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Would you do the challenge for 2 million? Would you be able to quit after?

As a current Non-Smoker, I would do the challenge, then I would easily quit after (easy money, I'm strong)
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As a current Non-Smoker, I would do the challenge, but I will probably be unable to quit after (2 million for a long time of smoking)
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As a current Non-Smoker, I would do the challenge, I won't be able to quit but I wouldn't even want to (smoking is cool)
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As a current Non-Smoker, I wouldn't do the challenge, this is Exploitation and I hope the person offering the money Burns
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As a current Smoker, I would do the challenge, afterwards I would be able to quit (quitting is easy, I've done it often (and returned))
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As a current Smoker, I would do the challenge, afterwards, I would continue to smoke 10 to 20 cigarettes every day with a sigh in my heart
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As a current Smoker, I would do the challenge, however, I think realistically I could go back to my previous smoking quota with effort
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As a current Smoker, I wouldn't do the challenge, this is Exploitation, I wish the person offering the money would Burn
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1%
I already smoke 20 cigarettes every day (OP doesn't believe me)
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Fri Jan 18, 2019 7:11 am

Diopolis wrote:
Jetan wrote:Hell yeah I'd do it. Quitting afterwards might take some doing but I believe I would be capable of it, and 2 mil is enough money that I can live comfortably for the rest of my life without having to work a day if I don't want to.

A straight 2 million? Probably not. 2 million with smart investing? Definitely.


Me and Smart Investing are mutually exclusive.

If you give me 3 billion dollars I would probably still manage to lose most of it somehow.

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Postby The Blaatschapen » Fri Jan 18, 2019 7:14 am

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Diopolis wrote:A straight 2 million? Probably not. 2 million with smart investing? Definitely.


Me and Smart Investing are mutually exclusive.

If you give me 3 billion dollars I would probably still manage to lose most of it somehow.


At 3 billion dollars you hire someone to do it for you ;)

Heck, at two million, getting an agency to handle certain specifics might already be worthwhile.
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Postby Diopolis » Fri Jan 18, 2019 7:14 am

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Diopolis wrote:A straight 2 million? Probably not. 2 million with smart investing? Definitely.


Me and Smart Investing are mutually exclusive.

If you give me 3 billion dollars I would probably still manage to lose most of it somehow.

Give old Dio a call if someone gives you 3 billion dollars. You'll need help finding an asset manager.
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Fri Jan 18, 2019 7:15 am

The blAAtschApen wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
Me and Smart Investing are mutually exclusive.

If you give me 3 billion dollars I would probably still manage to lose most of it somehow.


At 3 billion dollars you hire someone to do it for you ;)

Heck, at two million, getting an agency to handle certain specifics might already be worthwhile.


with my luck and judgement, I'll probably accidentally hire someone who runs away with most of it and disappears

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Postby Infected Mushroom » Fri Jan 18, 2019 7:15 am

Diopolis wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
Me and Smart Investing are mutually exclusive.

If you give me 3 billion dollars I would probably still manage to lose most of it somehow.

Give old Dio a call if someone gives you 3 billion dollars. You'll need help finding an asset manager.


I see...

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Postby The Blaatschapen » Fri Jan 18, 2019 7:19 am

Infected Mushroom wrote:
The blAAtschApen wrote:
At 3 billion dollars you hire someone to do it for you ;)

Heck, at two million, getting an agency to handle certain specifics might already be worthwhile.


with my luck and judgement, I'll probably accidentally hire someone who runs away with most of it and disappears


Don't trust Diopolis. Trust the Blaatschapen instead.
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Fri Jan 18, 2019 7:24 am

The blAAtschApen wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
with my luck and judgement, I'll probably accidentally hire someone who runs away with most of it and disappears


Don't trust Diopolis. Trust the Blaatschapen instead.


What’s going on here

Why this sudden interest ?

Y’all like this asset management work?

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Postby The Blaatschapen » Fri Jan 18, 2019 7:25 am

Infected Mushroom wrote:
The blAAtschApen wrote:
Don't trust Diopolis. Trust the Blaatschapen instead.


What’s going on here

Why this sudden interest ?

Y’all like this asset management work?


I like handling 3 billion dollars, yes :)
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Postby The Alma Mater » Fri Jan 18, 2019 7:30 am

The blAAtschApen wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
What’s going on here

Why this sudden interest ?

Y’all like this asset management work?


