Smoker's Money

[The New California Republic]

Smoke the cigarettes but don't inhale. Sure, it doesn't completely stop the risk, but it significantly lessens the chances of addiction.

IM said you can’t do that.

Did he? Alright.

But then again, I really don't see how anyone would be able to tell that I was doing that...?

[Gun Manufacturers]

As a non smoker, I'd do it. Of course, I wouldn't ACTIVELY smoke the cigarette, but just let it burn as I hold the cigarette in my mouth. When I'd need to take a breath, I'd pull the cigarette from my mouth and turn my head.

Unless in the latest of your wierd hypotheticals, you'd implant a carbon monoxide detector into my lungs.

then you haven't "smoked" the cigarette in the common sense every day meaning of the word

that's simply "lighting" a cigarette

Again, unless there's a carbon monoxide detector implanted into my lungs, the person offering the money wouldn't be any the wiser.

[Ifreann]

Smoke the cigarettes but don't inhale. Sure, it doesn't completely stop the risk, but it significantly lessens the chances of addiction.

IM said you can’t do that.

IM said that you can't light them and then just let them burn out*. But not inhaling the smoke into your lungs is still smoking. That's how you smoke cigars.


*I don't know about the US, but I'm pretty sure that cigarettes in Europe don't do this any more. They self-extinguish if you stop puffing on them. EU safety regulations. I think.

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and people really can smoke an entire pack a day?

isn't that insane?

Umm, yes, its easy and delicious.

The real heroes are the people smoking 60 a day.

[The New California Republic]

then you haven't "smoked" the cigarette in the common sense every day meaning of the word

that's simply "lighting" a cigarette

You can hold the smoke in your mouth without inhaling it, as is done when smoking cigars. And that is exactly what I would do in this scenario. For someone to cry foul and say that "you are not actually smoking it!!!!!1111" would be categorically wrong.

[Diopolis]

I'd do it and try to quit afterwards.

[The New California Republic]

I'd do it and try to quit afterwards.

The chances of addiction if you don't inhale are negligible; especially if it is only 1 cigarette a day.

[NeuPolska]

I can smoke like 5 cigarettes a day for a span of a good few days and then stop completely

I am a non-smoker though I guess because it never became a habit nor a thing I really did.

I tried it, I did like it, but I don’t feel any urge to smoke another cig

This is incredibly easy money

[Diopolis]

I'd do it and try to quit afterwards.

The chances of addiction if you don't inhale are negligible; especially if it is only 1 cigarette a day.

Oh yes, but still there. And although I'm a semi-regular cigar smoker, I would very much like to avoid cigarettes. Just not 2-million-dollars-very-much-like-to-avoid.

[Adad Civilization]

You call this a challenge OP? 1 Cigarette a day for a measly month? Hah, pathetic. I'll give you a real challenge. For 4 million dollars, you must wear shoes filled with legos for a week.

[Thermodolia]

You call this a challenge OP? 1 Cigarette a day for a measly month? Hah, pathetic. I'll give you a real challenge. For 4 million dollars, you must wear shoes filled with legos for a week.

That’s just evil and a quite possibly a crime against humanity. Don’t worry the Hauge has been notified

[NeuPolska]

You call this a challenge OP? 1 Cigarette a day for a measly month? Hah, pathetic. I'll give you a real challenge. For 4 million dollars, you must wear shoes filled with legos for a week.

>be me
>have to ruck march several miles
>followed by an intense physical activity running around between trees for 15 hours
>mfw now I have to deal with legos being in my boots

[The New California Republic]

The chances of addiction if you don't inhale are negligible; especially if it is only 1 cigarette a day.

Oh yes, but still there. And although I'm a semi-regular cigar smoker, I would very much like to avoid cigarettes. Just not 2-million-dollars-very-much-like-to-avoid.

I actually feel like asking the OP if switching to them would be possible, as being given some Montecristos or Cohibas gratis for a month would be fine by me.

[The Two Jerseys]

then you haven't "smoked" the cigarette in the common sense every day meaning of the word

that's simply "lighting" a cigarette

You can hold the smoke in your mouth without inhaling it, as is done when smoking cigars. And that is exactly what I would do in this scenario. For someone to cry foul and say that "you are not actually smoking it!!!!!1111" would be categorically wrong.

And that still doesn't prevent you from using a cigarette holder stuffed full of filters either.

[The Rich Port]

Also, shit, I failed the challenge didn't I.

I shoulda said it would be the hardest thing in the world and it'll probably give me super-cancer and I woulda gotten paid by someone huh.

Dammit.

[-Ocelot-]

I'd do it and try to quit afterwards.

For addicts, the word "try" means "I will fail and I know it".

[The Blaatschapen]

What surprisingly is to me is how many people are using the word "moral", to describe smoking or not smoking.

There are plenty of excellent reasons not to smoke, Good vs. Evil is not one of them. That some would consider smoking a moral issue I find pretty fucked up.

It can be one, if one considers their usage of natural resources a moral issue (ie. don't wast resources on a frivolous thing that brings no joy, and is generally harmful). However, 30 cigarettes is negligible. From the 2 million euro, one can easily fund an ecological organization to offset the frivolous use there.

[The New California Republic]

What surprisingly is to me is how many people are using the word "moral", to describe smoking or not smoking.

There are plenty of excellent reasons not to smoke, Good vs. Evil is not one of them. That some would consider smoking a moral issue I find pretty fucked up.

