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Postby Paddy O Fernature » Tue Jan 29, 2019 5:22 pm

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If this was the case, every square inch of my property would be empty ammo cans waiting to be filled. :lol:



Those cops deserve a medal for taking him out. It's pretty clear from the last cam angle that he literally was standing there with his hand on the pistol in his pocket while the cops were talking to him inside the school. These guys likely just avoided another mass shooter.


He also brought a backpack with additional magazines and ammo. I wonder if he was there for a more nefarious reason?
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It would certainly seem to be the case, and is well within the realm of probability, considering the circumstances laid out within that article.

Again, bravo on the Police in handling this situation and preventing it from going any further.
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Postby Valrifell » Tue Jan 29, 2019 5:31 pm

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Valrifell wrote:Other than the guy being alleged antifa and owning a gun, what's the relevance to the crux of the thread? I mean, right-wingers also own guns and "visit" schools and other dubious things so I'm not quite sure what the point is, there.


Someone had brought up armed antifa members since imo they would fall under a leftist militia.


But if you're not relating it back, then I don't see how just plopping it in the thread is productive.
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Postby Paddy O Fernature » Tue Jan 29, 2019 5:32 pm

So, here is a question for the thread at large....

If you could, with zero negative repercussions, would you consider enlisting/volunteering/taking active part as a member of a local Militia wherever that may be?

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Postby Western Vale Confederacy » Tue Jan 29, 2019 5:34 pm

Paddy O Fernature wrote:So, here is a question for the thread at large....

If you could, with zero negative repercussions, would you consider enlisting/volunteering/taking active part as a member of a local Militia wherever that may be?


Yes.

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Postby Torrocca » Tue Jan 29, 2019 5:49 pm

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Valrifell wrote:Other than the guy being alleged antifa and owning a gun, what's the relevance to the crux of the thread? I mean, right-wingers also own guns and "visit" schools and other dubious things so I'm not quite sure what the point is, there.


Someone had brought up armed antifa members since imo they would fall under a leftist militia.


That's not even proof that the guy was or was ever AntiFa.
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Postby Valrifell » Tue Jan 29, 2019 5:51 pm

Paddy O Fernature wrote:So, here is a question for the thread at large....

If you could, with zero negative repercussions, would you consider enlisting/volunteering/taking active part as a member of a local Militia wherever that may be?


No. Local militias still strike me as doomsday cultists for the time being. Though I'm not necessarily opposed to owning a firearm at one point in the future.
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Postby Torrocca » Tue Jan 29, 2019 5:52 pm

Paddy O Fernature wrote:So, here is a question for the thread at large....

If you could, with zero negative repercussions, would you consider enlisting/volunteering/taking active part as a member of a local Militia wherever that may be?


Hell ye.
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Postby The Galactic Liberal Democracy » Tue Jan 29, 2019 5:53 pm

Paddy O Fernature wrote:So, here is a question for the thread at large....

If you could, with zero negative repercussions, would you consider enlisting/volunteering/taking active part as a member of a local Militia wherever that may be?

depends on if they have a cool enough name
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Postby NeoOasis » Tue Jan 29, 2019 6:01 pm

Paddy O Fernature wrote:So, here is a question for the thread at large....

If you could, with zero negative repercussions, would you consider enlisting/volunteering/taking active part as a member of a local Militia wherever that may be?


Nah, not really. I might consider it if the group was exclusively made up of peole I know, but militias tend to be pretty heavy handed in their actions and speech. Just sign me up for a local club for fun... militias take way too much effort for what could be an effort not worth it.
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Postby Licana » Tue Jan 29, 2019 6:19 pm

Torrocca wrote:
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Someone had brought up armed antifa members since imo they would fall under a leftist militia.


That's not even proof that the guy was or was ever AntiFa.


The local antifa group is hosting at least two events commemorating him, and he's a known volunteer of the pro-antifa CLDC. Found all of this in like 2 minutes.

Paddy O Fernature wrote:So, here is a question for the thread at large....

If you could, with zero negative repercussions, would you consider enlisting/volunteering/taking active part as a member of a local Militia wherever that may be?


How does one enlist/volunteer in an FBI honeypot with zero negative repercussions?
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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Tue Jan 29, 2019 6:24 pm

Paddy O Fernature wrote:So, here is a question for the thread at large....

If you could, with zero negative repercussions, would you consider enlisting/volunteering/taking active part as a member of a local Militia wherever that may be?

A local militia probably sees me as one of the people they need to shoot so no
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Postby Torrocca » Tue Jan 29, 2019 6:25 pm

Licana wrote:
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That's not even proof that the guy was or was ever AntiFa.


The local antifa group is hosting at least two events commemorating him, and he's a known volunteer of the pro-antifa CLDC. Found all of this in like 2 minutes.


Alright, then, there we go. That's all I wanted.

On the other hand, though, from the video and from news articles about the event, it didn't seem like his attack on the cops - or the fact that he had a pistol and multiple magazines of ammunition for it at a school in the first place - make it seem like this wasn't something that happened for political reasons that'd even remotely relate to AntiFa, either way.
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Postby Licana » Tue Jan 29, 2019 6:28 pm

Torrocca wrote:On the other hand, though, from the video and from news articles about the event, it didn't seem like his attack on the cops - or the fact that he had a pistol and multiple magazines of ammunition for it at a school in the first place - make it seem like this wasn't something that happened for political reasons that'd even remotely relate to AntiFa, either way.


