote:Oh wait, I forgot this exists.

If your cities elections are next year it doesn’t really fit in this thread

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Postby San Lumen » Sat Mar 30, 2019 8:31 pm

Shrillland wrote:
Eternal Lotharia wrote:Oh wait, I forgot this exists.


That's OK, it's pretty quiet right now, just some mayoral and state races until the end of April.

Three really big elections on Tuesday. Chicago mayoral election, Wisconsin Supreme Court and a by election for the Pennsylvania SD-37 in the Pittsburgh suburbs

Also Republicans lost a seat in a by election for Louisiana HD-62 to an independent. I dont know much about his views but the district is suburbs of Baton Rouge.
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Postby Shrillland » Tue Apr 02, 2019 7:07 pm

Now for tonight's returns.

Starting in my neck of the woods, with over 85% of the vote in, Chicago Police Board President Lori Lightfoot has been elected the first black female and the first LGBT mayor of Chicago, and it's the 23rd consecutive election where a Democrat has won. So far, that's about it, but there's no change in the Maine byelection, a Democrat has taken the seat, I'll check again in a while.
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Postby Loben » Tue Apr 02, 2019 8:09 pm

A democrat winning in chicago?

color me suprised.

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Postby San Lumen » Tue Apr 02, 2019 9:35 pm

And we have our first red to blue flip in the Pittsburgh suburbs the Democrat won the by election for Pennsylvania SD-37. They will need to gain three seats next year to flip the State Senate

In a upset Satya Rhodes-Conway defeated incumbent Madison, Wisconsin mayor Paul Soglin. She will be the city's second female mayor and the first openly gay mayor of the city.

In the Wisconsin Supreme Court election de facto Republican Brian Hagedorn is is apparent winner in a gain for Republicans simply because Milwaukee County couldn't be bothered to turn out. He holds extreme views such as homosexuality is a choice and LGBT people should not be allowed to marry or adopt children and could lead to zoophilia being legalized. He even suggested urban counties votes ought to count less than rural one. Judges in my view should be elected. They should be appointed by the Governor and I am not saying that because Democrats lost. Judges should not be elected on principle.

In the Kansas City Mayoral primary Jolie Justus and Quinton Lucas will advance to the general election in June

Colorado Springs mayor John Suthers won 73 percent of the vote securing another term.

Las Vegas mayor Carolyn Goodman easily won another term against token opposition.

The next major by election will be April 16th in CT HD-19 to replace the incumbent who was elected to the state senate. The district contains suburbs of Hartford and will likely be competitive
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Postby Shrillland » Tue Apr 02, 2019 10:32 pm

I will admit though, next week's vote in Georgia's HD-28(Toccoa), while no party change will happen, does have an interesting backstory to it, two previous votes deemed inconclusive by the courts. The first was due to ballot errors while the second was because a candidate finished up leading by two...TWO....votes. So they're running it a third time next week.
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Postby San Lumen » Wed Apr 03, 2019 6:51 am

Shrillland wrote:I will admit though, next week's vote in Georgia's HD-28(Toccoa), while no party change will happen, does have an interesting backstory to it, two previous votes deemed inconclusive by the courts. The first was due to ballot errors while the second was because a candidate finished up leading by two...TWO....votes. So they're running it a third time next week.


that's crazy

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Postby Hakons » Wed Apr 03, 2019 10:03 am

Shrillland wrote:
San Lumen wrote:I’m surprised any state still did something like that. Sadly New York will probably not have any referendums this year


No, but Ohio could have a REALLLY important one if the petition clears. It would decide whether or not to hand Ohio's electoral votes to the winner of the national popular vote without waiting around for the compact to go into effect.


That would be horribly undemocratic. Electors vote how their state votes. I understand, say, wanting to have electors vote proportionally to the vote in the state, but having electors vote on how OTHER states vote is an undemocratic farse and maybe even unconstitutional.
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Postby Shrillland » Wed Apr 03, 2019 10:05 am

Hakons wrote:
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No, but Ohio could have a REALLLY important one if the petition clears. It would decide whether or not to hand Ohio's electoral votes to the winner of the national popular vote without waiting around for the compact to go into effect.


That would be horribly undemocratic. Electors vote how their state votes. I understand, say, wanting to have electors vote proportionally to the vote in the state, but having electors vote on how OTHER states vote is an undemocratic farse and maybe even unconstitutional.


