War plans with Iran requested by White House

[Samudera Darussalam]

To bomb Australia?

What, no! I didn’t read it right! No! I’m from Australia, no!

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Pardon for my late entrance.
Like some previous posters, I'm simply against any war with Iran because the Middle East needs some stability, and Europe doesn't need more refugees to flood into their countries.

Last time the US and their allies installed a dictator in Persia, somehow Persia got an Islamic Revolution and Khomeini as Supreme Leader after a while.
Or maybe you prefer to talk about the yuuuge success that has been the US support for Saudi Arabia and Pakistan. Does Osama Bin Laden ring a bell, either?

'Murica should just avoid invading the MENA area, period. Just staying clear out of it would be even better.

^ This

[The Knockout Gun Gals]

To bomb Australia?

What, no! I didn’t read it right! No! I’m from Australia, no!

To bomb New Zealand, then?

[Ausinia]

What, no! I didn’t read it right! No! I’m from Australia, no!

To bomb New Zealand, then?

sure. why not the kiwis?

[An Alan Smithee Nation]

Taking a leaf out of Milo Minderbinder's book, Trump has done a deal with the Russians to bomb the US's own military facilities.

[The Knockout Gun Gals]

To bomb New Zealand, then?

sure. why not the kiwis?

In all honesty though, I couldn't really see the Commonwealth to support this war plans.

[Unstoppable Empire of Doom]

What happened:
Bolton being bored, requesting plans for a war he knows thats probably not going to happen anyways.

Sums it up nicely. Iran is too big, has too many mountains, and it has a huge population. Any war would be bloody. Any occupation would be doubly so.

[Frievolk]

Something I find hilarious, maybe not necessarily related to the fact that Bolton's playing another game against the Mullahs in Iran, is the utterly retarded American Exceptionalist view that suggests the Islamic Revolution had anything to do with the Coup d'état of 28 Mordad. It didn't. The Shah had become too authoritarian (too Authoritarian, even for the Carter Administration), too deluded in his power, and had played with the country's religious background too much. He agitated the Lefties (Who were, of course, further emboldened by The USSR), suppressed the intellectuals and the Academia, and much worse he allowed Islamic radicalism (Which was on the rise in the MENA anyway) to fester, get mixed with Leftist revolutionary thought (specifically ML), and then lacked the balls to deal with the protesters accordingly when they inevitably came out to play (so much so that the revolution might be one of the most bloodless violent revolutions in its era).
The Coup d'état of 28 Mordad (the so-called Operation Ajax) had nothing to do with it. The Capitulation, maybe; but America was not the cause, direct or indirect, to the revolution. It was the people of Iran being retardedly obtuse. Something they've learned and woe about every single day nowadays.

[Western Vale Confederacy]

Something I find hilarious, maybe not necessarily related to the fact that Bolton's playing another game against the Mullahs in Iran, is the utterly retarded American Exceptionalist view that suggests the Islamic Revolution had anything to do with the Coup d'état of 28 Mordad. It didn't. The Shah had become too authoritarian (too Authoritarian, even for the Carter Administration), too deluded in his power, and had played with the country's religious background too much. He agitated the Lefties (Who were, of course, further emboldened by The USSR), suppressed the intellectuals and the Academia, and much worse he allowed Islamic radicalism (Which was on the rise in the MENA anyway) to fester, get mixed with Leftist revolutionary thought (specifically ML), and then lacked the balls to deal with the protesters accordingly when they inevitably came out to play (so much so that the revolution might be one of the most bloodless violent revolutions in its era).
The Coup d'état of 28 Mordad (the so-called Operation Ajax) had nothing to do with it. The Capitulation, maybe; but America was not the cause, direct or indirect, to the revolution. It was the people of Iran being retardedly obtuse. Something they've learned and woe about every single day nowadays.

Am I correct if I say that most Iranians hold the current Islamic regime closer to their arse than their heart?

