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Would you do the challenge for 2 million? Would you be able to quit after?

As a current Non-Smoker, I would do the challenge, then I would easily quit after (easy money, I'm strong)
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49%
As a current Non-Smoker, I would do the challenge, but I will probably be unable to quit after (2 million for a long time of smoking)
7
6%
As a current Non-Smoker, I would do the challenge, I won't be able to quit but I wouldn't even want to (smoking is cool)
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2%
As a current Non-Smoker, I wouldn't do the challenge, this is Exploitation and I hope the person offering the money Burns
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32%
As a current Smoker, I would do the challenge, afterwards I would be able to quit (quitting is easy, I've done it often (and returned))
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1%
As a current Smoker, I would do the challenge, afterwards, I would continue to smoke 10 to 20 cigarettes every day with a sigh in my heart
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As a current Smoker, I would do the challenge, however, I think realistically I could go back to my previous smoking quota with effort
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4%
As a current Smoker, I wouldn't do the challenge, this is Exploitation, I wish the person offering the money would Burn
1
1%
I already smoke 20 cigarettes every day (OP doesn't believe me)
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5%
 
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Postby Ifreann » Wed Jan 16, 2019 9:01 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:
NeoOasis wrote:I'd smoke a pack a week for a month if it meant getting 2 million dollars. Quitting would be easy, though getting the smell off me would be merry hell... still worth it though.


is it strange that I like the smell of gunpowder but cannot stand the smell of cigarettes?

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Postby Infected Mushroom » Wed Jan 16, 2019 9:07 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
is it strange that I like the smell of gunpowder but cannot stand the smell of cigarettes?

Yes.


whenever I walk by places where fireworks have gone off I'm thinking: "this is Wonderful"

not so much with cigarette second hand smoke; its kind of sickening really

what a contrast, why is this?

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Postby Page » Thu Jan 17, 2019 12:16 am

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Yes.


whenever I walk by places where fireworks have gone off I'm thinking: "this is Wonderful"

not so much with cigarette second hand smoke; its kind of sickening really

what a contrast, why is this?


Even smokers don't like secondhand smoke. I liked the taste of cigarettes when I smoked, I liked the sensation of inhaling, but sometimes the smokers' area was just too damn smokey.

It's kind of like how a lot of people like onions but the smell of 20 raw onions chopped up is awful.
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Thu Jan 17, 2019 1:43 am

Page wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
whenever I walk by places where fireworks have gone off I'm thinking: "this is Wonderful"

not so much with cigarette second hand smoke; its kind of sickening really

what a contrast, why is this?


Even smokers don't like secondhand smoke. I liked the taste of cigarettes when I smoked, I liked the sensation of inhaling, but sometimes the smokers' area was just too damn smokey.

It's kind of like how a lot of people like onions but the smell of 20 raw onions chopped up is awful.


I see...

This makes sense

By the way, I don’t like onions

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Postby Infected Mushroom » Thu Jan 17, 2019 1:44 am

The Foxes Swamp wrote:I have been rolling my own smokes for at least 30 years and the amount varies, last year i was in hospital for 10 days and did not smoke at all during that time, so i could do it easily.


Can you reduce the daily smokes to the previous level after?

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Postby Chan Island » Thu Jan 17, 2019 1:49 am

On the one hand, I passionately hate smoking so my instincts tell me to reject this challenge.

On the other hand, 2 million is a hell of an incentive. It is very tempting.

So I genuinely don't know. Interesting. :)
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Postby The Blaatschapen » Thu Jan 17, 2019 4:01 am

Chan Island wrote:On the one hand, I passionately hate smoking so my instincts tell me to reject this challenge.

On the other hand, 2 million is a hell of an incentive. It is very tempting.

So I genuinely don't know. Interesting. :)


For how much would you genuinely know it (both the "I won't" and "I will")?
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Postby The Foxes Swamp » Thu Jan 17, 2019 7:07 am

Infected Mushroom wrote:
The Foxes Swamp wrote:I have been rolling my own smokes for at least 30 years and the amount varies, last year i was in hospital for 10 days and did not smoke at all during that time, so i could do it easily.


Can you reduce the daily smokes to the previous level after?



everything you do is a choice, so sure.
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Postby NeoOasis » Thu Jan 17, 2019 7:33 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:
NeoOasis wrote:I'd smoke a pack a week for a month if it meant getting 2 million dollars. Quitting would be easy, though getting the smell off me would be merry hell... still worth it though.


is it strange that I like the smell of gunpowder but cannot stand the smell of cigarettes?


Nah. I'm honestly not a fan of cigarette smoke or burnt tire, but gunpowder is alright. I can sort of see where you are coming from.
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Postby Chernoslavia » Thu Jan 17, 2019 8:15 pm

Absolutely. I wouldn’t get addicted, in fact I probably smoked more Cubans than that. And these are Cuban cigars mind you. Then I’d invest some of the money on stocks and set myself up for life and then I can finally fulfill my long awaited dream.... :twisted:
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Thu Jan 17, 2019 8:18 pm

The Foxes Swamp wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
Can you reduce the daily smokes to the previous level after?



everything you do is a choice, so sure.


even addiction?

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Postby Chernoslavia » Thu Jan 17, 2019 8:21 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:
The Foxes Swamp wrote:

everything you do is a choice, so sure.


even addiction?


I’m not sure if people can easily get addicted just for smoking 30 cigarettes in a month.
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Thu Jan 17, 2019 8:27 pm

Chernoslavia wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
even addiction?