From what I understand, the incident was a result of a custody dispute with his ex-wife (ironic considering the "Smash the Patriarchy" shirt). So yeah, the shooting is probably not related to antifa.
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Vitaphone Racing wrote:Do lets. I really want to hear another explanation about dirty vaginas keeping women out of combat, despite the vagina being a self-cleaning organ.

So was the M-16.

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Postby Torrocca » Tue Jan 29, 2019 6:32 pm

Licana wrote:
Torrocca wrote:On the other hand, though, from the video and from news articles about the event, it didn't seem like his attack on the cops - or the fact that he had a pistol and multiple magazines of ammunition for it at a school in the first place - make it seem like this wasn't something that happened for political reasons that'd even remotely relate to AntiFa, either way.


From what I understand, the incident was a result of a custody dispute with his ex-wife (ironic considering the "Smash the Patriarchy" shirt). So yeah, the shooting is probably not related to antifa.


I'm almost certain it wasn't if that's the case. There's also, y'know, the fact that going into a school armed with a gun and dozens of rounds of ammunition for what were probably nefarious, school-shooting-related purposes isn't even something related to AntiFa's style of violence.
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Postby Paddy O Fernature » Tue Jan 29, 2019 7:12 pm

Licana wrote:
Paddy O Fernature wrote:So, here is a question for the thread at large....

If you could, with zero negative repercussions, would you consider enlisting/volunteering/taking active part as a member of a local Militia wherever that may be?


How does one enlist/volunteer in an FBI honeypot with zero negative repercussions?


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Postby Ardoki » Tue Jan 29, 2019 9:41 pm

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It's almost like he wants the insurgency to win.

I doubt the insurgents would continue carrying on if they knew the entire country would be destroyed. Not that I support that strategy.
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It's almost like he wants the insurgency to win.

I doubt the insurgents would continue carrying on if they knew the entire country would be destroyed. Not that I support that strategy.

If the entire country is destroyed, then they would blame the government, and possibly rightly so. This would in turn give them another reason to fight.
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Postby Ardoki » Tue Jan 29, 2019 10:55 pm

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Ardoki wrote:I doubt the insurgents would continue carrying on if they knew the entire country would be destroyed. Not that I support that strategy.

If the entire country is destroyed, then they would blame the government, and possibly rightly so. This would in turn give them another reason to fight.

Well, it would technically be their fault for instigating violence.
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Rightists actually feel smart when they type out dumb strawmen like this.


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Postby Crysuko » Tue Jan 29, 2019 11:39 pm

Dumb Ideologies wrote:Imagine the shock when antifa kiddies find out that shooting centrists in the face for microaggressions isn't self-defence.

imagine my shock when the right has no clue what the left is. Clue's in the name, Einstein. Anti fascist. They're far more concerned with opposing fascists, white supremacists and suchlike than lame duck centrists. You know what, keep right on confusing them. We, the actual hard left can use the liberals as a meatshield while you clots attack the wrong enemy.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Tue Jan 29, 2019 11:41 pm

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Dumb Ideologies wrote:Imagine the shock when antifa kiddies find out that shooting centrists in the face for microaggressions isn't self-defence.

imagine my shock when the right has no clue what the left is. Clue's in the name, Einstein. Anti fascist. They're far more concerned with opposing fascists, white supremacists and suchlike than lame duck centrists. You know what, keep right on confusing them. We, the actual hard left can use the liberals as a meatshield while you clots attack the wrong enemy.


They really aren't though. They almost never go get into actual confrontations with legit fascists, and most of the time when they do they lose.
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Postby Crysuko » Tue Jan 29, 2019 11:42 pm

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Crysuko wrote:imagine my shock when the right has no clue what the left is. Clue's in the name, Einstein. Anti fascist. They're far more concerned with opposing fascists, white supremacists and suchlike than lame duck centrists. You know what, keep right on confusing them. We, the actual hard left can use the liberals as a meatshield while you clots attack the wrong enemy.


They really aren't though. They almost never go get into actual confrontations with legit fascists, and most of the time when they do they lose.

hello where are the proofs. Also, antifa isn't one organisation but rather a blanket term that anyone and everyone can pick up and use at will. some are hardcore communists and anarchists, others are college radlibs. it's a mixed bag.
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This will take some time to figure out, i am afraid.

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Tue Jan 29, 2019 11:44 pm

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They really aren't though. They almost never go get into actual confrontations with legit fascists, and most of the time when they do they lose.

hello where are the proofs


The Greensboro Massacre is a good one.

The hint is in the name for how well it went for our Antifa friends.
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Postby Crysuko » Tue Jan 29, 2019 11:46 pm

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Crysuko wrote:hello where are the proofs


The Greensboro Massacre is a good one.

The hint is in the name for how well it went for our Antifa friends.

I raise you 2 instances of unite the right in which said right was epically humiliated by antifa, IWW and other assorted counterprotestors.
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This will take some time to figure out, i am afraid.

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