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Postby Duhon » Thu Jan 10, 2019 4:13 pm

This will be my last post in a while -- fell down stairs, neck and lower extremities in varying degrees of pain, left arm in cast, possible if as yet precisely undetermined cervical spine damage, stamina shot to hell for now. Anyway:

The Tarrant County Republicans in Texas will vote this week to remove their vice chairman because he is Muslim.

Republican Dorrie O’Brien is leading a group of colleagues in an attempt to unseat Shahid Shafi, a trauma surgeon in Forth Worth, the largest city in Tarrant County.

“We don’t think he’s suitable as a practicing Muslim to be vice chair because he’d be the representative for ALL Republicans in Tarrant County, and not ALL Republicans in Tarrant County think Islam is safe or acceptable in the U.S.,” O’Brien wrote in a Facebook post.

She added that there are questions surrounding Shafi’s political leanings and that she is confident her side has enough votes to remove him.

O’Brien also said that the desire to reconsider his appointment is not because of his religion, but instead because Shafi may be loyal to Islamic law or connected to “Islamic terror groups.”

Darl Easton, the GOP party chairman for the county who appointed Shafi, called the effort to remove him “disgusting.”

“It’s just outrageous that we are doing this,” Easton told the Star-Telegram.

Shafi came to the U.S. from Pakistan in 1990 before becoming a naturalized citizen in 2009. He was appointed by Easton to the serve as vice chairman last year and is a member of the Southlake City Council.

In an open letter from Shafi, he said concern from his party over him being a Muslim is rooted in fear.

"I can’t allow this small group of closed-minded people to damage our party that I’ve supported and served for several years,” he writes. “The call to remove me from the party of Lincoln and Reagan because of my religion is wrong for several reasons. First, discrimination based upon religion is illegal, immoral, unethical, un-American, and against the foundations of our country and the principles of our party.”

Reports of Shafi’s possible ousting has brought out several prominent Texas Republicans to defend him, including Sen. Ted Cruz and Texas Land Commissioner George P. Bush.

In her post, O’Brien said a compromise regarding Shafi’s position fell through. A vote by the county GOP board is reportedly scheduled for Thursday.


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Postby Upper Ireland » Thu Jan 10, 2019 4:27 pm

I think this is unfortunate, but mostly not surprising. I must admit that I was expecting a more rural county. Prejudice against muslims is the new red scare, although that isn't entirely gone.

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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Thu Jan 10, 2019 4:33 pm

I mean even if he wanted to (which I hope he would) he couldn't. There aren't enough Muslim Islamists in government to even do that, and even if there were enough that did do so, the US gov would come bearong down on them to re-instate kufr.
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Postby Western Vale Confederacy » Thu Jan 10, 2019 5:01 pm

If said Muslim rejects Sharia law, then is it really necessary to remove him or her?

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Postby The Greater Ohio Valley » Thu Jan 10, 2019 5:12 pm

Sounds like the Tarrant County GOP needs to do a more thorough reading of the Constitution.

And in the name of fairness, they’d also better be looking into the fundamentalists and evangelicals who believe in the Christian version of Shariah and remove/bar them from County positions too since there’s likely plenty of those in Texas government positions.
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Postby Wunderstrafanstalt » Thu Jan 10, 2019 5:16 pm

Let's just say, from personal experience, in the end the majority rules. But if a muslim joins the GOP, i would expect them to hold "republican values" and probably will not have plans to instate the Jizya "infidel tax" on the county or something. Removing a person based on their religion alone is just wrong.

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Postby Western Vale Confederacy » Thu Jan 10, 2019 5:17 pm

The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:Sounds like the Tarrant County GOP needs to do a more thorough reading of the Constitution.

And in the name of fairness, they’d also better be looking into the fundamentalists and evangelicals who believe in the Christian version of Shariah and remove/bar them from County positions too since there’s likely plenty of those in Texas government positions.


Anybody who believes that religious law is above secular law should be expunged from any position of power, and I couldn't give less of a damn about the religious in particular.