I’m not sure if people can easily get addicted just for smoking 30 cigarettes in a month.


i thought you could easily get addicted from smoking randomly at lunch with friends every other day (like not even every one every day of the month but one in a few days)

and the danger is that on a given day you might decide, "I'm going to do more than 1" so then by the 30th day you've smoked a lot more you know?
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Postby The Foxes Swamp » Thu Jan 17, 2019 10:32 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:
The Foxes Swamp wrote:

everything you do is a choice, so sure.


even addiction?


i cannot say beating addiction is easy but it can be beaten.

its about willpower.
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:48 pm

The Foxes Swamp wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
even addiction?


i cannot say beating addiction is easy but it can be beaten.

its about willpower.


I see...

Personally, outside of video games, feats of willpower have never been my strong suit

so even if I did the challenge, I likely would not prevail vs addiction

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Postby The Grims » Fri Jan 18, 2019 1:24 am

Infected Mushroom wrote:
The Foxes Swamp wrote:
i cannot say beating addiction is easy but it can be beaten.

its about willpower.


I see...

Personally, outside of video games, feats of willpower have never been my strong suit

so even if I did the challenge, I likely would not prevail vs addiction

A million dollars will get you quite a lot of help with that.
And still leave another million in your account.

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Postby The Foxes Swamp » Fri Jan 18, 2019 4:07 am

Infected Mushroom wrote:
The Foxes Swamp wrote:
i cannot say beating addiction is easy but it can be beaten.

its about willpower.


I see...

Personally, outside of video games, feats of willpower have never been my strong suit

so even if I did the challenge, I likely would not prevail vs addiction



when it comes to smoking i do not think you would be addicted under these conditions but even if you were you should be able to stop smoking one, its not like you are taking heroin.
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Postby Jetan » Fri Jan 18, 2019 5:03 am

Hell yeah I'd do it. Quitting afterwards might take some doing but I believe I would be capable of it, and 2 mil is enough money that I can live comfortably for the rest of my life without having to work a day if I don't want to.
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Fri Jan 18, 2019 5:23 am

Jetan wrote:Hell yeah I'd do it. Quitting afterwards might take some doing but I believe I would be capable of it, and 2 mil is enough money that I can live comfortably for the rest of my life without having to work a day if I don't want to.


The no work part makes it really tempting indeed

Being oppressed in some office is undoubtedly worse for your health then smoking

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Postby Jetan » Fri Jan 18, 2019 5:54 am

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Jetan wrote:Hell yeah I'd do it. Quitting afterwards might take some doing but I believe I would be capable of it, and 2 mil is enough money that I can live comfortably for the rest of my life without having to work a day if I don't want to.


The no work part makes it really tempting indeed

Being oppressed in some office is undoubtedly worse for your health then smoking

And even if not, I could die several years earlier than I would without the deal and still win on time I have for actual living if work won't take my time anymore.
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Fri Jan 18, 2019 6:24 am

Jetan wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
The no work part makes it really tempting indeed

Being oppressed in some office is undoubtedly worse for your health then smoking

And even if not, I could die several years earlier than I would without the deal and still win on time I have for actual living if work won't take my time anymore.


Indeed

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Postby Diopolis » Fri Jan 18, 2019 6:47 am

Jetan wrote:Hell yeah I'd do it. Quitting afterwards might take some doing but I believe I would be capable of it, and 2 mil is enough money that I can live comfortably for the rest of my life without having to work a day if I don't want to.

A straight 2 million? Probably not. 2 million with smart investing? Definitely.
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Postby Jetan » Fri Jan 18, 2019 6:58 am

Diopolis wrote:
Jetan wrote:Hell yeah I'd do it. Quitting afterwards might take some doing but I believe I would be capable of it, and 2 mil is enough money that I can live comfortably for the rest of my life without having to work a day if I don't want to.

A straight 2 million? Probably not. 2 million with smart investing? Definitely.

2 million straight would absolutely be enough. 2 million dollars is ~ 1750000 euros. I'm 27 now, let's say I'll live for another 60 years until I'm 87. 1750000/60 is 29 166 and change. That's about 5000 more a year than I currently make working full time. And that's before pensions, investing (because you'd be insane not to invest some money in that situation), etc.
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Postby The Blaatschapen » Fri Jan 18, 2019 7:01 am

Jetan wrote:
Diopolis wrote:A straight 2 million? Probably not. 2 million with smart investing? Definitely.

2 million straight would absolutely be enough. 2 million dollars is ~ 1750000 euros. I'm 27 now, let's say I'll live for another 60 years until I'm 87. 1750000/60 is 29 166 and change. That's about 5000 more a year than I currently make working full time. And that's before pensions, investing (because you'd be insane not to invest some money in that situation), etc.


Indeed. And the only two other dangers (besides investment risk) are: inflation and a steep decline of the value of the euro (eg. through bankruptcy of the ECB).

The latter is quite hard to do. The former is a given, but anything below 3%/year ought to be manageable.
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Postby Jetan » Fri Jan 18, 2019 7:02 am

The blAAtschApen wrote:
Jetan wrote:2 million straight would absolutely be enough. 2 million dollars is ~ 1750000 euros. I'm 27 now, let's say I'll live for another 60 years until I'm 87. 1750000/60 is 29 166 and change. That's about 5000 more a year than I currently make working full time. And that's before pensions, investing (because you'd be insane not to invest some money in that situation), etc.


Indeed. And the only two other dangers (besides investment risk) are: inflation and a steep decline of the value of the euro (eg. through bankruptcy of the ECB).

The latter is quite hard to do. The former is a given, but anything below 3%/year ought to be manageable.

Exactly.
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