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Torrocca
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Postby Torrocca » Fri Feb 01, 2019 1:55 pm

Adad Civilization wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
Why play left or right (or center) when you can play third party as a background shadow organization? >:3

So you're a capitalist?


N-No u ;~;
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Postby Ors Might » Fri Feb 01, 2019 1:56 pm

Torrocca wrote:
Adad Civilization wrote:So you're a capitalist?


N-No u ;~;

You got struck with the proverbial ice pick, my friend.
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Postby Torrocca » Fri Feb 01, 2019 2:01 pm

Ors Might wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
N-No u ;~;

You got struck with the proverbial ice pick, my friend.


It's like Kronstadt all over again! D:
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Postby Ors Might » Fri Feb 01, 2019 2:04 pm

Torrocca wrote:
Ors Might wrote:You got struck with the proverbial ice pick, my friend.


It's like Kronstadt all over again! D:

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Postby West Leas Oros 2 » Fri Feb 01, 2019 2:12 pm

Ors Might wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
N-No u ;~;

You got struck with the proverbial ice pick, my friend.

Hey! That’s my job!
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Postby Ors Might » Fri Feb 01, 2019 2:18 pm

West Leas Oros 2 wrote:
Ors Might wrote:You got struck with the proverbial ice pick, my friend.

Hey! That’s my job!

We’ll get a really long ice pick and skewer you both, comrade.
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Democratic Socialists

Postby Torrocca » Fri Feb 01, 2019 2:20 pm

Ors Might wrote:
West Leas Oros 2 wrote:Hey! That’s my job!

We’ll get a really long ice pick and skewer you both, comrade.


Little did they know, impalement only empowers me >;3
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Postby West Leas Oros 2 » Fri Feb 01, 2019 2:21 pm

Ors Might wrote:
West Leas Oros 2 wrote:Hey! That’s my job!

We’ll get a really long ice pick and skewer you both, comrade.

Communists even share murder weapons. This is good praxis.
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keyboard warriors cant really shoot guns

Postby Marrero » Fri Feb 01, 2019 2:22 pm

dont worry americans! keyboard warriors dont know how to use guns.

only thing they can shoot is their uh children into their mouths HMMM TASTY!

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Postby West Leas Oros 2 » Fri Feb 01, 2019 2:23 pm

Marrero wrote:dont worry americans! keyboard warriors dont know how to use guns.

only thing they can shoot is their uh children into their mouths HMMM TASTY!

I was unaware liberals ate babies.
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Postby Torrocca » Fri Feb 01, 2019 2:24 pm

Marrero wrote:dont worry americans! keyboard warriors dont know how to use guns.

only thing they can shoot is their uh children into their mouths HMMM TASTY!


Our 3 AM child cannibal rituals are fantastic. We have shrines to Marx and everything that you can pray to while you partake, too!
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Postby Ors Might » Fri Feb 01, 2019 2:25 pm

Torrocca wrote:
Ors Might wrote:We’ll get a really long ice pick and skewer you both, comrade.


Little did they know, impalement only empowers me >;3

I don’t like the energy this post has.
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Postby West Leas Oros 2 » Fri Feb 01, 2019 2:27 pm

Ors Might wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
Little did they know, impalement only empowers me >;3

I don’t like the energy this post has.

‘Tis a dark energy.
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Postby Torrocca » Fri Feb 01, 2019 2:28 pm

Ors Might wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
Little did they know, impalement only empowers me >;3

I don’t like the energy this post has.


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West Leas Oros 2 wrote:
Ors Might wrote:I don’t like the energy this post has.

‘Tis a dark energy.


Ooh, you know it. ;3
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Postby Ors Might » Fri Feb 01, 2019 2:28 pm

West Leas Oros 2 wrote:
Ors Might wrote:I don’t like the energy this post has.

‘Tis a dark energy.

it’s just missing a very audible slurping sound
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Ors Might
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Capitalist Paradise

Postby Ors Might » Fri Feb 01, 2019 2:29 pm

Torrocca wrote:
Ors Might wrote:I don’t like the energy this post has.


*PG-13 censorship intensifies*

West Leas Oros 2 wrote:‘Tis a dark energy.


Ooh, you know it. ;3

All in favor of exorcising Comrade Tora, say aye.
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Torrocca
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Democratic Socialists

Postby Torrocca » Fri Feb 01, 2019 2:29 pm

Ors Might wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
*PG-13 censorship intensifies*



Ooh, you know it. ;3

All in favor of exorcising Comrade Tora, say aye.


Aye. Let's get that nerd >:3
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Postby West Leas Oros 2 » Fri Feb 01, 2019 2:30 pm

Ors Might wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
*PG-13 censorship intensifies*



Ooh, you know it. ;3

All in favor of exorcising Comrade Tora, say aye.

