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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2019 9:01 pm
by Ifreann
Infected Mushroom wrote:
NeoOasis wrote:I'd smoke a pack a week for a month if it meant getting 2 million dollars. Quitting would be easy, though getting the smell off me would be merry hell... still worth it though.


is it strange that I like the smell of gunpowder but cannot stand the smell of cigarettes?

Yes.

PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2019 9:07 pm
by Infected Mushroom
Ifreann wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
is it strange that I like the smell of gunpowder but cannot stand the smell of cigarettes?

Yes.


whenever I walk by places where fireworks have gone off I'm thinking: "this is Wonderful"

not so much with cigarette second hand smoke; its kind of sickening really

what a contrast, why is this?

PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2019 12:16 am
by Page
Infected Mushroom wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Yes.


whenever I walk by places where fireworks have gone off I'm thinking: "this is Wonderful"

not so much with cigarette second hand smoke; its kind of sickening really

what a contrast, why is this?


Even smokers don't like secondhand smoke. I liked the taste of cigarettes when I smoked, I liked the sensation of inhaling, but sometimes the smokers' area was just too damn smokey.

It's kind of like how a lot of people like onions but the smell of 20 raw onions chopped up is awful.

PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2019 1:43 am
by Infected Mushroom
Page wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
whenever I walk by places where fireworks have gone off I'm thinking: "this is Wonderful"

not so much with cigarette second hand smoke; its kind of sickening really

what a contrast, why is this?


Even smokers don't like secondhand smoke. I liked the taste of cigarettes when I smoked, I liked the sensation of inhaling, but sometimes the smokers' area was just too damn smokey.

It's kind of like how a lot of people like onions but the smell of 20 raw onions chopped up is awful.


I see...

This makes sense

By the way, I don’t like onions

PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2019 1:44 am
by Infected Mushroom
The Foxes Swamp wrote:I have been rolling my own smokes for at least 30 years and the amount varies, last year i was in hospital for 10 days and did not smoke at all during that time, so i could do it easily.


Can you reduce the daily smokes to the previous level after?

PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2019 1:49 am
by Chan Island
On the one hand, I passionately hate smoking so my instincts tell me to reject this challenge.

On the other hand, 2 million is a hell of an incentive. It is very tempting.

So I genuinely don't know. Interesting. :)

PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2019 4:01 am
by The Blaatschapen
Chan Island wrote:On the one hand, I passionately hate smoking so my instincts tell me to reject this challenge.

On the other hand, 2 million is a hell of an incentive. It is very tempting.

So I genuinely don't know. Interesting. :)


For how much would you genuinely know it (both the "I won't" and "I will")?

PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2019 7:07 am
by The Foxes Swamp
Infected Mushroom wrote:
The Foxes Swamp wrote:I have been rolling my own smokes for at least 30 years and the amount varies, last year i was in hospital for 10 days and did not smoke at all during that time, so i could do it easily.


Can you reduce the daily smokes to the previous level after?



everything you do is a choice, so sure.

PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2019 7:33 pm
by NeoOasis
Infected Mushroom wrote:
NeoOasis wrote:I'd smoke a pack a week for a month if it meant getting 2 million dollars. Quitting would be easy, though getting the smell off me would be merry hell... still worth it though.


is it strange that I like the smell of gunpowder but cannot stand the smell of cigarettes?


Nah. I'm honestly not a fan of cigarette smoke or burnt tire, but gunpowder is alright. I can sort of see where you are coming from.

PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2019 8:15 pm
by Chernoslavia
Absolutely. I wouldn’t get addicted, in fact I probably smoked more Cubans than that. And these are Cuban cigars mind you. Then I’d invest some of the money on stocks and set myself up for life and then I can finally fulfill my long awaited dream.... :twisted:

PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2019 8:18 pm
by Infected Mushroom
The Foxes Swamp wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
Can you reduce the daily smokes to the previous level after?



everything you do is a choice, so sure.


even addiction?

PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2019 8:21 pm
by Chernoslavia
Infected Mushroom wrote:
The Foxes Swamp wrote:

everything you do is a choice, so sure.


even addiction?


I’m not sure if people can easily get addicted just for smoking 30 cigarettes in a month.

PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2019 8:27 pm
by Infected Mushroom
Chernoslavia wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
even addiction?


I’m not sure if people can easily get addicted just for smoking 30 cigarettes in a month.


i thought you could easily get addicted from smoking randomly at lunch with friends every other day (like not even every one every day of the month but one in a few days)

and the danger is that on a given day you might decide, "I'm going to do more than 1" so then by the 30th day you've smoked a lot more you know?

PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2019 10:32 pm
by The Foxes Swamp
Infected Mushroom wrote:
The Foxes Swamp wrote:

everything you do is a choice, so sure.


even addiction?


i cannot say beating addiction is easy but it can be beaten.

its about willpower.

PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:48 pm
by Infected Mushroom
The Foxes Swamp wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
even addiction?


i cannot say beating addiction is easy but it can be beaten.

its about willpower.


I see...

Personally, outside of video games, feats of willpower have never been my strong suit

so even if I did the challenge, I likely would not prevail vs addiction

PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2019 1:24 am
by The Grims
Infected Mushroom wrote:
The Foxes Swamp wrote:
i cannot say beating addiction is easy but it can be beaten.

its about willpower.


I see...

Personally, outside of video games, feats of willpower have never been my strong suit

so even if I did the challenge, I likely would not prevail vs addiction

A million dollars will get you quite a lot of help with that.
And still leave another million in your account.

PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2019 4:07 am
by The Foxes Swamp
Infected Mushroom wrote:
The Foxes Swamp wrote:
i cannot say beating addiction is easy but it can be beaten.

its about willpower.


I see...

Personally, outside of video games, feats of willpower have never been my strong suit

so even if I did the challenge, I likely would not prevail vs addiction



when it comes to smoking i do not think you would be addicted under these conditions but even if you were you should be able to stop smoking one, its not like you are taking heroin.

PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2019 5:03 am
by Jetan
Hell yeah I'd do it. Quitting afterwards might take some doing but I believe I would be capable of it, and 2 mil is enough money that I can live comfortably for the rest of my life without having to work a day if I don't want to.

PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2019 5:23 am
by Infected Mushroom
Jetan wrote:Hell yeah I'd do it. Quitting afterwards might take some doing but I believe I would be capable of it, and 2 mil is enough money that I can live comfortably for the rest of my life without having to work a day if I don't want to.


The no work part makes it really tempting indeed

Being oppressed in some office is undoubtedly worse for your health then smoking

PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2019 5:54 am
by Jetan
Infected Mushroom wrote:
Jetan wrote:Hell yeah I'd do it. Quitting afterwards might take some doing but I believe I would be capable of it, and 2 mil is enough money that I can live comfortably for the rest of my life without having to work a day if I don't want to.


The no work part makes it really tempting indeed

Being oppressed in some office is undoubtedly worse for your health then smoking

And even if not, I could die several years earlier than I would without the deal and still win on time I have for actual living if work won't take my time anymore.

PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2019 6:24 am
by Infected Mushroom
Jetan wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
The no work part makes it really tempting indeed

Being oppressed in some office is undoubtedly worse for your health then smoking

And even if not, I could die several years earlier than I would without the deal and still win on time I have for actual living if work won't take my time anymore.


Indeed

Many jobs have been described variously as incarnations of "modern slavery"

PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2019 6:47 am
by Diopolis
Jetan wrote:Hell yeah I'd do it. Quitting afterwards might take some doing but I believe I would be capable of it, and 2 mil is enough money that I can live comfortably for the rest of my life without having to work a day if I don't want to.

A straight 2 million? Probably not. 2 million with smart investing? Definitely.

PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2019 6:58 am
by Jetan
Diopolis wrote:
Jetan wrote:Hell yeah I'd do it. Quitting afterwards might take some doing but I believe I would be capable of it, and 2 mil is enough money that I can live comfortably for the rest of my life without having to work a day if I don't want to.

A straight 2 million? Probably not. 2 million with smart investing? Definitely.

2 million straight would absolutely be enough. 2 million dollars is ~ 1750000 euros. I'm 27 now, let's say I'll live for another 60 years until I'm 87. 1750000/60 is 29 166 and change. That's about 5000 more a year than I currently make working full time. And that's before pensions, investing (because you'd be insane not to invest some money in that situation), etc.

PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2019 7:01 am
by The Blaatschapen
Jetan wrote:
Diopolis wrote:A straight 2 million? Probably not. 2 million with smart investing? Definitely.

2 million straight would absolutely be enough. 2 million dollars is ~ 1750000 euros. I'm 27 now, let's say I'll live for another 60 years until I'm 87. 1750000/60 is 29 166 and change. That's about 5000 more a year than I currently make working full time. And that's before pensions, investing (because you'd be insane not to invest some money in that situation), etc.


Indeed. And the only two other dangers (besides investment risk) are: inflation and a steep decline of the value of the euro (eg. through bankruptcy of the ECB).

The latter is quite hard to do. The former is a given, but anything below 3%/year ought to be manageable.

PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2019 7:02 am
by Jetan
The blAAtschApen wrote:
Jetan wrote:2 million straight would absolutely be enough. 2 million dollars is ~ 1750000 euros. I'm 27 now, let's say I'll live for another 60 years until I'm 87. 1750000/60 is 29 166 and change. That's about 5000 more a year than I currently make working full time. And that's before pensions, investing (because you'd be insane not to invest some money in that situation), etc.


Indeed. And the only two other dangers (besides investment risk) are: inflation and a steep decline of the value of the euro (eg. through bankruptcy of the ECB).

The latter is quite hard to do. The former is a given, but anything below 3%/year ought to be manageable.

Exactly.