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by Hollibourn » Fri Jan 18, 2019 12:08 am
by The Lone Alliance » Fri Jan 18, 2019 1:25 am
Shofercia wrote:Trumptonium1 wrote:Nothing too bad, overall the video was retarded (especially the inclusion of the Sarkesian hag) but otherwise quite mild. Some nonsensical things like stopping kids playfighting because TOXIC MASCULINITY coupled with good and inspirational speeches from Terry Crews.
But mostly a failure. No idea why they decided to put that crap out. Gave it a well deserved dislike.
Oh, wait, they included that annoying chick from gamergate, who pretends to be a gamer just to lecture men on gaming, and who made a video analyzing butts, while making a video saying that staring at butts is wrong? I'm fairly certain that isn't the best that a man can get.
by Western Vale Confederacy » Fri Jan 18, 2019 2:04 am
The Lone Alliance wrote:Stupid, but pointless in the end.Shofercia wrote:
Oh, wait, they included that annoying chick from gamergate, who pretends to be a gamer just to lecture men on gaming, and who made a video analyzing butts, while making a video saying that staring at butts is wrong? I'm fairly certain that isn't the best that a man can get.
No it was apparently Ana Kasparian from "The Young Armenian Genociders".
by Knask » Fri Jan 18, 2019 3:03 am
The Lone Alliance wrote:Stupid, but pointless in the end.Shofercia wrote:
Oh, wait, they included that annoying chick from gamergate, who pretends to be a gamer just to lecture men on gaming, and who made a video analyzing butts, while making a video saying that staring at butts is wrong? I'm fairly certain that isn't the best that a man can get.
No it was apparently Ana Kasparian from "The Young Armenian Genociders".
by Costa Fierro » Fri Jan 18, 2019 5:07 am
by Galloism » Fri Jan 18, 2019 8:30 am
by The Blaatschapen » Fri Jan 18, 2019 8:32 am
Western Vale Confederacy wrote:New haven america wrote:The commercials message wasn't "White men bad", it was that the company itself and men need to be better. The problem is is that it fucked it up in dozens of different ways, and one of those ways was painting white men as the main predators/perpetrators of societal woes, especially those against women.
I've already gone over the other ways it's fucked up (No women showing agency or treated as anything more than objects or damsels in distress, no minority women were shown except for a child, Gillette still praciticing terrible shit like animal testing and near slave labor in developing nations but making no mention of those behaviors, etc...)
...They test razors on fucking animals?
by Liriena » Fri Jan 18, 2019 8:33 am
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by Ostroeuropa » Fri Jan 18, 2019 8:43 am
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by Ostroeuropa » Fri Jan 18, 2019 8:46 am
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by Ostroeuropa » Fri Jan 18, 2019 8:51 am
West Leas Oros 2 wrote:Ostroeuropa wrote:
Many radfems buy into engels' theory on family and fetishize matriarchal societies as superior while ignoring that in those societies men are often treated very badly.
I assumed they were appropriating the ideas of conflict theory and applying the class struggle to “patriarchy”.
by Page » Fri Jan 18, 2019 8:52 am
by Vassenor » Fri Jan 18, 2019 8:54 am
Ostroeuropa wrote:West Leas Oros 2 wrote:When did radfems and anti-capitalism align to begin with?
Many radfems buy into engels' theory on family with the notion that matriarchal clans collapsed in order to ensure bloodlines and inheritance of property, and fetishize matriarchal societies as superior while ignoring that in those societies men are often treated very badly and have no stability in the community because at any time they might be exiled if they so much as annoy a woman. It is noteworthy that matriarchies tend to function through social vilification, ostracization, and exclusion of males when discussing feminism.
by Ostroeuropa » Fri Jan 18, 2019 8:55 am
Page wrote:West Leas Oros 2 wrote:When did radfems and anti-capitalism align to begin with?
For quite a long time. Consider Emma Goldman, who saw women's liberation and the end of capitalism and the state to be mutually dependent.
It is only in more recent times that some feminists have diverged from anti-capitalism, the ones who decided that the patriarchy was a bigger problem than the class war. But there are also feminists today who understand that women's liberation means proletariat women's liberation who don't concern themselves with how fewer millions women CEO's make than men.
by Galloism » Fri Jan 18, 2019 8:59 am
by Liriena » Fri Jan 18, 2019 9:01 am
Ostroeuropa wrote:Page wrote:
For quite a long time. Consider Emma Goldman, who saw women's liberation and the end of capitalism and the state to be mutually dependent.
It is only in more recent times that some feminists have diverged from anti-capitalism, the ones who decided that the patriarchy was a bigger problem than the class war. But there are also feminists today who understand that women's liberation means proletariat women's liberation who don't concern themselves with how fewer millions women CEO's make than men.
I think the fact feminism has become markedly less anti-capitalist is perhaps the biggest and most glaring indicator that women are not oppressed there is.
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by Ostroeuropa » Fri Jan 18, 2019 9:01 am
Vassenor wrote:Ostroeuropa wrote:
Many radfems buy into engels' theory on family with the notion that matriarchal clans collapsed in order to ensure bloodlines and inheritance of property, and fetishize matriarchal societies as superior while ignoring that in those societies men are often treated very badly and have no stability in the community because at any time they might be exiled if they so much as annoy a woman. It is noteworthy that matriarchies tend to function through social vilification, ostracization, and exclusion of males when discussing feminism.
Oh cool, let's see sources for those claims.
For radical feminists, the importance of matriarchy is that "veneration for the female principle ... somewhat lightens an oppressive system."
by Liriena » Fri Jan 18, 2019 9:03 am
Galloism wrote:Schick decided to jump in on the controversy to promote their razors, taking a slightly different tack.
Lord, I hate capitalism sometimes. None of these fuckers have any room to say anything about the issues. They're just trying to sell razors. I fucking know when I'm being played, dammit.
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by Proctopeo » Fri Jan 18, 2019 9:08 am
Galloism wrote:Schick decided to jump in on the controversy to promote their razors, taking a slightly different tack.
Lord, I hate capitalism sometimes. None of these fuckers have any room to say anything about the issues. They're just trying to sell razors. I fucking know when I'm being played, dammit.
by Galloism » Fri Jan 18, 2019 9:11 am
Proctopeo wrote:Galloism wrote:Schick decided to jump in on the controversy to promote their razors, taking a slightly different tack.
Lord, I hate capitalism sometimes. None of these fuckers have any room to say anything about the issues. They're just trying to sell razors. I fucking know when I'm being played, dammit.
Better than Gillette's.
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