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Ocean Master ("THE TIME FOR TALK IS OVER!")
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Aqua Man ("...perhapSH jay can be... eh-JOOH-gayted")
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Postby Ifreann » Fri Jan 11, 2019 9:32 am

Caracasus wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Hereditary monarchy.


So it's guillotine time then, that's what you're saying?

You might need to make it a hydraulic guillotine, Atlanteans are pretty tough.
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Postby Caracasus » Fri Jan 11, 2019 9:36 am

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So it's guillotine time then, that's what you're saying?

You might need to make it a hydraulic guillotine, Atlanteans are pretty tough.


Plus I guess underwater the blade would just sorta drift slowly downwards. It'd need to be one of those mechanical ones.
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Postby The New California Republic » Fri Jan 11, 2019 9:37 am

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Ifreann wrote:You might need to make it a hydraulic guillotine, Atlanteans are pretty tough.


Plus I guess underwater the blade would just sorta drift slowly downwards. It'd need to be one of those mechanical ones.

Just use a thermal vent as an execution method. Strap the Atlantean to a board and lower them into it.
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Fri Jan 11, 2019 9:49 am

Ifreann wrote:
Alvecia wrote:He probably things Superman and Batman are goofy as well then, I guess.

One would assume.


I mean, it IS kind of goofy.

BATMAN? Really, a guy dresses up as a bat and beats people up and throws bat-a-rangs and has a no kill code? :eyebrow:

Some of the Batman media I enjoy but the idea is inherently... well... kind of cheesy.

Superman is a dated design but take it as you will.

But I still think Aquaman is WHOLE NEW LEVEL
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Fri Jan 11, 2019 9:50 am

Eastfield Lodge wrote:So let me get this straight, Atlantis has super-duper technology that can wipe out the human race in warfare with minimal casualties to themselves, yet cannot seemingly reverse the damage humans are doing to the oceans?


yeah I guess

typical DC fare
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Postby Alvecia » Fri Jan 11, 2019 9:58 am

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Ifreann wrote:One would assume.


I mean, it IS kind of goofy.

BATMAN? Really, a guy dresses up as a bat and beats people up and throws bat-a-rangs and has a no kill code? :eyebrow:

Some of the Batman media I enjoy but the idea is inherently... well... kind of cheesy.

Superman is a dated design but take it as you will.

But I still think Aquaman is WHOLE NEW LEVEL

All superheroes are pretty goofy when looked at under a certain perspective. Modern iterations tend not to be. Aquaman, for example, is badass in the DCEU.
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Fri Jan 11, 2019 10:00 am

Alvecia wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
I mean, it IS kind of goofy.

BATMAN? Really, a guy dresses up as a bat and beats people up and throws bat-a-rangs and has a no kill code? :eyebrow:

Some of the Batman media I enjoy but the idea is inherently... well... kind of cheesy.

Superman is a dated design but take it as you will.

But I still think Aquaman is WHOLE NEW LEVEL

All superheroes are pretty goofy when looked at under a certain perspective. Modern iterations tend not to be. Aquaman, for example, is badass in the DCEU.


I feel like Marvel's crowd is generally less cheesy.

Captain America's about the worst offender but everyone else is fine. I don't even have a problem with Thor.
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Postby Alvecia » Fri Jan 11, 2019 10:02 am

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Alvecia wrote:All superheroes are pretty goofy when looked at under a certain perspective. Modern iterations tend not to be. Aquaman, for example, is badass in the DCEU.


I feel like Marvel's crowd is generally less cheesy.

Captain America's about the worst offender but everyone else is fine. I don't even have a problem with Thor.

Spiderman and Ironman definitely were on their initial release. I think you should consider that it's just the older art style you have an issue with.
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Fri Jan 11, 2019 10:05 am

Alvecia wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
I feel like Marvel's crowd is generally less cheesy.

Captain America's about the worst offender but everyone else is fine. I don't even have a problem with Thor.