I like handling 3 billion dollars, yes :)

Donate it to Trump and become a hero of the American people :P ?
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Postby The Blaatschapen » Fri Jan 18, 2019 7:36 am

The Alma Mater wrote:
The blAAtschApen wrote:
I like handling 3 billion dollars, yes :)

Donate it to Trump and become a hero of the American people :P ?


I live in Berlin. I'm not a big fan of building walls.

That said, I do like to become a hero of the American people.

Well, one American person actually.

Okay, Katy Perry :blush:
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Postby Ifreann » Fri Jan 18, 2019 7:36 am

Infected Mushroom wrote:
The blAAtschApen wrote:
At 3 billion dollars you hire someone to do it for you ;)

Heck, at two million, getting an agency to handle certain specifics might already be worthwhile.


with my luck and judgement, I'll probably accidentally hire someone who runs away with most of it and disappears

It wouldn't be difficult to find someone who would have a legal duty to act in your best financial interests.
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Fri Jan 18, 2019 8:05 am

Ifreann wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
with my luck and judgement, I'll probably accidentally hire someone who runs away with most of it and disappears

It wouldn't be difficult to find someone who would have a legal duty to act in your best financial interests.


what if they take the money, run away with it, and then live under a new identity in a country with no extradition?

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Postby Ifreann » Fri Jan 18, 2019 8:35 am

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Ifreann wrote:It wouldn't be difficult to find someone who would have a legal duty to act in your best financial interests.


what if they take the money, run away with it, and then live under a new identity in a country with no extradition?

They wouldn't be able to just take all your money. You wouldn't be giving someone all your money to invest, you'd be paying someone to make an investment portfolio for you. If they wanted to scam you, they'd get you to invest in things that personally profit them, independent of what you're paying them.

There are a lot of rich people in the world, this stuff is all already figured out.
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Fri Jan 18, 2019 8:52 am

Ifreann wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
what if they take the money, run away with it, and then live under a new identity in a country with no extradition?

They wouldn't be able to just take all your money. You wouldn't be giving someone all your money to invest, you'd be paying someone to make an investment portfolio for you. If they wanted to scam you, they'd get you to invest in things that personally profit them, independent of what you're paying them.

There are a lot of rich people in the world, this stuff is all already figured out.


so I won't get scammed?

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Postby Ifreann » Fri Jan 18, 2019 8:58 am

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Ifreann wrote:They wouldn't be able to just take all your money. You wouldn't be giving someone all your money to invest, you'd be paying someone to make an investment portfolio for you. If they wanted to scam you, they'd get you to invest in things that personally profit them, independent of what you're paying them.

There are a lot of rich people in the world, this stuff is all already figured out.


so I won't get scammed?

You might, but it wouldn't be someone just taking all your money and vanishing.

Unless you give me all your money, then I'll totally do that.
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Fri Jan 18, 2019 9:00 am

Ifreann wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
so I won't get scammed?

You might, but it wouldn't be someone just taking all your money and vanishing.

Unless you give me all your money, then I'll totally do that.


I see...

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Postby Lanoraie II » Mon Jan 21, 2019 1:52 am

I'll do it. I tried smoking once, just to see what it was like, and couldn't inhale it properly...so that'd be a problem.

If I do it in February, it'd only be 28 cigarettes, which isn't so bad since it'd be the only cigarettes I ever plan on smoking in my entire life. As for getting addicted? I don't see it happening. Addiction absolutely runs in my family but the more I drink, the more I hate it, and since I hate the feeling of smoke in my lungs, I don't see that being an issue. Plus I'm against smoking in general (unless you're offering me 2 million to do it for 30ish days.)
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Postby Grand Unity of the Righteous Nation Cele » Mon Jan 21, 2019 5:35 am

After a month of smoking, all I have to do is to let my excessive apathy take over and goodbye student loan!
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Mon Jan 21, 2019 5:37 am

Ifreann wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
so I won't get scammed?

You might, but it wouldn't be someone just taking all your money and vanishing.

Unless you give me all your money, then I'll totally do that.


but you would bring dishonour upon Ireland if you did so...

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Postby Noel » Mon Jan 21, 2019 5:43 am

Ha ha! I will take the 2 million and gamble my health away, easy choice for me.

It's a good thread question too, by the way. Cheers for coming up with it.

I like to think it would be easier to quit than it probably is, but health is not worth that much to me anyway. At least not at this time in life.

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Postby Merther » Mon Jan 21, 2019 5:46 am

1 cigarette a day for 30 days and I win 2 million ???

