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Leftist Militias: Should Liberals Be Pro-Second Amendment?

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Postby Len Hyet » Fri Feb 22, 2019 12:49 pm

Genivaria wrote:
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The problem is, by most of their definitions, “fascist” is anyone right of them on the political spectrum. Do you want Bobby McCommie showing these groups you support as possible national security threats after they shot someone who disagreed with them?

This is funny because a liberal like Obama was attacked as a communist.

And Trump is attacked as literally Hitler.

I find it generally more conducive to ignore the screeching fringes.
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Fri Feb 22, 2019 1:04 pm

Hemmingstedt tho.

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Postby The Galactic Liberal Democracy » Sun Feb 24, 2019 9:22 am

Genivaria wrote:This is funny because a liberal like Obama was attacked as a communist.

Obama was barely a liberal.
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Postby Rojava Free State » Tue Aug 27, 2019 5:39 am

every one should be pro second amendment. Left, right, center, back, side corner, too (Maybe not the top so much but every one else), we all should support the right of Americans to bare arms
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Postby Rojava Free State » Tue Aug 27, 2019 5:42 am

The Galactic Liberal Democracy wrote:
Genivaria wrote:This is funny because a liberal like Obama was attacked as a communist.

Obama was barely a liberal.


The only thing liberal about Obama was he was a neoliberal warhawk establishment pawn. Her received millions of dollars in donations from wall street back in 2008, his FBI investigated and helped to shut down occupy wall street in 2011, he drone struck and killed innocent civilians in pakistan, he helped NATO overthrow mummar gaddafi which plunged Libya into chaos, he helped arm the Syrian rebels and he refused to enforce anti trust laws. Obama was a disappointment, not a revolutionary
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Postby Big Jim P » Tue Aug 27, 2019 6:07 am

Rojava Free State wrote:every one should be pro second amendment. Left, right, center, back, side corner, too (Maybe not the top so much but every one else), we all should support the right of Americans to bare arms


Truth. The right applies to ALL Americans, regardless of politics (or race etc).
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Postby Peoples Republic of Karlsruhe » Tue Aug 27, 2019 6:19 am

Using Leftist and Liberal synonymously
God-damnit America xD

And Yes l support the idea of liberal and leftist Militias in the US
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Postby Big Jim P » Tue Aug 27, 2019 6:21 am

Peoples Republic of Karlsruhe wrote:Using Leftist and Liberal synonymously
God-damnit America xD

And Yes l support the idea of liberal and leftist Militias in the US


In America they are synonymous.
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Postby First American Empire » Tue Aug 27, 2019 10:09 am

In the short term, we should have armed militias to defend ourselves from all the Right-Wing armed militias in America. However, we're never going to be able to outgun them without control over the military, so we should seek a repeal of the Second Amendment in the long term to level the playing field.

(Armed revolution in the United States is basically impossible. I'm not opposed to it in general, but I'm a pragmatist and it would be easier for the Left to work within the system to take control.)

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Postby The Chuck » Tue Aug 27, 2019 10:12 am

First American Empire wrote:In the short term, we should have armed militias to defend ourselves from all the Right-Wing armed militias in America. However, we're never going to be able to outgun them without control over the military, so we should seek a repeal of the Second Amendment in the long term to level the playing field.

(Armed revolution in the United States is basically impossible. I'm not opposed to it in general, but I'm a pragmatist and it would be easier for the Left to work within the system to take control.)

Iraeska wrote:
Left unity won't happen


*cries*


:roll: Why is it that many on the left want a civil war when many don't even support the right to bear arms for all Americans... it's almost like they want tyrannical contro... oh...
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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Tue Aug 27, 2019 10:15 am

First American Empire wrote:...we should seek a repeal of the Second Amendment in the long term to level the playing field.

Good luck with that. Even a good chunk of left wingers wouldn't support something that stupid, and only 21% of Americans overall.

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Postby Paddy O Fernature » Tue Aug 27, 2019 2:28 pm

LiberNovusAmericae wrote:
First American Empire wrote:...we should seek a repeal of the Second Amendment in the long term to level the playing field.

Good luck with that. Even a good chunk of left wingers wouldn't support something that stupid, and only 21% of Americans overall.


Fastest way to start a shooting civil war in the US is to outlaw the 2A and try forced disarmament of the populace.

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Postby Rojava Free State » Tue Aug 27, 2019 3:27 pm

First American Empire wrote:In the short term, we should have armed militias to defend ourselves from all the Right-Wing armed militias in America. However, we're never going to be able to outgun them without control over the military, so we should seek a repeal of the Second Amendment in the long term to level the playing field.

(Armed revolution in the United States is basically impossible. I'm not opposed to it in general, but I'm a pragmatist and it would be easier for the Left to work within the system to take control.)

Iraeska wrote:
Left unity won't happen


*cries*


I wouldn't say a revolution in america is impossible at all. If enough people were convinced that one was needed, I think it not only could happen but could succeed
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.

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Postby Rojava Free State » Tue Aug 27, 2019 3:28 pm

The Chuck wrote:
First American Empire wrote:In the short term, we should have armed militias to defend ourselves from all the Right-Wing armed militias in America. However, we're never going to be able to outgun them without control over the military, so we should seek a repeal of the Second Amendment in the long term to level the playing field.

(Armed revolution in the United States is basically impossible. I'm not opposed to it in general, but I'm a pragmatist and it would be easier for the Left to work within the system to take control.)



*cries*


:roll: Why is it that many on the left want a civil war when many don't even support the right to bear arms for all Americans... it's almost like they want tyrannical contro... oh...


No sane person should wanna see Americans killing Americans over bullshit
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.

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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Tue Aug 27, 2019 3:31 pm

Paddy O Fernature wrote:
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:Good luck with that. Even a good chunk of left wingers wouldn't support something that stupid, and only 21% of Americans overall.


Fastest way to start a shooting civil war in the US is to outlaw the 2A and try forced disarmament of the populace.

Yes, anyone who thinks that would go smoothly is out of touch.

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Postby Farnhamia » Tue Aug 27, 2019 3:35 pm

Rojava Free State wrote:every one should be pro second amendment. Left, right, center, back, side corner, too (Maybe not the top so much but every one else), we all should support the right of Americans to bare arms

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