Spiderman and Ironman definitely were on their initial release. I think you should consider that it's just the older art style you have an issue with.


that might indeed be the issue
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Postby Sperio » Fri Jan 11, 2019 11:14 am

Here’s what I think, we make contact, use aquama’s method, but if they turn on us, we use King Orm’s plan
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Postby Dogmeat » Fri Jan 11, 2019 11:34 am

Both the Surface Dwellers and the Aquas must be purged.

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Postby New haven america » Fri Jan 11, 2019 5:15 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Alvecia wrote:The history of DC Comics Atlantis is actually wacky as fuck
Stupid wiki urls


I have no idea who thought this would make a good comic

"Hey guys, let's start a comic where Atlantis is real and you have this superhero who can talk to fish. Let's call him AQUA MAN!"

Like did it NOT seem cheesy back then or?

For fucks sake, Aquaman doesn't talk to fish. That jokes ~40 years old and still ain't funny.

He has telepathy that allows him to command any living thing he wants. Humans, aliens, sea life, terrestrial life, etc...
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Postby New haven america » Fri Jan 11, 2019 5:18 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Alvecia wrote:While there's no direct canon answer for this, it's generally accepted that Atlaneans live longer than humans. Number range from anywhere from 200 - 500 from what I've found.

I think IM means that the character is goofy because he was created in the 40s, as opposed to some gritty 90s Leifield character.

While Batman and Superman were created in the 30's.

Yeah.
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Postby New haven america » Fri Jan 11, 2019 5:20 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Alvecia wrote:All superheroes are pretty goofy when looked at under a certain perspective. Modern iterations tend not to be. Aquaman, for example, is badass in the DCEU.


I feel like Marvel's crowd is generally less cheesy.

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

For most of comic history Marvel was generaly considered both cheesier and less mature than DC. Like how Ironman basically ran around in a giant piece of metal, or how Spider-Man wasn't even a man for the first decade or so of his series' run, or how Hawkeye is just bloody ridiculous in the comics.
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Fri Jan 11, 2019 7:29 pm

New haven america wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
I feel like Marvel's crowd is generally less cheesy.

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

For most of comic history Marvel was generaly considered both cheesier and less mature than DC. Like how Ironman basically ran around in a giant piece of metal, or how Spider-Man wasn't even a man for the first decade or so of his series' run, or how Hawkeye is just bloody ridiculous in the comics.


Many of the DC characters just look really outdated and extremely cheesy.

Hawk Girl, Wonder Woman, Aquaman are probably the worst offenders.

Batman is pretty bad too but he gets a bit of a pass because I enjoy some of the darker edgier stuff he appears in.

...

I don’t know. I’m just fine with Marvel character design. I had reservations about Captain America but they managed to make him look really cool in the movies. Chris Evans looks like a boss and I like what they did with his costume in the latest Infinity Wars movie.

Call it a bias if you will

When the Avengers come together I don’t bat an eye. But I have a very hard time taking most of the DC cast seriously and when they appear together on screen it gets worse possibly.
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Fri Jan 11, 2019 7:31 pm

Sperio wrote:Here’s what I think, we make contact, use aquama’s method, but if they turn on us, we use King Orm’s plan


Ok
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Postby Cetacea » Sat Jan 12, 2019 1:01 am

Infected Mushroom wrote:But let's be real here... this scenario is inherently a bit too ridiculous

AQUA MAN??????? OCEAN MASTER?

The former sounds like a tooth paste (Aquafresh anyone?). And Ocean Master? Is that a rock band? These characters are OLD and honestly, quite cheesy, and even in the names it shows.


The title Genghis Khan means "Oceanic Ruler", so the Atlanteans using a similar title for their High King doesn't seem so weird really


Infected Mushroom wrote:
New haven america wrote: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

For most of comic history Marvel was generaly considered both cheesier and less mature than DC. Like how Ironman basically ran around in a giant piece of metal, or how Spider-Man wasn't even a man for the first decade or so of his series' run, or how Hawkeye is just bloody ridiculous in the comics.


Many of the DC characters just look really outdated and extremely cheesy.

Hawk Girl, Wonder Woman, Aquaman are probably the worst offenders.

Batman is pretty bad too but he gets a bit of a pass because I enjoy some of the darker edgier stuff he appears in.