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Postby Forlania » Wed Jan 23, 2019 10:00 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:Please consider the following very simple hypothetical:

Someone offers to pay you 2 million dollars. But only if you smoke a certain number of standard nicotine content cigarettes.

If you are a non-smoker you must smoke 1 cigarette every single day for a whole month.

If you are already a smoker, you must smoke 10 cigarettes every single day for a whole month (if you already do that, then smoke 20 cigarettes every single day for a whole month if you actually already smoke 20 cigarettes every day then... I don't believe you).

Assume that you can legally purchase cigarettes in this scenario regardless of age.

The money will only be paid to you if at the final completion of the task at the end of the month.

Please discuss whether or not you would accept the challenge (as a current non-smoker or smoker) and whether or not you believe you will be able to quit afterwards.

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Very obviously, by smoking, it means that you have to inhale the cigarettes like a regular smoker

As a non smoker, I would accept the challenge but at the cost of my health for the rest of my life. Quitting and shows of will are not my strength. But I guess that's the price for 2 mil.

Absolutely.
I smoked cigarettes for 3 years, and then, once I could legally smoke weed in my state, quit cold turkey.

I went from about a pack a week to maybe a 1 cigarette every 2-3 weeks to straight quitting (outside of super stressful situations, like a family member dying where I will sometimes smoke part of a cigarette if offered to me).
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Wed Jan 23, 2019 10:35 pm

Forlania wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:Please consider the following very simple hypothetical:

Someone offers to pay you 2 million dollars. But only if you smoke a certain number of standard nicotine content cigarettes.

If you are a non-smoker you must smoke 1 cigarette every single day for a whole month.

If you are already a smoker, you must smoke 10 cigarettes every single day for a whole month (if you already do that, then smoke 20 cigarettes every single day for a whole month if you actually already smoke 20 cigarettes every day then... I don't believe you).

Assume that you can legally purchase cigarettes in this scenario regardless of age.

The money will only be paid to you if at the final completion of the task at the end of the month.

Please discuss whether or not you would accept the challenge (as a current non-smoker or smoker) and whether or not you believe you will be able to quit afterwards.

^

Very obviously, by smoking, it means that you have to inhale the cigarettes like a regular smoker

As a non smoker, I would accept the challenge but at the cost of my health for the rest of my life. Quitting and shows of will are not my strength. But I guess that's the price for 2 mil.

Absolutely.
I smoked cigarettes for 3 years, and then, once I could legally smoke weed in my state, quit cold turkey.

I went from about a pack a week to maybe a 1 cigarette every 2-3 weeks to straight quitting (outside of super stressful situations, like a family member dying where I will sometimes smoke part of a cigarette if offered to me).


I see...

you find that weed tastes better?

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Postby Forlania » Wed Jan 23, 2019 10:51 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Forlania wrote:Absolutely.
I smoked cigarettes for 3 years, and then, once I could legally smoke weed in my state, quit cold turkey.

I went from about a pack a week to maybe a 1 cigarette every 2-3 weeks to straight quitting (outside of super stressful situations, like a family member dying where I will sometimes smoke part of a cigarette if offered to me).


I see...

you find that weed tastes better?

Weed absolutely tastes better but that is far from the only reason.
Smoking tobacco noticeably impacted my stamina, sense of smell, taste, etc.
While simply due to the amount I smoke weed, I imagine I still have some of these effects, it's much much milder (probably because of the lack of additives comparatively).

Ultimately I was drug tested for 2 of the 3 years I smoked cigarettes and was unable to smoke weed, which in turn caused me to smoke cigs much more than I did before. Before the drug testing, I smoked about a pack a month, which compared to pretty much every current cigarette smoker I know, is pretty infrequently.

It was more about the act of smoking for me than the actual physiological effects of Nicotine.

& while it's unrelated to my quitting of cigs (at least I think so) marijuana normalizes me a lot more. I was diagnosed with mild Aspergers a couple years ago, and marijuana helps me feel more level headed, even if it's a lateral move in terms of "normalcy."
Without it I'm much more anxious, self conscious, and generally overthink social interactions.
With it I find myself not only more creative, but less high strung & also able to maintain a more laid-back personality. I also find myself more empathetic when I'm high, and while I feel I'm generally aware of social cues & other peoples emotions, the THC high makes me care more about other peoples thoughts/feelings.
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Postby DaleBland » Mon Sep 09, 2019 6:21 am

Lanoraie II wrote:I'll do it. I tried smoking once, just to see what it was like, and couldn't inhale it properly...so that'd be a problem.

Same here.

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