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Postby NeoOasis » Thu Jan 10, 2019 6:02 pm

More shades of stupidity from a minority group that holds way too much power. This isn't even subtle. This is an obvious and blatant disregard for the Constitution of the United States of America. To judge and act on someone's religion alone is not legal. To judge someone based on hearsay and fear is just fucking stupid. Then again... wasn't the afluenza kid from Tarrant County as well?

Maybe this isn't an issue of Republicans being uncomfortable with a Muslim in office, but rather the stupidity of officials from a certain county boiling over. The fact Ted Cruz is supporting Shahid Shafi should say it all.
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Postby US-SSR » Thu Jan 10, 2019 6:42 pm

NeoOasis wrote:More shades of stupidity from a minority group that holds way too much power. This isn't even subtle. This is an obvious and blatant disregard for the Constitution of the United States of America. To judge and act on someone's religion alone is not legal. To judge someone based on hearsay and fear is just fucking stupid. Then again... wasn't the afluenza kid from Tarrant County as well?

Maybe this isn't an issue of Republicans being uncomfortable with a Muslim in office, but rather the stupidity of officials from a certain county boiling over. The fact Ted Cruz is supporting Shahid Shafi should say it all.


To be fair, the Republican Party is a private organization and, nationally or in Tarrant County, is free to discriminate on the basis of religion or whatever else it wants to discriminate about. If the local, county, state or national GOP wants to make itself the party of undereducated white male racists, xenophobes and misogynists, I for one say go right ahead. Just spare me your snowflake tears when you go the way of the Whigs, the Know-Nothings and the Klan.
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Thu Jan 10, 2019 6:49 pm

Western Vale Confederacy wrote:If said Muslim rejects Sharia law, then is it really necessary to remove him or her?

From office or from being Muslim? Imo, yes to the former, and I lean "yes" to the latter but that depends on what they mean and if I'm correct.
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Postby Bombadil » Thu Jan 10, 2019 6:53 pm

US-SSR wrote:
NeoOasis wrote:More shades of stupidity from a minority group that holds way too much power. This isn't even subtle. This is an obvious and blatant disregard for the Constitution of the United States of America. To judge and act on someone's religion alone is not legal. To judge someone based on hearsay and fear is just fucking stupid. Then again... wasn't the afluenza kid from Tarrant County as well?

Maybe this isn't an issue of Republicans being uncomfortable with a Muslim in office, but rather the stupidity of officials from a certain county boiling over. The fact Ted Cruz is supporting Shahid Shafi should say it all.


To be fair, the Republican Party is a private organization and, nationally or in Tarrant County, is free to discriminate on the basis of religion or whatever else it wants to discriminate about. If the local, county, state or national GOP wants to make itself the party of undereducated white male racists, xenophobes and misogynists, I for one say go right ahead. Just spare me your snowflake tears when you go the way of the Whigs, the Know-Nothings and the Klan.


To be fair the main perpetrator here is a female - Dorrie O'Brien.. who seems to be a serious bigot. She believes radical islamists trick people into having drinks mingling muslims and christians for some nefarious reason.

By telephone, she said “unity” events are secretly promoted by radical Islamists.

She said coming over to share dinner and sing patriotic songs is “just one of their tricks.”


To some extent though I accept there's simply people like her around, what I don't accept is they have so much support.
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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Thu Jan 10, 2019 6:57 pm

Removing a party leader just because he is Muslim is an abhorrent thing to do, and I condemn this.
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Postby Major-Tom » Thu Jan 10, 2019 6:58 pm

Was reading between the lines of the OP, hoping to find a sliver of additional info behind this move, but nope. There isn't any.

Y'know what, hopefully the Vice Chairman realizes he's better off without the goons he keeps in his company. I am extremely displeased with the GOP on a daily basis - but I don't see why a Muslim can't be a Republican, and it's a stupid, shot in the foot move for the Tarrant County GOP to think otherwise.

Freaking idiots.

Also, feel better OP, and best of luck with your recovery.
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Postby Myrensis » Thu Jan 10, 2019 6:58 pm

The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:Sounds like the Tarrant County GOP needs to do a more thorough reading of the Constitution.

And in the name of fairness, they’d also better be looking into the fundamentalists and evangelicals who believe in the Christian version of Shariah and remove/bar them from County positions too since there’s likely plenty of those in Texas government positions.


