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Telconi wrote:

Tobleste wrote:
I thought so. Generally killing people is seen as "post Kool-aid" behaviour.

Not by reasonable people.

So killing police is reasonable?

Tobleste wrote:

Telconi wrote:
I'm curious who thinks it isn't?

99% of the non-conservative and non-American human population.

I've literally never seen anyone who doesn't, so either you're full of crap, or I am a hell of a statistical anomoly.

Tobleste wrote:

Telconi wrote:
Not by reasonable people.

So killing police is reasonable?

When they are oppressing people, yes.

Washington Resistance Army wrote:

Tobleste wrote:
And gun ownership is worth killing for?

Every part of the bill of rights is.

Why?

Tobleste wrote:

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Every part of the bill of rights is.

Why?

Because I rather like all the various bits of it.

Telconi wrote:

Tobleste wrote:
99% of the non-conservative and non-American human population.

I've literally never seen anyone who doesn't, so either you're full of crap, or I am a hell of a statistical anomoly.

Hold on, you're saying you've never seen anyone who doesn't think it's unreasonable to murder someone to be able to own guns?

Washington Resistance Army wrote:

Tobleste wrote:
Why?

Because I rather like all the various bits of it.

I rather like ice cream. Do I get to murder people for that?

Tobleste wrote:

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Because I rather like all the various bits of it.

I rather like ice cream. Do I get to murder people for that?

If someone breaks into your home and tries to take your ice cream I say go ahead.

Tobleste wrote:

Telconi wrote:
I've literally never seen anyone who doesn't, so either you're full of crap, or I am a hell of a statistical anomoly.

Hold on, you're saying you've never seen anyone who doesn't think it's unreasonable to murder someone to be able to own guns?

No, I said I have never seen anyone who thinks it's unreasonable to kill over the issue of gun ownership.

Telconi wrote:

Tobleste wrote:
Hold on, you're saying you've never seen anyone who doesn't think it's unreasonable to murder someone to be able to own guns?

No, I said I have never seen anyone who thinks it's unreasonable to kill over the issue of gun ownership.

Well that explains alot. Also you are a statistical anomaly.

Washington Resistance Army wrote:

Tobleste wrote:
I rather like ice cream. Do I get to murder people for that?

If someone breaks into your home and tries to take your ice cream I say go ahead.

And if I'm in a country where ice creams are illegal, do I get to murder people until they're legalised?

Tobleste wrote:

Telconi wrote:
No, I said I have never seen anyone who thinks it's unreasonable to kill over the issue of gun ownership.

Well that explains alot. Also you are a statistical anomaly.

And yet you cant rustle up a counter-example.

Tobleste wrote:

Telconi wrote:
No, I said I have never seen anyone who thinks it's unreasonable to kill over the issue of gun ownership.

Well that explains alot. Also you are a statistical anomaly.

Yeah, we'll just take your word for that.

Telconi wrote:

Tobleste wrote:
Well that explains alot. Also you are a statistical anomaly.

And yet you cant rustle up a counter-example.

A counter example of someone who doesn't think it's reasonable to murder to own guns? Maybe pro gun control Americans and every country with stricter gun laws? That's, what 7.4 billion people?

Licana wrote:

Tobleste wrote:
Well that explains alot. Also you are a statistical anomaly.

Yeah, we'll just take your word for that.

So you think everyone thinks it's reasonable to murder to own guns?

Tobleste wrote:

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
If someone breaks into your home and tries to take your ice cream I say go ahead.

And if I'm in a country where ice creams are illegal, do I get to murder people until they're legalised?

If you feel that's a worthy cause.

Tobleste wrote:

Telconi wrote:
And yet you cant rustle up a counter-example.

A counter example of someone who doesn't think it's reasonable to murder to own guns? Maybe pro gun control Americans and every country with stricter gun laws? That's, what 7.4 billion people?

The best thing about counter-examples is they need to counter the stated position...

Gun grabbers are perfectly fine with killing over the issue of gun ownership.

Telconi wrote:

Tobleste wrote:
A counter example of someone who doesn't think it's reasonable to murder to own guns? Maybe pro gun control Americans and every country with stricter gun laws? That's, what 7.4 billion people?

The best thing about counter-examples is they need to counter the stated position...

Gun grabbers are perfectly fine with killing over the issue of gun ownership.

So forgetting about your weird second line, you admit there are plenty of counter examples then?
We need to take this one step at a time.

Telconi wrote:

Tobleste wrote:
A counter example of someone who doesn't think it's reasonable to murder to own guns? Maybe pro gun control Americans and every country with stricter gun laws? That's, what 7.4 billion people?

The best thing about counter-examples is they need to counter the stated position...

Gun grabbers are perfectly fine with killing over the issue of gun ownership.

This ^^ More authoritarian types would raid houses to seize any gun they could find, or have SWAT teams do it.

Washington Resistance Army wrote:

Tobleste wrote:
And if I'm in a country where ice creams are illegal, do I get to murder people until they're legalised?

If you feel that's a worthy cause.

So it's reasonable to kill for whatever I think is important?

Do you see why the rest of us think you (the anti gun control lobby) are ridiculous?

Tobleste wrote:

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
If you feel that's a worthy cause.

So it's reasonable to kill for whatever I think is important?

Do you see why the rest of us think you (the anti gun control lobby) are ridiculous?

So your argument is there is nothing worth killing or dying for?

Tobleste wrote:

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
If you feel that's a worthy cause.

So it's reasonable to kill for whatever I think is important?

Yes, it's been that way for literally all of human history.

Tobleste wrote:

Telconi wrote:
The best thing about counter-examples is they need to counter the stated position...

Gun grabbers are perfectly fine with killing over the issue of gun ownership.

So forgetting about your weird second line, you admit there are plenty of counter examples then?
We need to take this one step at a time.

You keep insisting these counter-examples exist, and yet you provide as a "counter-example" people who have literally written tweets about nuking American cities over the issue of gun ownership...

Hey, in case you didn't k ow this yet. Nuclear warheads kill...

Tobleste wrote:

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
If you feel that's a worthy cause.

So it's reasonable to kill for whatever I think is important?

Do you see why the rest of us think you (the anti gun control lobby) are ridiculous?

Most of us aren't seriously for terrorism in that manor, but I guarantee that over-regulating guns will create a violent black market. That's something that gun control advocates ignore.

Tobleste wrote:

Licana wrote:
Yeah, we'll just take your word for that.

So you think everyone thinks it's reasonable to murder to own guns?

"So you're saying X?" is about the laziest way to strawman, step up your game.