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Bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran. (War.)
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31%
Don't start another war. (Peace.)
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Total votes : 139

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Internationalist Bastard
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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Thu Jan 17, 2019 8:50 pm

De Imperii Americae wrote:This might be the only time I actually agree with Ostoeuropa. A war with Iran would be a humanitarian and diplomatic disaster, and just a massive waste of money in general

And considering the minimal threat Iran poses to the US, yeah no there's no benefits here
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The Federated Soviets of North America
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Postby The Federated Soviets of North America » Thu Jan 17, 2019 8:51 pm

Skualverga wrote:I support our troops and thank America is the greatest country and if the there is a war I will support it to . Iran is a threat that much I know .also people want to talk shit about America but none of the countries of the world are perfect I might not like somethings but I stand by my right to defend my country .

Imagine thinking that Iran has any interest in attacking the US
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Postby Ausinia » Thu Jan 17, 2019 9:18 pm

The Knockout Gun Gals wrote:
Ausinia wrote:sure. why not the kiwis?


In all honesty though, I couldn't really see the Commonwealth to support this war plans.


From how it feels, Sco Mo will support America until it becomes reality, if it becomes reality. Jacindia Adern won’t agree at all. I don’t know what it’s like in Canada, but I imagine it’s similar to NZ.
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Postby The Lone Alliance » Thu Jan 17, 2019 9:47 pm

It's doubtful we'll have war with Congress like it is.

Even Trump flip flops on Iran, see how he outright admitted he didn't care that Iran was pretty much given free reign to do whatever they want in Syria now.
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Postby The Knockout Gun Gals » Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:03 pm

Skualverga wrote:I support our troops and thank America is the greatest country and if the there is a war I will support it to . Iran is a threat that much I know .also people want to talk shit about America but none of the countries of the world are perfect I might not like somethings but I stand by my right to defend my country .


Typical imperialist goal.
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Postby Saiwania » Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:07 pm

Internationalist Bastard wrote:And considering the minimal threat Iran poses to the US, yeah no there's no benefits here


That is exactly the kind of war a country wants. One where the attacker can attack with relative impunity and the defender doesn't have the ability to invade the attacker's territory. The smart bombs are a bit of a let down in my view. I'm in favor of carpet bombing of all major cities being done like in the good old days.
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The Federated Soviets of North America
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Postby The Federated Soviets of North America » Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:21 pm

Saiwania wrote:
Internationalist Bastard wrote:And considering the minimal threat Iran poses to the US, yeah no there's no benefits here


That is exactly the kind of war a country wants. One where the attacker can attack with relative impunity and the defender doesn't have the ability to invade the attacker's territory. The smart bombs are a bit of a let down in my view. I'm in favor of carpet bombing of all major cities being done like in the good old days.

I'm sorry, are you claiming that committing war crimes with absolute impunity is a good thing?
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Postby Saiwania » Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:32 pm

The Federated Soviets of North America wrote:I'm sorry, are you claiming that committing war crimes with absolute impunity is a good thing?


It shouldn't be a war crime in my view. War has become too soft for my liking, but this can be fixed in time. The limits I can agree to is there being no nuclear, biological, or chemical warfare. Most conventional weaponry including flamethrowers, should be allowed.
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Postby The Federated Soviets of North America » Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:34 pm

Saiwania wrote:
The Federated Soviets of North America wrote:I'm sorry, are you claiming that committing war crimes with absolute impunity is a good thing?


It shouldn't be a war crime in my view. War has become too soft for my liking, but this can be fixed in time. The limits I can agree to is there being no nuclear, biological, or chemical warfare. Most conventional weaponry including flamethrowers, should be allowed.

Oh, I get it, you just think that the mass slaughter of civilians should be not only legal, but encouraged.

That's significantly worse
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Postby Tlerzhenvoa » Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:37 pm

Saiwania wrote:
The Federated Soviets of North America wrote:I'm sorry, are you claiming that committing war crimes with absolute impunity is a good thing?


It shouldn't be a war crime in my view. War has become too soft for my liking, but this can be fixed in time. The limits I can agree to is there being no nuclear, biological, or chemical warfare. Most conventional weaponry including flamethrowers, should be allowed.

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Bardarus
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Postby Bardarus » Fri Jan 18, 2019 5:57 am

Definetly against! The last thing we need is a second 'Iraq-operation Crusade' but against a better armed country with an actual nuclear program, not to mention that it will increase political tension between the West, Russia and China and could lead to something far worse.
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Phoenicaea
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Postby Phoenicaea » Fri Jan 18, 2019 6:28 am

^ @Bardarus, i m not a military nor a stratetist, instead i say i don t know about. nevertheless, if i would have a say, i agree, with you.

its plausible a hipothetical arab-american iran invasion these days -with other engages meanwhile, (not strikes) would mean a defeat, through impossible occupation upkeep.
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