[Frievolk]

Something I find hilarious, maybe not necessarily related to the fact that Bolton's playing another game against the Mullahs in Iran, is the utterly retarded American Exceptionalist view that suggests the Islamic Revolution had anything to do with the Coup d'état of 28 Mordad. It didn't. The Shah had become too authoritarian (too Authoritarian, even for the Carter Administration), too deluded in his power, and had played with the country's religious background too much. He agitated the Lefties (Who were, of course, further emboldened by The USSR), suppressed the intellectuals and the Academia, and much worse he allowed Islamic radicalism (Which was on the rise in the MENA anyway) to fester, get mixed with Leftist revolutionary thought (specifically ML), and then lacked the balls to deal with the protesters accordingly when they inevitably came out to play (so much so that the revolution might be one of the most bloodless violent revolutions in its era).
The Coup d'état of 28 Mordad (the so-called Operation Ajax) had nothing to do with it. The Capitulation, maybe; but America was not the cause, direct or indirect, to the revolution. It was the people of Iran being retardedly obtuse. Something they've learned and woe about every single day nowadays.

Am I correct if I say that most Iranians hold the current Islamic regime closer to their arse than their heart?

I can't speak for every Iranian, but every Iranian I've met (and, well, I can safely say I have indeed met a lot of them) holds the regime closer to their arse than their heart.

[Western Vale Confederacy]

Am I correct if I say that most Iranians hold the current Islamic regime closer to their arse than their heart?

I can't speak for every Iranian, but every Iranian I've met (and, well, I can safely say I have indeed met a lot of them) holds the regime closer to their arse than their heart.

Then it is time for Iran to finally become a democracy.

Took 'em long enough considering they were longing it for decades.

[Frievolk]

I can't speak for every Iranian, but every Iranian I've met (and, well, I can safely say I have indeed met a lot of them) holds the regime closer to their arse than their heart.

Then it is time for Iran to finally become a democracy.

Took 'em long enough considering they were longing it for decades.

Seriously, nothing hindered that path as much as the Revolution's Islamic Wings. Sure, The Constitutionalists and the Nationalists were alright, but they had little political power seeing as the Mujahideen and the Tudeh Party openly assassinated individuals on the street and half the country's politicians were already swearing allegiance to Khomeyni and Taleqani.
Had the Shah not backed down like he did (though, it is highly debated, even in Iran, whether or not him backing down was a conspiracy by Bakhtiar and his fellows in the National Front) and showed a little backbone, the crisis of 79 may have passed and by 81, after Mohammadreza's inevitable death from his terminal cancer, Iran may have democratized like it should have.

[Myrensis]

I thought the whole point of voting Trump was that he'd make sure America never got into wars again.

That was yesterday. 10 minutes after Trump announced the invasion his supporters would loudly be telling everyone how they have always 100% supported more wars and in fact that's exactly why they voted for Trump, because they knew he was the bravest warhawk who would make sure America continues and expands it's vital role as the world's police!

Any suggestion to the contrary is FAKE NEWS!

Am I correct if I say that most Iranians hold the current Islamic regime closer to their arse than their heart?

I can't speak for every Iranian, but every Iranian I've met (and, well, I can safely say I have indeed met a lot of them) holds the regime closer to their arse than their heart.

So they would totally welcome us as liberators!! Hmm, why does that sound oddly familiar...

[Frievolk]

I can't speak for every Iranian, but every Iranian I've met (and, well, I can safely say I have indeed met a lot of them) holds the regime closer to their arse than their heart.

So they would totally welcome us as liberators!! Hmm, why does that sound oddly familiar...

We probably would if your doctrine for "What to do after we win a war in one week" wasn't utterly and completely retarded.

[Western Vale Confederacy]

So they would totally welcome us as liberators!! Hmm, why does that sound oddly familiar...

We probably would if your doctrine for "What to do after we win a war in one week" wasn't utterly and completely retarded.

Organizing the transition to democracy and overseeing the first elections in cooperation with the Iranians would certainly be a start.

