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Diopolis wrote:

Jetan wrote:Hell yeah I'd do it. Quitting afterwards might take some doing but I believe I would be capable of it, and 2 mil is enough money that I can live comfortably for the rest of my life without having to work a day if I don't want to.

A straight 2 million? Probably not. 2 million with smart investing? Definitely.

Me and Smart Investing are mutually exclusive.

If you give me 3 billion dollars I would probably still manage to lose most of it somehow.

Infected Mushroom wrote:

Diopolis wrote:A straight 2 million? Probably not. 2 million with smart investing? Definitely.

Me and Smart Investing are mutually exclusive.

If you give me 3 billion dollars I would probably still manage to lose most of it somehow.

At 3 billion dollars you hire someone to do it for you

Heck, at two million, getting an agency to handle certain specifics might already be worthwhile.

Infected Mushroom wrote:

Diopolis wrote:A straight 2 million? Probably not. 2 million with smart investing? Definitely.

Me and Smart Investing are mutually exclusive.

If you give me 3 billion dollars I would probably still manage to lose most of it somehow.

Give old Dio a call if someone gives you 3 billion dollars. You'll need help finding an asset manager.

The blAAtschApen wrote:

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Me and Smart Investing are mutually exclusive.

If you give me 3 billion dollars I would probably still manage to lose most of it somehow.

At 3 billion dollars you hire someone to do it for you

Heck, at two million, getting an agency to handle certain specifics might already be worthwhile.

with my luck and judgement, I'll probably accidentally hire someone who runs away with most of it and disappears

Diopolis wrote:

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Me and Smart Investing are mutually exclusive.

If you give me 3 billion dollars I would probably still manage to lose most of it somehow.

Give old Dio a call if someone gives you 3 billion dollars. You'll need help finding an asset manager.

I see...

Infected Mushroom wrote:

The blAAtschApen wrote:
At 3 billion dollars you hire someone to do it for you

Heck, at two million, getting an agency to handle certain specifics might already be worthwhile.

with my luck and judgement, I'll probably accidentally hire someone who runs away with most of it and disappears

Don't trust Diopolis. Trust the Blaatschapen instead.

The blAAtschApen wrote:

Infected Mushroom wrote:
with my luck and judgement, I'll probably accidentally hire someone who runs away with most of it and disappears

Don't trust Diopolis. Trust the Blaatschapen instead.

What’s going on here

Why this sudden interest ?

Y’all like this asset management work?

Infected Mushroom wrote:

The blAAtschApen wrote:
Don't trust Diopolis. Trust the Blaatschapen instead.

What’s going on here

Why this sudden interest ?

Y’all like this asset management work?

I like handling 3 billion dollars, yes

The blAAtschApen wrote:

Infected Mushroom wrote:
What’s going on here

Why this sudden interest ?

Y’all like this asset management work?

I like handling 3 billion dollars, yes

Donate it to Trump and become a hero of the American people ?

The Alma Mater wrote:

The blAAtschApen wrote:
I like handling 3 billion dollars, yes

Donate it to Trump and become a hero of the American people ?

I live in Berlin. I'm not a big fan of building walls.

That said, I do like to become a hero of the American people.

Well, one American person actually.

Okay, Katy Perry

Infected Mushroom wrote:

The blAAtschApen wrote:
At 3 billion dollars you hire someone to do it for you

Heck, at two million, getting an agency to handle certain specifics might already be worthwhile.

with my luck and judgement, I'll probably accidentally hire someone who runs away with most of it and disappears

It wouldn't be difficult to find someone who would have a legal duty to act in your best financial interests.

Ifreann wrote:

Infected Mushroom wrote:
with my luck and judgement, I'll probably accidentally hire someone who runs away with most of it and disappears

It wouldn't be difficult to find someone who would have a legal duty to act in your best financial interests.

what if they take the money, run away with it, and then live under a new identity in a country with no extradition?

Infected Mushroom wrote:

Ifreann wrote:It wouldn't be difficult to find someone who would have a legal duty to act in your best financial interests.

what if they take the money, run away with it, and then live under a new identity in a country with no extradition?

They wouldn't be able to just take all your money. You wouldn't be giving someone all your money to invest, you'd be paying someone to make an investment portfolio for you. If they wanted to scam you, they'd get you to invest in things that personally profit them, independent of what you're paying them.

There are a lot of rich people in the world, this stuff is all already figured out.

Ifreann wrote:

Infected Mushroom wrote:
what if they take the money, run away with it, and then live under a new identity in a country with no extradition?

They wouldn't be able to just take all your money. You wouldn't be giving someone all your money to invest, you'd be paying someone to make an investment portfolio for you. If they wanted to scam you, they'd get you to invest in things that personally profit them, independent of what you're paying them.

There are a lot of rich people in the world, this stuff is all already figured out.

so I won't get scammed?

Infected Mushroom wrote:

Ifreann wrote:They wouldn't be able to just take all your money. You wouldn't be giving someone all your money to invest, you'd be paying someone to make an investment portfolio for you. If they wanted to scam you, they'd get you to invest in things that personally profit them, independent of what you're paying them.

There are a lot of rich people in the world, this stuff is all already figured out.

so I won't get scammed?

You might, but it wouldn't be someone just taking all your money and vanishing.

Unless you give me all your money, then I'll totally do that.

Ifreann wrote:

Infected Mushroom wrote:
so I won't get scammed?

You might, but it wouldn't be someone just taking all your money and vanishing.

Unless you give me all your money, then I'll totally do that.

I see...

