Denver and New York State Bans Conversion Therapy

[Neutraligon]

Conversion Therapy is a meme, but I think that it shouldn't be banned because I believe that if some crazy person really, really wants to "convert" from Homosexuality by their own free will then the government shouldn't be there to stop them.

And children?

I don't think that conversion therapy should be illegal for consenting adults, but I also think that it should be illegal to advertise it as a "cure" for or to "treat homosexuality. Any licensed psychologist or psychiatrist who provides it should lose their license.

[Adad Civilization]

Conversion Therapy is a meme, but I think that it shouldn't be banned because I believe that if some crazy person really, really wants to "convert" from Homosexuality by their own free will then the government shouldn't be there to stop them.

Children do not have a choice in the matter.

That's why I said, "By their own free will." Adults can only legally consent to medical stuff like this and thus this should be banned for minors... but for fully grown, mentally capable, adults I see no reason why it should be banned.

[Sicaris]

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[San Lumen]

Children do not have a choice in the matter.

That's why I said, "By their own free will." Adults can only legally consent to medical stuff like this and thus this should be banned for minors... but for fully grown, mentally capable, adults I see no reason why it should be banned.

And I believe all the bans have outlawed it specifically for children. If an adult wants to be defrauded that is their choice but conversion therapy is mostly practiced on children

[Des-Bal]

And children?

I don't think that conversion therapy should be illegal for consenting adults, but I also think that it should be illegal to advertise it as a "cure" for or to "treat homosexuality. Any licensed psychologist or psychiatrist who provides it should lose their license.

I don't think that it needs special rules, it should be handled in precisely the same way as other quackery.

[Crockerland]

Children do not have a choice in the matter.

That's why I said, "By their own free will." Adults can only legally consent to medical stuff like this and thus this should be banned for minors... but for fully grown, mentally capable, adults I see no reason why it should be banned.

I see people say this on every conversion therapy thread but I don't think I've ever seen anyone say they want conversion therapy for consenting adults to be banned.

[Neutraligon]

And children?

I don't think that conversion therapy should be illegal for consenting adults, but I also think that it should be illegal to advertise it as a "cure" for or to "treat homosexuality. Any licensed psychologist or psychiatrist who provides it should lose their license.

I don't think that it needs special rules, it should be handled in precisely the same way as other quackery.

Which I feel should be the same, any relevant doctor who pushes said quackery should lose their license and it people should not be allowed to advertise it as a treatment or cure. If you note, not being allowed to call it a treatment or cure is exactly how things like homeopathy or supplements are treated.

[Des-Bal]

Which I feel should be the same, any relevant doctor who pushes said quackery should lose their license and it people should not be allowed to advertise it as a treatment or cure. If you note, not being allowed to call it a treatment or cure is exactly how things like homeopathy or supplements are treated.

Total agreement. I will note however that potentially dangerous and definitely ineffective alternative treatments are regularly given to children.

[Neutraligon]

Which I feel should be the same, any relevant doctor who pushes said quackery should lose their license and it people should not be allowed to advertise it as a treatment or cure. If you note, not being allowed to call it a treatment or cure is exactly how things like homeopathy or supplements are treated.

Total agreement. I will note however that potentially dangerous and definitely ineffective alternative treatments are regularly given to children.

Like what?

[Des-Bal]

Like what?

Chiropractic adjustment has injured, paralyzed, and killed people in the pursuit of fixing imaginary problems. I was going to post one of the many videos of newborn babies having their spines manipulated by people who call themselves doctor without the sense of decency to burst into flame but then I got sad and I stopped.

[Novus America]

Total agreement. I will note however that potentially dangerous and definitely ineffective alternative treatments are regularly given to children.

Like what?

A lot of “Traditional Chinese Medicine” too.
Which is basically all quackery at best, and often outright dangerous.

[Neutraligon]

Like what?

Chiropractic adjustment has injured, paralyzed, and killed people in the pursuit of fixing imaginary problems. I was going to post one of the many videos of newborn babies having their spines manipulated by people who call themselves doctor without the sense of decency to burst into flame but then I got sad and I stopped.

Yeah that should be illegal.