It is not unconstitutional. The states decide how the electors vote, and if they decide to set it to the popular vote, then that's their prerogative.
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Postby San Lumen » Wed Apr 03, 2019 1:19 pm

Hakons wrote:
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No, but Ohio could have a REALLLY important one if the petition clears. It would decide whether or not to hand Ohio's electoral votes to the winner of the national popular vote without waiting around for the compact to go into effect.


That would be horribly undemocratic. Electors vote how their state votes. I understand, say, wanting to have electors vote proportionally to the vote in the state, but having electors vote on how OTHER states vote is an undemocratic farse and maybe even unconstitutional.

There is nothing unconstitutional about it. States decide how their electoral college votes are allocated.

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Postby San Lumen » Sun Apr 07, 2019 9:51 am

https://www.greeleytribune.com/news/col ... ll-effort/

The Colorado Secretary of State approved the recall petitions for state Senator Rochelle Galindo. The new GOP party chairman says he plans to use them frequently which comes off as nothing more than a sore loser tactic. They can’t win at general elections and therefore want to exploit the system. Recalls should be outlawed in my view
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Postby Outer Sparta » Tue Apr 09, 2019 8:35 am

Hakons wrote:
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No, but Ohio could have a REALLLY important one if the petition clears. It would decide whether or not to hand Ohio's electoral votes to the winner of the national popular vote without waiting around for the compact to go into effect.


That would be horribly undemocratic. Electors vote how their state votes. I understand, say, wanting to have electors vote proportionally to the vote in the state, but having electors vote on how OTHER states vote is an undemocratic farse and maybe even unconstitutional.

States can allocate electoral votes however they want. Joining a pact to allocate electoral votes to the winner of the populate vote is constitutional. Even if they aren't gonna wait for the compact, they still are allocating electoral votes however they please.
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Postby San Lumen » Tue Apr 09, 2019 4:07 pm

Outer Sparta wrote:
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That would be horribly undemocratic. Electors vote how their state votes. I understand, say, wanting to have electors vote proportionally to the vote in the state, but having electors vote on how OTHER states vote is an undemocratic farse and maybe even unconstitutional.

States can allocate electoral votes however they want. Joining a pact to allocate electoral votes to the winner of the populate vote is constitutional. Even if they aren't gonna wait for the compact, they still are allocating electoral votes however they please.

https://twitter.com/darreldrowland/stat ... 6341341184

The referendum has been dropped from the 2019 ballot. Its proponents cited "time constraints and high number of signatures needed to place a constitutional amendment on the ballot."

There are no by elections this week but next week there is a by election in CT HD-19 in the suburbs of Hartford. The election was facilitated due to the incumbents election to the State Senate in February. It should be a hold given the majority of the district is in the very blue city of West Hartford but it could be competitive if the other town Avon which leans red has higher turnout. The district also contains part of the town of Farmington but its too small a part of the district to be much of a factor
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Postby Outer Sparta » Tue Apr 09, 2019 5:41 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Outer Sparta wrote:States can allocate electoral votes however they want. Joining a pact to allocate electoral votes to the winner of the populate vote is constitutional. Even if they aren't gonna wait for the compact, they still are allocating electoral votes however they please.

https://twitter.com/darreldrowland/stat ... 6341341184

The referendum has been dropped from the 2019 ballot. Its proponents cited "time constraints and high number of signatures needed to place a constitutional amendment on the ballot."

There are no by elections this week but next week there is a by election in CT HD-19 in the suburbs of Hartford. The election was facilitated due to the incumbents election to the State Senate in February. It should be a hold given the majority of the district is in the very blue city of West Hartford but it could be competitive if the other town Avon which leans red has higher turnout. The district also contains part of the town of Farmington but its too small a part of the district to be much of a factor

The CT race would be lean-likely blue.
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Postby San Lumen » Tue Apr 09, 2019 5:42 pm

Outer Sparta wrote:
San Lumen wrote:https://twitter.com/darreldrowland/stat ... 6341341184

The referendum has been dropped from the 2019 ballot. Its proponents cited "time constraints and high number of signatures needed to place a constitutional amendment on the ballot."

There are no by elections this week but next week there is a by election in CT HD-19 in the suburbs of Hartford. The election was facilitated due to the incumbents election to the State Senate in February. It should be a hold given the majority of the district is in the very blue city of West Hartford but it could be competitive if the other town Avon which leans red has higher turnout. The district also contains part of the town of Farmington but its too small a part of the district to be much of a factor

The CT race would be lean-likely blue.

Probably but Connecticut is weird

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