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Postby The Blaatschapen » Mon Jan 14, 2019 11:53 am

Adad Civilization wrote:
Jebslund wrote:I'll see your bag of chips and raise you a steak dinner and a gallon of whole milk in ten minutes flat.

I'll see your bag of steak dinner and gallon of whole milk in ten minutes flat and raise you having a one night stand with a very ugly and fat chick


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Postby Xmara » Mon Jan 14, 2019 4:24 pm

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Jebslund wrote:
Adad Civilization wrote:Yes, it's called eating a bag of chips within a hour

I'll see your bag of chips and raise you a steak dinner and a gallon of whole milk in ten minutes flat.


*cries in lactose intolerance*
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Postby Jebslund » Mon Jan 14, 2019 5:53 pm

Adad Civilization wrote:
Jebslund wrote:I'll see your bag of chips and raise you a steak dinner and a gallon of whole milk in ten minutes flat.

I'll see your bag of steak dinner and gallon of whole milk in ten minutes flat and raise you having a one night stand with a very ugly and fat chick

I'll see your ugly fat chick and raise you a skinny chick old enough to be my grandmother. Not super-ugly, but still.
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Postby Bloodshade » Mon Jan 14, 2019 6:05 pm

I guess that'd be something similar to a guilty pleasure?

I mean, for example, I genuinely enjoy watching 'The Cat in the Hat' movie. It definitely butchered the book but for some reason, It's a lot of fun. :P
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Postby The Emerald Legion » Mon Jan 14, 2019 6:11 pm

Nolo gap wrote:what matters is to avoid causing harm.

once you've done everything in you own power to do so, pride and shame are equally illogical.

of course, as emotions, its not always a choice to feel them, and yes of course you can feel both at the same time.

other then to encourage you to want to avoid causing harm though, they are both illogical.


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Postby Mushet » Mon Jan 14, 2019 6:37 pm

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Postby Kombinita Socialisma Demokratio » Mon Jan 14, 2019 8:18 pm

Sure it is. Something I once told I do not regret that I told it at all, but I do regret how I told it. Perhaps your circumstances are similar.
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Postby Geneviev » Mon Jan 14, 2019 8:40 pm

When I'm proud of something I'm ashamed of being proud since it's a sin, but I'm not sure if that's the same.
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Postby The Rich Port » Wed Jan 16, 2019 5:12 pm

The blAAtschApen wrote:I was an NS Moderator.

Yes :p


I say that's something to just be proud of, Blaat. ^3^
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Postby Esternial » Wed Jan 16, 2019 5:14 pm

The Rich Port wrote:
The blAAtschApen wrote:I was an NS Moderator.

Yes :p


I say that's something to just be proud of, Blaat. ^3^

Just outsource the shame to someone else. Brilliant idea!
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Postby The Rich Port » Wed Jan 16, 2019 5:15 pm

Esternial wrote:
The Rich Port wrote:
I say that's something to just be proud of, Blaat. ^3^

Just outsource the shame to someone else. Brilliant idea!


Exactly. For example.

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Postby Confederate States of German America » Wed Jan 16, 2019 9:54 pm

Yes. I once slept with a stage dancer for Juicy J, kinda regret it but at the same time.....this was a dancer for Juicy J.
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Postby Risottia » Wed Jan 16, 2019 11:06 pm

Dawetid wrote:I have discovered something today, where the things I used to be proud of, now I only feel half the pride, while the other half has been taken over by a feeling of shame of the same thing. (I won’t go into what it is, because that’s another topic of controversy.)

In short, I have this mixed feeling of pride and shame of the same thing, at the same time. Is this really possible, or is it a problem?

A mixed state defined as

|state> = 1/sqrt{2} • |proud> + 1/sqrt{2} • |ashamed>

is possible. A mixed state defined as

|state> = 1/2 • |proud> + 1/2 • |ashamed>

is not, because of the normalisation.
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Postby Nouveau Yathrib » Wed Jan 16, 2019 11:25 pm

Among other things, I'm both proud and ashamed of my pre-2015 NSG posts.
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Postby Xmara » Thu Jan 17, 2019 2:07 pm

Nouveau Yathrib wrote:Among other things, I'm both proud and ashamed of my pre-2015 NSG posts.


Same.

Mostly ashamed though. Looking back I was kinda stupid and very cringey in high school.
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Postby Forlania » Thu Jan 24, 2019 8:06 am

Dawetid wrote:I have discovered something today, where the things I used to be proud of, now I only feel half the pride, while the other half has been taken over by a feeling of shame of the same thing. (I won’t go into what it is, because that’s another topic of controversy.)

In short, I have this mixed feeling of pride and shame of the same thing, at the same time. Is this really possible, or is it a problem?

Absolutely possible.
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Probably not the answer you were searching for when you started this thread but hey.
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Postby Major-Tom » Thu Jan 24, 2019 8:09 am

Happens to the best of us, yes.

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Postby The Blaatschapen » Thu Jan 24, 2019 8:10 am

Esternial wrote:
The Rich Port wrote:
I say that's something to just be proud of, Blaat. ^3^

Just outsource the shame to someone else. Brilliant idea!


It's why there are mentors :)

It's short for dementors, they'll suck up the negative emotion :)
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Postby The Blaatschapen » Thu Jan 24, 2019 8:11 am

Xmara wrote:
Nouveau Yathrib wrote:Among other things, I'm both proud and ashamed of my pre-2015 NSG posts.


Same.

Mostly ashamed though. Looking back I was kinda stupid and very cringey in high school.


That's called high school.
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Postby Major-Tom » Thu Jan 24, 2019 8:12 am

The blAAtschApen wrote:
Xmara wrote:
Same.

Mostly ashamed though. Looking back I was kinda stupid and very cringey in high school.


That's called high school.


I've yet to meet a person who doesn't cringe when looking back at high school, lmao.

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Postby Xmara » Thu Jan 24, 2019 8:13 am

The blAAtschApen wrote:
Xmara wrote:
Same.

Mostly ashamed though. Looking back I was kinda stupid and very cringey in high school.


That's called high school.


I know. I just wish I had at least something I could be proud of in high school.
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Postby The Blaatschapen » Thu Jan 24, 2019 8:13 am

Major-Tom wrote:
The blAAtschApen wrote:
That's called high school.


I've yet to meet a person who doesn't cringe when looking back at high school, lmao.


Teachers voluntarily go back to it....
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Postby Major-Tom » Thu Jan 24, 2019 8:15 am

The blAAtschApen wrote:
Major-Tom wrote:
I've yet to meet a person who doesn't cringe when looking back at high school, lmao.


Teachers voluntarily go back to it....


...As someone in Uni for the purpose of becoming a high school teacher, well, uh...

I'd have a witty response, but first I need to tackle the existential crisis you've just given me. :p

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