Leftist Militias: Should Liberals Be Pro-Second Amendment?

[Ors Might]

Shitty less for truthfulness and more for god awful optics, along with a hint of dickishness.

No, it is most definitely true. You don’t get to use the victims as an excuse to take away my rights.

So I’ll say it again, my rights trump your dead. Always.

Dude, I was saying that your statement was absolutely correct, just as correct as it is useless as an argument. You understand that the point of debate is to convice people, typically those on the fence, yeah?

[Torrocca]

No, it is most definitely true. You don’t get to use the victims as an excuse to take away my rights.

So I’ll say it again, my rights trump your dead. Always.

Dude, I was saying that your statement was absolutely correct, just as correct as it is useless as an argument. You understand that the point of debate is to convice people, typically those on the fence, yeah?

You're saying that telling people - who are entirely unsure about something - that dead children mean less than that something existing doesn't actually win those people over?!

Pfft, what a bunch of hippie liberal commie malarkey.

[Western Vale Confederacy]

Maybe if you’re a dirty liberal.
Good thing we aren’t.

This post brought to you by Revolutionary Gang

I could probably count everybody willing to actually sacrifice their lives for the Revolution on two hands, 'cause believe it or not, people tend to not like dying.

[Torrocca]

This post brought to you by Revolutionary Gang

I could probably count everybody willing to actually sacrifice their lives for the Revolution on two hands, 'cause believe it or not, people tend to not like dying.

That's why you follow the patented Patton tactic of making the sunuvabitch counter-revolutionary sacrifice their life for it instead.

[Frievolk]

I could probably count everybody willing to actually sacrifice their lives for the Revolution on two hands, 'cause believe it or not, people tend to not like dying.

That's why you follow the patented Patton tactic of making the sunuvabitch counter-revolutionary sacrifice their life for it instead.

Sure, but nine times out of ten, the Counter-Revolutionaries are also following that very tactic. Believe it or not, they want "Death for my ideals" about as much as the Revolutionaries do

[Torrocca]

That's why you follow the patented Patton tactic of making the sunuvabitch counter-revolutionary sacrifice their life for it instead.

Sure, but nine times out of ten, the Counter-Revolutionaries are also following that very tactic. Believe it or not, they want "Death for my ideals" about as much as the Revolutionaries do

That's why you break out the good ol' Sun Tzu and bamboozle them every step of the way :3

[Ardoki]

I could probably count everybody willing to actually sacrifice their lives for the Revolution on two hands, 'cause believe it or not, people tend to not like dying.

That's why you follow the patented Patton tactic of making the sunuvabitch counter-revolutionary sacrifice their life for it instead.

The state has the police and military, along with all their weapons, resources, and organisational and communications capabilities.

The only people risking their lives would be the revolutionaries, the risk to security personnel is minute.

[Ors Might]

Dude, I was saying that your statement was absolutely correct, just as correct as it is useless as an argument. You understand that the point of debate is to convice people, typically those on the fence, yeah?

You're saying that telling people - who are entirely unsure about something - that dead children mean less than that something existing doesn't actually win those people over?!

Pfft, what a bunch of hippie liberal commie malarkey.

Sadly, organic flesh bags tend to care about their undeveloped organic flesh bags

[Torrocca]

That's why you follow the patented Patton tactic of making the sunuvabitch counter-revolutionary sacrifice their life for it instead.

The state has the police and military, along with all their weapons, resources, and organisational and communications capabilities.

The only people risking their lives would be the revolutionaries, the risk to security personnel is minute.

Militaries and police forces/portions of both have been revolutionaries aplenty as well. If shit's hitting the fan, a lot of them are gonna support their people. :3

You're saying that telling people - who are entirely unsure about something - that dead children mean less than that something existing doesn't actually win those people over?!

Pfft, what a bunch of hippie liberal commie malarkey.

Sadly, organic flesh bags tend to care about their undeveloped organic flesh bags

*Binary-code gasp* This angers the Omnissiah >:c

[Ors Might]

The state has the police and military, along with all their weapons, resources, and organisational and communications capabilities.

The only people risking their lives would be the revolutionaries, the risk to security personnel is minute.

Militaries and police forces/portions of both have been revolutionaries aplenty as well. If shit's hitting the fan, a lot of them are gonna support their people. :3

Sadly, organic flesh bags tend to care about their undeveloped organic flesh bags

*Binary-code gasp* This angers the Omnissiah >:c

What’s he gonna do, get his shit wrecked by Necrons?

[Torrocca]

Militaries and police forces/portions of both have been revolutionaries aplenty as well. If shit's hitting the fan, a lot of them are gonna support their people. :3



*Binary-code gasp* This angers the Omnissiah >:c

What’s he gonna do, get his shit wrecked by Necrons?

Nah, it's gonna make the AdMech break out into another civil war from Mars to put a stop to these silly organic "emotions" that Cherno so clearly despises in favor of his guns

[Ors Might]

What’s he gonna do, get his shit wrecked by Necrons?

