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European People's Party (EPP)
9
7%
Socialists and Democrats (S&D)
23
18%
Conservatives and Reformists (ECR)
14
11%
Europe of Nations and Freedom (ENF)
20
16%
Alliance of Liberals and Democrats (ALDE)
17
13%
Greens-European Free Alliance (Greens-EFA)
10
8%
Europe of Freedom and Direct Democracy (EFDD)
12
9%
European United Left-Nordic Green Left (EUL-NGL)
24
19%
 
Total votes : 129

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Phoenicaea
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Postby Phoenicaea » Wed May 29, 2019 2:32 am

^ either the parties stay or they migrate in an other jar, so they formally different parties, it is not meaningful. if it is the similar pool of people, same families and persons.

if either 'centrist' or 'center-right' have a majority, in eu; in case of so called center-right, the.. 'inefficiency' would be so heavy that eu would be devastated.

the center-right can t rule an union, its purpose it to reign devastating it. they have to pollute the forming union, because so they gain rule in each of the affiliated countries.

even if they don t hold majority (people parties - nationalists), a substantial union will stay if in eu parliament conscious representatives will conceive a 'government form'.
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Postby The Xenopolis Confederation » Wed May 29, 2019 2:42 am

Phoenicaea wrote:^ either the parties stay or they migrate in an other jar, so they formally different parties, it is not meaningful. if it is the similar pool of people, same families and persons.

if either 'centrist' or 'center-right' have a majority, in eu; in case of so called center-right, the.. 'inefficiency' would be so heavy that eu would be devastated.

the center-right can t rule an union, its purpose it to reign devastating it. they have to pollute the forming union, because so they gain rule in each of the affiliated countries.

even if they don t hold majority (people parties - nationalists), a substantial union will stay if in eu parliament conscious representatives will conceive a 'government form'.

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Postby Phoenicaea » Wed May 29, 2019 2:52 am

^ @Xenopolies, ehm, no, i was praising them. i said 'centrist' coalition (protestant people parties, socialists, liberals, ecologists) doesn t guarantee union alone.

it is late for an union to be formed, discussion was good in '90s. i say eu can t get along, unless said parties have got representatives capable to oust the european council, get rid of.
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Postby Petrolheadia » Wed May 29, 2019 9:56 am

With how Polish election law works, some poor sod accidentally voted for Wiosna.

He (or she?) drew a big anarchy sign on the ballot and an own box to vote for anarchy and peace, but as the law stipulates that a vote is valid when two lines form an X inside one of the printed checkboxes, two lines of the A intersecting in a checkbox made the anarchist vote for Michał Jan Syska, #5 on Wiosna's list.
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Postby Ifreann » Wed May 29, 2019 11:40 am

Petrolheadia wrote:With how Polish election law works, some poor sod accidentally voted for Wiosna.

He (or she?) drew a big anarchy sign on the ballot and an own box to vote for anarchy and peace, but as the law stipulates that a vote is valid when two lines form an X inside one of the printed checkboxes, two lines of the A intersecting in a checkbox made the anarchist vote for Michał Jan Syska, #5 on Wiosna's list.

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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Wed May 29, 2019 2:07 pm

Kustonia wrote:
Votumnia wrote:Too much alt-right/far-right/fascist/neonazi crap in these elections. This is not going to end well.


There are some fascist and neo-Nazi parties running, but there are few of them. I don't know exactly how that influences the entire result of an election, but so far, not by much.

Parties that support Nazism should be purged from the ballot.
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Postby Nakena » Wed May 29, 2019 4:00 pm

LiberNovusAmericae wrote:
Kustonia wrote:
There are some fascist and neo-Nazi parties running, but there are few of them. I don't know exactly how that influences the entire result of an election, but so far, not by much.

Parties that support Nazism should be purged from the ballot.


Golden Dawn won two seats in European Parliament.

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Wed May 29, 2019 4:03 pm

Not sure how true it is but I heard a Neo-Nazi party won 12% of the vote in Slovakia.
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Postby Nakena » Wed May 29, 2019 4:04 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:Not sure how true it is but I heard a Neo-Nazi party won 12% of the vote in Slovakia.


Its true.

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Wed May 29, 2019 4:05 pm

Nakena wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:Not sure how true it is but I heard a Neo-Nazi party won 12% of the vote in Slovakia.


Its true.


That's a hell of an increase, damn.
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Postby Baltenstein » Wed May 29, 2019 4:12 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:


That's a hell of an increase, damn.


Just Visegrad things.
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Postby Nakena » Wed May 29, 2019 4:17 pm

Baltenstein wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
That's a hell of an increase, damn.


Just Visegrad things.


I find Visegrads are unfairly looked down upon within the EU. For many years the Visegard nations stood silently within the EU, and now that they raise their voice, concerns and opinions of their own they are condemned for it. Up to some people even want to expell them.

Why? Because they do not fit with the liberal mainstream of the political and media establishment in most west european countries. Yet their concerns are shared by many in the west too, who just dont happen to be among the establishments or are shunned by it.
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Postby Baltenstein » Wed May 29, 2019 4:27 pm

Nakena wrote:
Baltenstein wrote:
Just Visegrad things.


I find Visegrads are unfairly looked down upon within the EU. For many years the Visegard nations stood silently within the EU, and now that they raise their voice, concerns and opinions of their own they are condemned for it. Up to some people even want to expell them.

Why? Because they do not fit with the liberal mainstream of the political and media establishment in most west european countries. Yet their concerns are shared by many in the west too, who just dont happen to be among the establishments or are shunned by it.


It's hardly a secret that the V4 have an absurd amount of whiny ultranat hysteria. "Raising their voice and concerns" is that what you call Neo-Nazi rallies?

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Seriously these guys look like one of those silly comic series where the bad guys are some over-the-top dystopian Nazi pastiche with a different label slapped on it.
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O'er the hills and o'er the main.
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King George commands and we obey.
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Postby Nakena » Wed May 29, 2019 4:43 pm

Baltenstein wrote:It's hardly a secret that the V4 have an absurd amount of whiny ultranat hysteria. "Raising their voice and concerns" is that what you call Neo-Nazi rallies?


No. Thats LARPing.

I mean some of the governments. Like the Czech Republic or Slovakian ones.

Baltenstein wrote:Seriously these guys look like one of those silly comic series where the bad guys are some over-the-top dystopian Nazi pastiche with a different label slapped on it.


I wasnt talking about them, but the Visegard states in general and their bad rep.
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Postby San Lumen » Wed May 29, 2019 8:59 pm

while its upsetting to hear that the far right gained seats it is encouraging that the Greens and centrist liberals gained seat. Green parties especially is very encouraging. I wish they gained more.

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Postby Nakena » Thu May 30, 2019 7:09 am

San Lumen wrote:while its upsetting to hear that the far right gained seats it is encouraging that the Greens and centrist liberals gained seat. Green parties especially is very encouraging. I wish they gained more.


German greens have replaced their SocDems

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Postby Ifreann » Thu May 30, 2019 9:12 am

A full recount in Ireland South will begin on Monday and is expected to take up to a month.
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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Thu May 30, 2019 9:34 am

Ifreann wrote:A full recount in Ireland South will begin on Monday and is expected to take up to a month.


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