It reminds me of Trumps prattling about having a questionnaire to make sure Muslim immigrants shared our American values on things like gay rights and women and secular government.

Still think we should institute it, but make conservative Evangelicals fill it out as well, and then we can make a national game show where based just on the answers people have to guess whether it's an Anti-American Jihadist who hates our freedoms, or a Christian conservative American patriot.

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US-SSR wrote:
To be fair, the Republican Party is a private organization and, nationally or in Tarrant County, is free to discriminate on the basis of religion or whatever else it wants to discriminate about. If the local, county, state or national GOP wants to make itself the party of undereducated white male racists, xenophobes and misogynists, I for one say go right ahead. Just spare me your snowflake tears when you go the way of the Whigs, the Know-Nothings and the Klan.


Until they do disappear, real serious damage can still be done. This is in no way good, and hopefully the rest of the Republicans in the county who disagree will make their voices heard.
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Postby US-SSR » Thu Jan 10, 2019 7:07 pm

NeoOasis wrote:
US-SSR wrote:
To be fair, the Republican Party is a private organization and, nationally or in Tarrant County, is free to discriminate on the basis of religion or whatever else it wants to discriminate about. If the local, county, state or national GOP wants to make itself the party of undereducated white male racists, xenophobes and misogynists, I for one say go right ahead. Just spare me your snowflake tears when you go the way of the Whigs, the Know-Nothings and the Klan.


Until they do disappear, real serious damage can still be done. This is in no way good, and hopefully the rest of the Republicans in the county who disagree will make their voices heard.


Yes, just like the cries of outrage we hear from them every time Individual-1 denegrates women, Muslims, veterans, minorities, immigrants, etc. etc., cries that sound awfully like the sound of crickets. Hopefully the rest of the Republicans in the country who disagree will follow the George Wills, Max Boots and the like and leave the party.
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Postby Heloin » Thu Jan 10, 2019 7:17 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:I mean even if he wanted to (which I hope he would) he couldn't. There aren't enough Muslim Islamists in government to even do that, and even if there were enough that did do so, the US gov would come bearong down on them to re-instate kufr.

You're going to be very disappointed to find out that the vast majority of Muslims aren't Islamists.

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Postby Western Vale Confederacy » Thu Jan 10, 2019 7:18 pm

Heloin wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:I mean even if he wanted to (which I hope he would) he couldn't. There aren't enough Muslim Islamists in government to even do that, and even if there were enough that did do so, the US gov would come bearong down on them to re-instate kufr.

You're going to be very disappointed to find out that the vast majority of Muslims aren't Islamists.


In most of the Western world, the vast majority of Muslims are moderates (albeit many of 'em still more conservative on average).

The Balkans are a decent example.

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Western Vale Confederacy wrote:
Heloin wrote:You're going to be very disappointed to find out that the vast majority of Muslims aren't Islamists.


In most of the Western world, the vast majority of Muslims are moderates (albeit many of 'em still more conservative on average).

The Balkans are a decent example.

>Moderate
Blatantly disobeying part of the Holy Qur'an isn't moderate. It's a minority view anyway, AlHamdulillah
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El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Western Vale Confederacy wrote:
In most of the Western world, the vast majority of Muslims are moderates (albeit many of 'em still more conservative on average).

The Balkans are a decent example.

>Moderate
Blatantly disobeying part of the Holy Qur'an isn't moderate. It's a minority view anyway, AlHamdulillah


The Balkans beg to fucking differ.

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Western Vale Confederacy wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:>Moderate
Blatantly disobeying part of the Holy Qur'an isn't moderate. It's a minority view anyway, AlHamdulillah


The Balkans beg to differ.

Differ on what?
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El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Western Vale Confederacy wrote:
The Balkans beg to differ.

Differ on what?


They are moderate Muslims that have almost entirely integrated themselves into Western customs and values, not to mention that they live alongside Catholic and Orthodox people without having this jizya boner of yours.

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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Thu Jan 10, 2019 7:44 pm

Western Vale Confederacy wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Differ on what?


They are moderate Muslims that have almost entirely integrated themselves into Western customs and values, not to mention that they live alongside Catholic and Orthodox people without having this jizya boner of yours.

This doesn't tell me anything on what they differ on.
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