Nah, it's gonna make the AdMech break out into another civil war from Mars to put a stop to these silly organic "emotions" that Cherno so clearly despises in favor of his guns

NSG really is 40k..

[Torrocca]

Nah, it's gonna make the AdMech break out into another civil war from Mars to put a stop to these silly organic "emotions" that Cherno so clearly despises in favor of his guns

NSG really is 40k..

In the grim darkness of the far future, there is only debate.

[Ardoki]

The state has the police and military, along with all their weapons, resources, and organisational and communications capabilities.

The only people risking their lives would be the revolutionaries, the risk to security personnel is minute.

Militaries and police forces/portions of both have been revolutionaries aplenty as well. If shit's hitting the fan, a lot of them are gonna support their people. :3

Not in developed countries. Our living standard is too good for people to risk violence.

[Torrocca]

Militaries and police forces/portions of both have been revolutionaries aplenty as well. If shit's hitting the fan, a lot of them are gonna support their people. :3

Not in developed countries. Our living standard is too good for people to risk violence.

People will always risk violence if pushed enough.

[Thermodolia]

That's why you follow the patented Patton tactic of making the sunuvabitch counter-revolutionary sacrifice their life for it instead.

The state has the police and military, along with all their weapons, resources, and organisational and communications capabilities.

The only people risking their lives would be the revolutionaries, the risk to security personnel is minute.

This assumes that the military backs the current state of affairs.

[Len Hyet]

Militaries and police forces/portions of both have been revolutionaries aplenty as well. If shit's hitting the fan, a lot of them are gonna support their people. :3

Not in developed countries. Our living standard is too good for people to risk violence.

You're right, that's why countries like France would never have protests turn violent.

[Western Vale Confederacy]

Not in developed countries. Our living standard is too good for people to risk violence.

You're right, that's why countries like France would never have protests turn violent.

France launches revolutions at literally anything though, so it ain't the best of examples.

[Len Hyet]

You're right, that's why countries like France would never have protests turn violent.

France launches revolutions at literally anything though, so it ain't the best of examples.

You're right, Paris isn't a good example. How about... I don't know... the Paris of the Middle East, which underwent a 15 year civil war.

Or, shit I don't know, a place where there was free medical care, good jobs, and a high standard of living. That would never dissolve into bloody conflict.

[Ardoki]

Not in developed countries. Our living standard is too good for people to risk violence.

You're right, that's why countries like France would never have protests turn violent.

What is happening in France is not a good example. It is a nuisance and nothing more, the Yellow Vests are not trying to overthrow the French government.

If the French government wanted to, it could easily crush them. However, that would look bad and it isn't necessary.

[Aellex]

Sure, but nine times out of ten, the Counter-Revolutionaries are also following that very tactic. Believe it or not, they want "Death for my ideals" about as much as the Revolutionaries do

That's why you break out the good ol' Sun Tzu and bamboozle them every step of the way :3

You need discipline and training for that, and rabble lacks it.
Without people with both defecting to your side and organizing it, the force of the Statu Quo will always prevail because most people will remain there.

[Aellex]

You're right, that's why countries like France would never have protests turn violent.

What is happening in France is not a good example. It is a nuisance and nothing more, the Yellow Vests are not trying to overthrow the French government.

If the French government wanted to, it could easily crush them. However, that would look bad and it isn't necessary.

Essentially, yes.

Not in developed countries. Our living standard is too good for people to risk violence.

You're right, that's why countries like France would never have protests turn violent.

Thing is, our protests are always violent from the start, at least to some extent.
There is definitely no revolution coming here, tho.

[The Xenopolis Confederation]

If fascist and far right groups can be armed to fight their perceived enemies then the left and be armed against the fascists and far right who want them purged or ethnically cleaned, it's only fair.

Fair yes, but who said I wanted to be fair in this circumstance?

Common sense says you want to be fair in is circumstance. Human rights need to be universal, otherwise they're hollow and unsustainable. The people you oppose need to have rights as well or civil society is nonexistent, only chaos can follow.

Can playing fair cause you to lose? Sometimes, but I'd rather lose fairly than win by cheating. I'd rather fail to stop the rise of evil than become evil in order to do so.

Fairness may seem like something a kindergartener would spout, but that is only because it's so elementary a five year old could see it.

[The Xenopolis Confederation]

Imagine the shock when antifa kiddies find out that shooting centrists in the face for microaggressions isn't self-defence.

What's sad is that there are respected left-wing figures who think something strikingly similar to this,

[The Xenopolis Confederation]

Dude, I was saying that your statement was absolutely correct, just as correct as it is useless as an argument. You understand that the point of debate is to convice people, typically those on the fence, yeah?

You're saying that telling people - who are entirely unsure about something - that dead children mean less than that something existing doesn't actually win those people over?!

Pfft, what a bunch of hippie liberal commie malarkey.

They have a point. To place the lives of children above rights in every case would mean peohibiting anything that has the potential to kill children.