It can be one, if one considers their usage of natural resources a moral issue (ie. don't wast resources on a frivolous thing that brings no joy, and is generally harmful). However, 30 cigarettes is negligible. From the 2 million euro, one can easily fund an ecological organization to offset the frivolous use there.

This site estimates that it costs between one dollar and three dollars to plant one tree. Using the middle of the road estimate, you could plant a million trees with that 2 million. I think that is a brilliant trade-off.

[Scomagia]

Sure, I'd do it. I already smoke half a pack a day. Sometimes, though OP won't believe me, I smoke a pack in a day.

[Esternial]

Sure.

One of the principal reasons why I don't smoke more than I do is because it's way too expensive. I typically stick to 5-ish cigarettes a day, so I blow through 2-3 packs a week (incl. handouts).

I might have more money after it's all done, sure, but I can't bring myself to spend a lot more on cigarettes.

[The Republic of Fore]

As many others have said, I'd simply just hold the smoke in my mouth. I'd take the two million, and after buying a few luxury items invest it. Turn it into 4. Then 8. And so on.

[Infected Mushroom]

then you haven't "smoked" the cigarette in the common sense every day meaning of the word

that's simply "lighting" a cigarette

Again, unless there's a carbon monoxide detector implanted into my lungs, the person offering the money wouldn't be any the wiser.

that's not really the point of the scenario; the premise is that the person only gives you the money if the terms are met, they'll have some way of knowing for sure, the OP doesn't have to write it out specifically

again, if you're out to cheat you'll always find "some way" but that's not the point

for instance:

"you said smoke, the cigarette... not inhale the cigarette; technically maybe I can only put it in mouth"

change to inhale*

"you said inhale, so I'll just inhale once"

change to inhale in good faith*/often*

"so then I can do it three times a day, 1 lit cigarette 3 inhales its not so bad-"

...

I'm not here to play some kind of lawyers game, the OP shouldn't have to be worded like a business contract with a shady partner and no courtroom precedents (presumably, you all have some idea what the purposes of these hypotheticals are and how they're supposed to work); I don't want to have to Edit the OP a thousand times or keep adding words to it to close every single loophole until its longer than a merger document

I'm trying to assume some Good Faith on the part of the posters

[Infected Mushroom]

As many others have said, I'd simply just hold the smoke in my mouth. I'd take the two million, and after buying a few luxury items invest it. Turn it into 4. Then 8. And so on.

then you ain't really "smoking" it in the ordinary sense of the word

[Scomagia]

Again, unless there's a carbon monoxide detector implanted into my lungs, the person offering the money wouldn't be any the wiser.

that's not really the point of the scenario; the premise is that the person only gives you the money if the terms are met, they'll have some way of knowing for sure, the OP doesn't have to write it out specifically

again, if you're out to cheat you'll always find "some way" but that's not the point

for instance:

"you said smoke, the cigarette... not inhale the cigarette; technically maybe I can only put it in mouth"

change to inhale*

"you said inhale, so I'll just inhale once"

change to inhale in good faith*/often*

"so then I can do it three times a day, 1 lit cigarette 3 inhales its not so bad-"

...

I'm not here to play some kind of lawyers game, the OP shouldn't have to be worded like a business contract with a shady partner and no courtroom precedents (presumably, you all have some idea what the purposes of these hypotheticals are and how they're supposed to work); I don't want to have to Edit the OP a thousand times or keep adding words to it to close every single loophole until its longer than a merger document

I'm trying to assume some Good Faith on the part of the posters

That's the nature of hypotheticals, dude, and really part of the fun.

[Infected Mushroom]

That is insane to me. Long term smoking would put you at a higher risk, one pack just won't do it in the same way you're not going to develop skin cancer from having once been exposed to sunlight. That's an absurdly tiny additional assumption of risk. Do you refuse X-Rays? Do you refuse to get in cars?

The problem is I doubt the average persons willpower to only smoke one a day

I definitely will not have the willpower

I'll probably take 1 cigarette for 2 days before literally starting to up it to 2+ a day

by week 1.5 it will be like 6-7

so this is very dangerous for me personally

[Infected Mushroom]

that's not really the point of the scenario; the premise is that the person only gives you the money if the terms are met, they'll have some way of knowing for sure, the OP doesn't have to write it out specifically

again, if you're out to cheat you'll always find "some way" but that's not the point

for instance:

"you said smoke, the cigarette... not inhale the cigarette; technically maybe I can only put it in mouth"

change to inhale*

"you said inhale, so I'll just inhale once"

change to inhale in good faith*/often*

"so then I can do it three times a day, 1 lit cigarette 3 inhales its not so bad-"

...

I'm not here to play some kind of lawyers game, the OP shouldn't have to be worded like a business contract with a shady partner and no courtroom precedents (presumably, you all have some idea what the purposes of these hypotheticals are and how they're supposed to work); I don't want to have to Edit the OP a thousand times or keep adding words to it to close every single loophole until its longer than a merger document

I'm trying to assume some Good Faith on the part of the posters

That's the nature of hypotheticals, dude, and really part of the fun.

that's like saying in the trolley problem:

"well I'll install a machine that will cause both trolleys to stop. YOU NEVER SPECIFIED ITS NOT SET IN A FUTURE WHERE SUCH A THING EXISTS."

there's a difference between a creative and fair solution (ex "I will take the challenge, but conditional on me first undergoing some preliminary Addiction Training with a friend in the police narcs... if I fail that moc training, I'm not touching this) and one clearly meant to violate the spirit of the ethical dilemma

things like:

"I will attack the person and simply steal the 2 million... I will pretend to smoke..."

Yeah no