I'll do it. I tried smoking once, just to see what it was like, and couldn't inhale it properly...so that'd be a problem.

If I do it in February, it'd only be 28 cigarettes, which isn't so bad since it'd be the only cigarettes I ever plan on smoking in my entire life. As for getting addicted? I don't see it happening. Addiction absolutely runs in my family but the more I drink, the more I hate it, and since I hate the feeling of smoke in my lungs, I don't see that being an issue. Plus I'm against smoking in general (unless you're offering me 2 million to do it for 30ish days.)

After a month of smoking, all I have to do is to let my excessive apathy take over and goodbye student loan!

Ifreann wrote:

Infected Mushroom wrote:
so I won't get scammed?

You might, but it wouldn't be someone just taking all your money and vanishing.

Unless you give me all your money, then I'll totally do that.

but you would bring dishonour upon Ireland if you did so...

Ha ha! I will take the 2 million and gamble my health away, easy choice for me.

It's a good thread question too, by the way. Cheers for coming up with it.

I like to think it would be easier to quit than it probably is, but health is not worth that much to me anyway. At least not at this time in life.

1 cigarette a day for 30 days and I win 2 million ???

No prob mate !

Infected Mushroom wrote:Please consider the following very simple hypothetical:

Someone offers to pay you 2 million dollars. But only if you smoke a certain number of standard nicotine content cigarettes.

If you are a non-smoker you must smoke 1 cigarette every single day for a whole month.

If you are already a smoker, you must smoke 10 cigarettes every single day for a whole month (if you already do that, then smoke 20 cigarettes every single day for a whole month if you actually already smoke 20 cigarettes every day then... I don't believe you).

Assume that you can legally purchase cigarettes in this scenario regardless of age.

The money will only be paid to you if at the final completion of the task at the end of the month.

Please discuss whether or not you would accept the challenge (as a current non-smoker or smoker) and whether or not you believe you will be able to quit afterwards.

^

Very obviously, by smoking, it means that you have to inhale the cigarettes like a regular smoker

As a non smoker, I would accept the challenge but at the cost of my health for the rest of my life. Quitting and shows of will are not my strength. But I guess that's the price for 2 mil.

Absolutely.
I smoked cigarettes for 3 years, and then, once I could legally smoke weed in my state, quit cold turkey.

I went from about a pack a week to maybe a 1 cigarette every 2-3 weeks to straight quitting (outside of super stressful situations, like a family member dying where I will sometimes smoke part of a cigarette if offered to me).

Forlania wrote:

Infected Mushroom wrote:Please consider the following very simple hypothetical:

Someone offers to pay you 2 million dollars. But only if you smoke a certain number of standard nicotine content cigarettes.

If you are a non-smoker you must smoke 1 cigarette every single day for a whole month.

If you are already a smoker, you must smoke 10 cigarettes every single day for a whole month (if you already do that, then smoke 20 cigarettes every single day for a whole month if you actually already smoke 20 cigarettes every day then... I don't believe you).

Assume that you can legally purchase cigarettes in this scenario regardless of age.

The money will only be paid to you if at the final completion of the task at the end of the month.

Please discuss whether or not you would accept the challenge (as a current non-smoker or smoker) and whether or not you believe you will be able to quit afterwards.

^

Very obviously, by smoking, it means that you have to inhale the cigarettes like a regular smoker

As a non smoker, I would accept the challenge but at the cost of my health for the rest of my life. Quitting and shows of will are not my strength. But I guess that's the price for 2 mil.

Absolutely.
I smoked cigarettes for 3 years, and then, once I could legally smoke weed in my state, quit cold turkey.

I went from about a pack a week to maybe a 1 cigarette every 2-3 weeks to straight quitting (outside of super stressful situations, like a family member dying where I will sometimes smoke part of a cigarette if offered to me).

I see...

you find that weed tastes better?

Infected Mushroom wrote:

Forlania wrote:Absolutely.
I smoked cigarettes for 3 years, and then, once I could legally smoke weed in my state, quit cold turkey.

I went from about a pack a week to maybe a 1 cigarette every 2-3 weeks to straight quitting (outside of super stressful situations, like a family member dying where I will sometimes smoke part of a cigarette if offered to me).

I see...

you find that weed tastes better?

Weed absolutely tastes better but that is far from the only reason.
Smoking tobacco noticeably impacted my stamina, sense of smell, taste, etc.
While simply due to the amount I smoke weed, I imagine I still have some of these effects, it's much much milder (probably because of the lack of additives comparatively).

Ultimately I was drug tested for 2 of the 3 years I smoked cigarettes and was unable to smoke weed, which in turn caused me to smoke cigs much more than I did before. Before the drug testing, I smoked about a pack a month, which compared to pretty much every current cigarette smoker I know, is pretty infrequently.

It was more about the act of smoking for me than the actual physiological effects of Nicotine.

& while it's unrelated to my quitting of cigs (at least I think so) marijuana normalizes me a lot more. I was diagnosed with mild Aspergers a couple years ago, and marijuana helps me feel more level headed, even if it's a lateral move in terms of "normalcy."
Without it I'm much more anxious, self conscious, and generally overthink social interactions.
With it I find myself not only more creative, but less high strung & also able to maintain a more laid-back personality. I also find myself more empathetic when I'm high, and while I feel I'm generally aware of social cues & other peoples emotions, the THC high makes me care more about other peoples thoughts/feelings.

Lanoraie II wrote:I'll do it. I tried smoking once, just to see what it was like, and couldn't inhale it properly...so that'd be a problem.

Same here.