[Novus America]

What happened:
Bolton being bored, requesting plans for a war he knows thats probably not going to happen anyways.

Sums it up nicely. Iran is too big, has too many mountains, and it has a huge population. Any war would be bloody. Any occupation would be doubly so.

While it does sum it up nicely, the plane only called for air strikes, not an occupation.
War does not always require complete occupation of all the opposing sides territory.

[Sahansahiye Iran]

Sums it up nicely. Iran is too big, has too many mountains, and it has a huge population. Any war would be bloody. Any occupation would be doubly so.

While it does sum it up nicely, the plane only called for air strikes, not an occupation.

Erm. How do you know that? Am I missing something in those articles?

[Novus America]

While it does sum it up nicely, the plane only called for air strikes, not an occupation.

Erm. How do you know that? Am I missing something in those articles?

“The White House asked the Pentagon to draw up options for military strikes against Iran in the wake of two incidents in Iraq last September when mortar shells and rockets fired by militias exploded near US diplomatic facilities, it was reported on Sunday.”

The term strikes indicates air strikes, not a full out invasion and occupation.

[Sahansahiye Iran]

Erm. How do you know that? Am I missing something in those articles?

“The White House asked the Pentagon to draw up options for military strikes against Iran in the wake of two incidents in Iraq last September when mortar shells and rockets fired by militias exploded near US diplomatic facilities, it was reported on Sunday.”

The term strikes indicates air strikes, not a full out invasion and occupation.

Erm. No, it doesn't necessarily always just mean air strikes. That's flimsy at best. Man, I thought you had some cool link to show. Never mind then.

[The Knockout Gun Gals]

What happened:
Bolton being bored, requesting plans for a war he knows thats probably not going to happen anyways.

Sums it up nicely. Iran is too big, has too many mountains, and it has a huge population. Any war would be bloody. Any occupation would be doubly so.

And that Iran is not Iraq. Or Afghanistan.

[Saiwania]

And that Iran is not Iraq. Or Afghanistan.

That is why it is even more exciting, if the opponent in question can actually mount a defense. The US hasn't gone up against a good conventional military in some time. I'd like for the invasion of Iran to eclipse the German invasion of Poland in grandeur and spectacle.

I will call the invasion plans for Iran- Case Green as opposed to Case White or Case Blue.

[The Knockout Gun Gals]

And that Iran is not Iraq. Or Afghanistan.

That is why it is even more exciting, if the opponent in question can actually mount a defense. The US hasn't gone up against a good conventional military in some time. I'd like for the invasion of Iran to eclipse the German invasion of Poland in grandeur and spectacle.

I will call the invasion plans for Iran- Case Green as opposed to Case White or Case Blue.

I do think if the war gets prolonged due to some unexpected aspects, the population will be up in arms similar with what happened with Vietnam.

[Skualverga]

I support our troops and thank America is the greatest country and if the there is a war I will support it to . Iran is a threat that much I know .also people want to talk shit about America but none of the countries of the world are perfect I might not like somethings but I stand by my right to defend my country .

[Internationalist Bastard]

And that Iran is not Iraq. Or Afghanistan.

That is why it is even more exciting, if the opponent in question can actually mount a defense. The US hasn't gone up against a good conventional military in some time. I'd like for the invasion of Iran to eclipse the German invasion of Poland in grandeur and spectacle.

I will call the invasion plans for Iran- Case Green as opposed to Case White or Case Blue.

I feel like the Iranians would put up better fight than the Polish honestly

[Internationalist Bastard]

I support our troops and thank America is the greatest country and if the there is a war I will support it to . Iran is a threat that much I know .also people want to talk shit about America but none of the countries of the world are perfect I might not like somethings but I stand by my right to defend my country .

Innocence is the first casualty of war

[De Imperii Americae]

This might be the only time I actually agree with Ostoeuropa. A war with Iran would be a humanitarian and diplomatic disaster, and just a massive waste of money in general