...

I don’t know. I’m just fine with Marvel character design. I had reservations about Captain America but they managed to make him look really cool in the movies. Chris Evans looks like a boss and I like what they did with his costume in the latest Infinity Wars movie.

Call it a bias if you will

When the Avengers come together I don’t bat an eye. But I have a very hard time taking most of the DC cast seriously and when they appear together on screen it gets worse possibly.


DC has always had the issue that their characters are all essentially gods, Supermen who are so powerful that nother but other Supers can challenge them - the whole popularity of Batman is based on the fact that he is the one Human who can stand against the gods and defeat them through wit and tenacity. When DC first published they were essentially creating a new mythology for 20th Century America and hence we get all the Christ imagery with Superman, and the characters of Wonder Woman and Aquaman being directly derived from Greek myth.

on the other hand, Marvel as a product of the 60s had the luxury of being a bit more iconoclasmic in their approach and thus in the main they forgo godly powers and instead their characters are enhanced humans with all the weaknesses and foibles of normal people, who rise above their limitations to become Heroes.

In the end though its all fantasy and wish fulfillment and equally both ridiculous and awesome
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Sat Jan 12, 2019 1:08 am

Cetacea wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:But let's be real here... this scenario is inherently a bit too ridiculous

AQUA MAN??????? OCEAN MASTER?

The former sounds like a tooth paste (Aquafresh anyone?). And Ocean Master? Is that a rock band? These characters are OLD and honestly, quite cheesy, and even in the names it shows.


The title Genghis Khan means "Oceanic Ruler", so the Atlanteans using a similar title for their High King doesn't seem so weird really


Infected Mushroom wrote:
Many of the DC characters just look really outdated and extremely cheesy.

Hawk Girl, Wonder Woman, Aquaman are probably the worst offenders.

Batman is pretty bad too but he gets a bit of a pass because I enjoy some of the darker edgier stuff he appears in.

...

I don’t know. I’m just fine with Marvel character design. I had reservations about Captain America but they managed to make him look really cool in the movies. Chris Evans looks like a boss and I like what they did with his costume in the latest Infinity Wars movie.

Call it a bias if you will

When the Avengers come together I don’t bat an eye. But I have a very hard time taking most of the DC cast seriously and when they appear together on screen it gets worse possibly.


DC has always had the issue that their characters are all essentially gods, Supermen who are so powerful that nother but other Supers can challenge them - the whole popularity of Batman is based on the fact that he is the one Human who can stand against the gods and defeat them through wit and tenacity. When DC first published they were essentially creating a new mythology for 20th Century America and hence we get all the Christ imagery with Superman, and the characters of Wonder Woman and Aquaman being directly derived from Greek myth.

on the other hand, Marvel as a product of the 60s had the luxury of being a bit more iconoclasmic in their approach and thus in the main they forgo godly powers and instead their characters are enhanced humans with all the weaknesses and foibles of normal people, who rise above their limitations to become Heroes.

In the end though its all fantasy and wish fulfillment and equally both ridiculous and awesome


Okay this makes sense but...

who came up with the Hawk Girl idea? Like HOW does it not look 100% ridiculous? Like if you Google it, IT LOOKS SO BAD holy...

Also... Wonder Woman blocking bullets with steel bracelets is borderline one of the most ridiculous things I've ever seen (and I've seen some stunts in anime that require suspension of disbelief but blocking bullets with two steel bracelets on the arm has got to be one of the top 10)
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Postby Publica » Sat Jan 12, 2019 2:42 am

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Cetacea wrote:
The title Genghis Khan means "Oceanic Ruler", so the Atlanteans using a similar title for their High King doesn't seem so weird really




DC has always had the issue that their characters are all essentially gods, Supermen who are so powerful that nother but other Supers can challenge them - the whole popularity of Batman is based on the fact that he is the one Human who can stand against the gods and defeat them through wit and tenacity. When DC first published they were essentially creating a new mythology for 20th Century America and hence we get all the Christ imagery with Superman, and the characters of Wonder Woman and Aquaman being directly derived from Greek myth.

on the other hand, Marvel as a product of the 60s had the luxury of being a bit more iconoclasmic in their approach and thus in the main they forgo godly powers and instead their characters are enhanced humans with all the weaknesses and foibles of normal people, who rise above their limitations to become Heroes.