Aye
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Capitalist Paradise

Postby Ors Might » Fri Feb 01, 2019 2:31 pm

Torrocca wrote:
Ors Might wrote:All in favor of exorcising Comrade Tora, say aye.


Aye. Let's get that nerd >:3


West Leas Oros 2 wrote:
Ors Might wrote:All in favor of exorcising Comrade Tora, say aye.

Aye

Motion carried. Someone get the whi- fuck
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Postby Torrocca » Fri Feb 01, 2019 2:35 pm

Ors Might wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
Aye. Let's get that nerd >:3


West Leas Oros 2 wrote:Aye

Motion carried. Someone get the whi- fuck


The dark arts have made me invincible to your feeble mortal attempts on my life :3
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Postby West Leas Oros 2 » Fri Feb 01, 2019 2:37 pm

Torrocca wrote:
Ors Might wrote:

Motion carried. Someone get the whi- fuck


The dark arts have made me invincible to your feeble mortal attempts on my life :3

You think you’re immortal? I have the power of Icepicks AND Anime on my side!
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How many South Americans need to be killed by the CIA before you realize socialism is bad?
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Torrocca
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Postby Torrocca » Fri Feb 01, 2019 2:40 pm

West Leas Oros 2 wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
The dark arts have made me invincible to your feeble mortal attempts on my life :3

You think you’re immortal? I have the power of Icepicks AND Anime on my side!


Little did you know...

I am anime. >:3

OhandalsoI'maone-personLeftistMilitiabecauseweneedtogetbackontopic
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Postby West Leas Oros 2 » Fri Feb 01, 2019 2:40 pm

Torrocca wrote:
West Leas Oros 2 wrote:You think you’re immortal? I have the power of Icepicks AND Anime on my side!


Little did you know...

I am anime. >:3

OhandalsoI'maone-personLeftistMilitiabecauseweneedtogetbackontopic

Good point. Back on topic.
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Postby Paddy O Fernature » Fri Feb 01, 2019 4:05 pm

Ethereal Expanse wrote:No one needs weapon in the USA the right to bear arms is waste of everyone's time. There many countries without the right to bear arms and to my knowledge no extremely bad things have happened. In the case of revolution whether you have right or not you will find the weapons. The establishment has better trained, better funded soldiers that do little else than prepare for war. Not to mention police, FBI, CIA, and NSA. I do not believe our country will descend to that level. The Right has always been militant and frankly dangerous.


Thankfully, it's called the "The Bill of Rights" and not "The Bill of Needs".. Also, I'm going to go on a limb here and say that you would be hard pressed to find a single country in the world right now where something "extremely bad" hasn't happened in it's history. Human beings are horrible, and will continue to be so regardless if firearms are in the mix or not. Lastly, the argument that you are putting forth that the "establishment" has soldiers therefore rebellion is impossible has been debunked so many times already in not only this thread but several other US Firearm/2A threads that It's just not worth it to post links anymore as clearly, the lot of you who think this refuse to listen.

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Postby Torrocca » Fri Feb 01, 2019 4:16 pm

Paddy O Fernature wrote:
Ethereal Expanse wrote:No one needs weapon in the USA the right to bear arms is waste of everyone's time. There many countries without the right to bear arms and to my knowledge no extremely bad things have happened. In the case of revolution whether you have right or not you will find the weapons. The establishment has better trained, better funded soldiers that do little else than prepare for war. Not to mention police, FBI, CIA, and NSA. I do not believe our country will descend to that level. The Right has always been militant and frankly dangerous.


Thankfully, it's called the "The Bill of Rights" and not "The Bill of Needs".. Also, I'm going to go on a limb here and say that you would be hard pressed to find a single country in the world right now where something "extremely bad" hasn't happened in it's history. Human beings are horrible, and will continue to be so regardless if firearms are in the mix or not. Lastly, the argument that you are putting forth that the "establishment" has soldiers therefore rebellion is impossible has been debunked so many times already in not only this thread but several other US Firearm/2A threads that It's just not worth it to post links anymore as clearly, the lot of you who think this refuse to listen.


I wouldn't say we're horrible, at least not naturally so. Naturally, at the very most, we're driven by survival like any other species: of course, that's driven us to be a cooperative, communal species.

Now, on the other hand, I would definitely say that environmental and nurturing factors drive us - or, at the very least, some of us - to wickedness. Ideas like homophobia, racism, classism, sexism, xenophobia, etc. wouldn't just naturally appear in a vacuum. These are ideas fostered over generations, brought about by the trillions of unique experiences we face. We're only horrible because of the conditions of life that we've altered to fit the greater whole of ourselves.
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