In the end though its all fantasy and wish fulfillment and equally both ridiculous and awesome


Okay this makes sense but...

who came up with the Hawk Girl idea? Like HOW does it not look 100% ridiculous? Like if you Google it, IT LOOKS SO BAD holy...

Also... Wonder Woman blocking bullets with steel bracelets is borderline one of the most ridiculous things I've ever seen (and I've seen some stunts in anime that require suspension of disbelief but blocking bullets with two steel bracelets on the arm has got to be one of the top 10)


I mean, they're supposed to be indestructible bracers forged by a god, not just regular steel.
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Sat Jan 12, 2019 4:18 am

Publica wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
Okay this makes sense but...

who came up with the Hawk Girl idea? Like HOW does it not look 100% ridiculous? Like if you Google it, IT LOOKS SO BAD holy...

Also... Wonder Woman blocking bullets with steel bracelets is borderline one of the most ridiculous things I've ever seen (and I've seen some stunts in anime that require suspension of disbelief but blocking bullets with two steel bracelets on the arm has got to be one of the top 10)


I mean, they're supposed to be indestructible bracers forged by a god, not just regular steel.


But the blocking movement just LOOKS so ridiculous

It still makes no sense that she has to try to block the bullets with the steel though because isn’t she bulletproof like Aqua Man and Superman?

I’m fairly sure she’s taken direct hits from alien lasers and still lived so why wouldn’t she just shrug off small arms fire?

You’re telling me she can fist fight mind controlled Superman semi decently, take damage from him and live....

But guns scare her so she bothers to block?
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Postby Ifreann » Sat Jan 12, 2019 7:57 am

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Publica wrote:
I mean, they're supposed to be indestructible bracers forged by a god, not just regular steel.


But the blocking movement just LOOKS so ridiculous

It still makes no sense that she has to try to block the bullets with the steelthough because isn’t she bulletproof like Aqua Man and Superman?

No, she isn't.

I’m fairly sure she’s taken direct hits from alien lasers and still lived so why wouldn’t she just shrug off small arms fire?

Lasers are bullets are different things and injure in different ways.

You’re telling me she can fist fight mind controlled Superman semi decently, take damage from him and live....

But guns scare her so she bothers to block?

Being strong and fast is different from being bulletproof. Being punched, even by Superman, is different from being shot.
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Postby The Grims » Sat Jan 12, 2019 8:06 am

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Publica wrote:
I mean, they're supposed to be indestructible bracers forged by a god, not just regular steel.


But the blocking movement just LOOKS so ridiculous

It still makes no sense that she has to try to block the bullets with the steel though because isn’t she bulletproof like Aqua Man and Superman?

I’m fairly sure she’s taken direct hits from alien lasers and still lived so why wouldn’t she just shrug off small arms fire?

You’re telling me she can fist fight mind controlled Superman semi decently, take damage from him and live....

But guns scare her so she bothers to block?


Metal is her kryptonite ;)

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Postby Infected Mushroom » Sat Jan 12, 2019 8:12 am

Ifreann wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
But the blocking movement just LOOKS so ridiculous

It still makes no sense that she has to try to block the bullets with the steelthough because isn’t she bulletproof like Aqua Man and Superman?

No, she isn't.

I’m fairly sure she’s taken direct hits from alien lasers and still lived so why wouldn’t she just shrug off small arms fire?

Lasers are bullets are different things and injure in different ways.

You’re telling me she can fist fight mind controlled Superman semi decently, take damage from him and live....

But guns scare her so she bothers to block?

Being strong and fast is different from being bulletproof. Being punched, even by Superman, is different from being shot.


the more you explain it, the more ridiculous this character gets/sounds
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Postby Publica » Sat Jan 12, 2019 8:21 am

I mean, she has a very unusual creation. Look it up, it's really weird.
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And used to do so on roller-skates...

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